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Does the Wwe have an obligation to wrestling?

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Guest RavishingRickRudo

Well, does it?

 

The Wwe are the only show in town, so while they are still successful, should they use that success to help further some other, lesser-known, promotions?

 

Imagine the success a promotion would have being advertised on WWe TV-They wouldn't draw in 10 000 people - but attendance would at least be doubled.

 

The Wwf could have a marquee match from (insert Indy fed here), or they could dedicate a whole PPV (independent of it's regular ones of course) to Indy feds around the country - allowing for wrestler's and promotions to showcase their talent under the Wwe’s production values and marketing machine.

 

I know, I know, it's a selfless thing to do - and Vince McMahon is not a selfless man. But the long-term benefit is immeasurable. The Independent scene needs a boost like this as there are many skilful workers out there who are not seeing the light of day and many promotions which are getting written off by the vast majority of the public because ‘It’s not the Wwe’. With a thriving Indy scene, the industry would pick up as a ’grassroots’ (for lack of a better term) interest in wrestling could maybe develop (sure, it’s a long shot, but it wouldn’t hurt the Wwe one bit to try). A healthy Indy scene not only provides for new -and more experienced- talent, but allows for wrestlers who get fired, or are ‘past their time’ to earn a living.

 

I can't see of any negative effects this would have on the Wwe or the wrestling industry - sadly however, it will probably never happen.

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I can't see of any negative effects this would have on the Wwe or the wrestling industry - sadly however, it will probably never happen.

That pretty much says it all.

 

Although I remember someone back on the old TheSmarks.com site put up an article once called "The State of Wrestling Address" that mentioned that all those days of WCW overpaying anyone within ten feet of them has resulted in a massive pool of wrestlers who are demanding far more money than they're really worth.

 

WWE doesn't want them, Indy promotions can't afford them. You get the picture.

 

I'd rather the Indy scene stay at it's current low-income bush league level until these guys are willing to lower their expectations before anything like you describe happens.

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Guest razazteca

I think that the NWA TNA is the company that uses the indy talent to the fullest pontential. Especially with the X Division, even though several of the guys did work in the NWA Wildside promotion

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Should the Wwf, with their power, have an obligation to promote Indepenent wrestling?

 

This is sorta like a 'Should the USA help out poor countries' but in a wrestling sense.

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Guest Rob Edwards

Well it would help long term but I'm sure Vince would see it as financing competition. Then again he did help ECW out a few times so he might help out a smaller scale promotion such as Ring Of Honour if we're lucky

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Guest cobainwasmurdered

No, the WWE has no obligation to Indy Wrestling.

 

Would it be nice if they did that? Yes. But they have no obligation to anyone.

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Guest kkktookmybabyaway

It would be like the Yankees giving the Royals more revenue sharing than they are required to...

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Guest MrRant
Should the Wwf, with their power, have an obligation to promote Indepenent wrestling?

 

This is sorta like a 'Should the USA help out poor countries' but in a wrestling sense.

Damn liberal smart marks.

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Should the Wwf, with their power, have an obligation to promote Indepenent wrestling?

 

This is sorta like a 'Should the USA help out poor countries' but in a wrestling sense.

Damn liberal smart marks.

Who would have thought egalitarian beliefs would be found in pro-wrestling talk? I don't think the WWE has any obligation to the Indy feds right now. As it is, the WWE is talent starved. When your top face is currently the Undertaker, something is seriously wrong. Vince and Company need to find a way to make new stars ( at the least 6 more main eventers) so they can make the split work or bring the company back to some stability.

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Guest RavishingRickRudo

..WWE is talent starved?

 

I think they do have a responsibility to the independent scene. Sure, not a legally binding responsibility, but in some moral way (if morals can even apply to wrestling..damn carnies) Vince should help further the industry he killed.

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Should the Wwf, with their power, have an obligation to promote Indepenent wrestling?

 

This is sorta like a 'Should the USA help out poor countries' but in a wrestling sense.

