Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 23, 2002 No, It's not how Brock was treated, because I kind of enjoyed that. In fact, once I put it out of my mind that the match blew monkey shit, I really liked it .My favorite part was when Brock hit Taker and Taker said "ow" fixed his pants and kept going. No, what annoys me is that Angle/Benoit apparently had the match of the year (I missed most of it, I wasn't going to miss the Sopranos for this shit.) and yet they are still both heels, and STILL in a no where program. Some damn incentive to have a good match. Meanwhile, Taker and Brock stunk the ring up, and they get another main event. There is something REALLY fucked up there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted September 23, 2002 Ya know, we can bitch and bitch and bitch, but its never ever gonna get changed. Maybe we should accept the fact that its WWE. They have their ways, and bah god, you'll like them because they are the only deal in town. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Next Big Jew, Paul Heyman Report post Posted September 23, 2002 Well, Taker and Brock are hosses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nikowwf Report post Posted September 23, 2002 You talk about Angle going nowhere, but you laugh they are killing the title. When Angle wins the title, it would be nice if it wasn't a dead belt, don't you think? i think an Angle / Benoit rematch should be a MAJOR focus of Smackdown for the next few weeks. Focus on a 4/5 star freaking match instead of the billion dollar b*tch. Niko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 23, 2002 You talk about Angle going nowhere, but you laugh they are killing the title I find it funny. If ANYONE deserves this non-push, it's Brock. Angle didn't deserve it, he EARNED the belt. Ditto for Jericho. Brock got the belt because he's big. And I really could care less that they are booking him to look like shit.They made their bed with the useless wonder, now they can lie in it. When Angle wins the title, it would be nice if it wasn't a dead belt, don't you think? Oh, when the fuck do you think he's winning the belt? He's been the most over heel all year, and yet they refuse to give it to him. I hope Angle jumps to the Olympics in December and gets the hell out of this hellhole. i think an Angle / Benoit rematch should be a MAJOR focus of Smackdown for the next few weeks. Of course, it wasn't important enough to go on after this Lesbian nonsense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nikowwf Report post Posted September 23, 2002 I think that no matter how f*ed up things are, that they HAVE to go back to Angle being the champ at some point because he is point blank the most talented person in the company. When they get there, I'd like it to be possible for Angle to do well in that spot, rather than flounder again as champ because he was set up to fail. Once I get to the point where I am too cynical to believe that it will ever improve Ill just stop watching cause it wont be any fun anymore. And i agree with you that its criminal that the lesbian nonsense went on after them, and probably got more time than there match did. Niko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 23, 2002 I think that no matter how f*ed up things are, that they HAVE to go back to Angle being the champ at some point because he is point blank the most talented person in the company. Hey, they also said that they would eventually give the title back to Kane. Hasn't happened. And Undertaker. Took three years. For whatever reason (I have my theories) they REFUSE to give Angle the belt. It's plain stupid, and it's ruining the company. The ideal time to give him the belt was like last month, to set up a long dominant reign withtthe belt so RVD could beat him at Mania. Unfortunately, BROCK had to get the belt (and suck) for whatever reason, and Angle has been moved to time filler feuds. I've lost all faith in this company. I couldn't even watch a three hour PPV last night without flipping around. Someone needs to beat vince with a golf club and take over. And no, not Stephanie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted September 23, 2002 Putting the lesbo stuff on after the Angle/Benoit match was a good move. I mean, Taker/Lesnar was ok, especially after seeing that retarded HLA segment. It would have been a major letdown, and made Brock look even worse, if they had put them out there right after Angle and Benoit put on a clinic. Why do you think the women's match at WM X8 was second from the top? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 23, 2002 Putting the lesbo stuff on after the Angle/Benoit match was a good move. I mean, Taker/Lesnar was ok, especially after seeing that retarded HLA segment. It would have been a major letdown, and made Brock look even worse, if they had put them out there right after Angle and Benoit put on a clinic. Why do you think the women's match at WM X8 was second from the top? Well, as long as it's all for the greater good of sacrificing everyone for Brock... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Human Fly Report post Posted September 23, 2002 Well, as long as it's all for the greater good of sacrificing everyone for Brock... Except the Undertaker. That young up and comer has got too much of a future to be jobbing. Brock can't even be allowed to get any kind of advantage on him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted September 23, 2002 It doesn't do anyone any good to make Brock look bad (which is pretty much what they did last night, anyway). Whether you like it or not, he's the champion, and his match would have been even more of a letdown than it was (even though I enjoyed the match) had they put it on right after Angle/Benoit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted September 23, 2002 Finally SOMEBODY Is not on the Oh Lets Bash the Taker Bandwagon, its ironic that the same people who believe Brock didn't deserve the title push somehow comes and defends him when the Big Bad Evil Horrible Bastard the Undertaker Doesn't Treat Brock like Brock was Goldberg and he was Hugh Morris... Thank ya Anglesault. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 23, 2002 Well, as long as it's all for the greater good of sacrificing everyone for Brock... Except the Undertaker. That young up and comer has got too much of a future to be jobbing. Brock can't even be allowed to get any kind of advantage on him. Oh, come on, that was FUNNY! Or maybe you have to be a biter close-minded Brock hater to have liked it.... It doesn't do anyone any good to make Brock look bad (which is pretty much what they did last night, anyway). Whether you like it or not, he's the champion, and his match would have been even more of a letdown than it was (even though I enjoyed the match) had they put it on right after Angle/Benoit. Then tell the boring, plodding, useless fuck to step it up a notch, stop laying down for the whole match, and put on a decent match. Then maybe the whole card doesn't have to be fucked up to help him. This is approaching "Don't put on a better match than Hogan" levels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 23, 2002 Finally SOMEBODY Is not on the Oh Lets Bash the Taker Bandwagon, its ironic that the same people who believe Brock didn't deserve the title push somehow comes and defends him when the Big Bad Evil Horrible Bastard the Undertaker Doesn't Treat Brock like Brock was Goldberg and he was Hugh Morris... Thank ya Anglesault. That's my point exactly. He did nothing to earn the title, and he's done nothing to deserve a good reign. In fact, if Angle and Jericho got what they did after earning reigns, Brock should be booked worse than them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Human Fly Report post Posted September 23, 2002 Oh, come