There's a diference. The current WWE guys aren't going to be there forever. Eventually, they'll need talent from *somewhere*, as WWE guys get too old/retire/get fired/etc.

 

When US citizens die, we don't need people from foreign countries to come in to take their place.

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Guest MarvinisaLunatic

Should Vince ever start a wrestling channel, I think youd see him have OVW on it, but he'd still have to get a few other indy feds on board as well.

 

Thats about the only way I see Vince partnering up with any Indy feds.

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Guest cobainwasmurdered

Vince would never partner with another fed even if it would benefit him, his ego wouldn't let him.

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Guest RavishingRickRudo

There's a diference. The current WWE guys aren't going to be there forever. Eventually, they'll need talent from *somewhere*, as WWE guys get too old/retire/get fired/etc.

 

When US citizens die, we don't need people from foreign countries to come in to take their place.

 

Well I was just thinkin the US philosophy of 'Fuck em, we're the US of A and whatever happens there doesn't effect us here.' and 'what's better for the whole is better for the parts' sorta carries over to the Wwf and the indy scene.

 

If the rest of the world dies as the US just laughs it up, then when the US does die then no one will be left. When the Wwf dies the industry is screwed and there is no chance at coming back.

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There's a diference. The current WWE guys aren't going to be there forever. Eventually, they'll need talent from *somewhere*, as WWE guys get too old/retire/get fired/etc.

 

When US citizens die, we don't need people from foreign countries to come in to take their place.

 

Well I was just thinkin the US philosophy of 'Fuck em, we're the US of A and whatever happens there doesn't effect us here.' and 'what's better for the whole is better for the parts' sorta carries over to the Wwf and the indy scene.

 

If the rest of the world dies as the US just laughs it up, then when the US does die then no one will be left. When the Wwf dies the industry is screwed and there is no chance at coming back.

You see though there's a reason Indy feds are Indy feds because the talent sucks. No amount of money, funds and support will make a fed based around stars like Batista and Bull Buchanan highly marketable. There's a big reason why NWA:TNA is the way it is and the WWE is the way it is. There's this weird misconception by the internet community that, just because something is independent, it's a lost treasure. The WWE is rich because it has the best talent, the best promo men and the best writers around. Not because it's rich, it's the talent and the creative staff that made it rich.

 

Belive me, I'd love to see another promotion on TV, but if it's an inferior product, it will fail.

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You see though there's a reason Indy feds are Indy feds because the talent sucks.

 

How near-sighted; "If it isn't known it must be because it sucks".

 

No amount of money, funds and support will make a fed based around stars like Batista and Bull Buchanan highly marketable.

 

Um, ok - so what's the Wwf trying to do now? Do you even watch Indy wrestling? Because if you impression of Indy wrestlers are guys like Bull and Batista - then you are mistaken.

 

There's a big reason why NWA:TNA is the way it is and the WWE is the way it is.

 

Yeah, Money, Exposure, Talent, the fact that they've entered the market in a 'down' period, the Wwf telling fans that 'if it's not WWE then it's not good' (case in point - you), advertising - there are many reasons why TNA and WWF are different.

 

There's this weird misconception by the internet community that, just because something is independent, it's a lost treasure.

 

And theres this misconception among non-interent fans that if they don't know it, it sucks. The whole point of the Wwf helping out the indy scene is to expose fans to something new and fresh - to give it a chance.

 

The WWE is rich because it has the best talent, the best promo men and the best writers around. Not because it's rich, it's the talent and the creative staff that made it rich.

 

Ok...so take away the money and leave the talent and creative and the Wwf is? Nothing. Money and exposure is just as important as talent - because talent won't be known if they aren't shown.

 

Belive me, I'd love to see another promotion on TV, but if it's an inferior product, it will fail.

 

I am not talking about competing with the Wwf - I am talking about Indy feds getting exposure on Wwf television - BIG DIFFERENCE. If an Indy promotion currently getting 200 people per show can get 200 more just by being on Wwf television - and are able to keep those 200 fans that means the Industry as a whole can benefit and thrive.

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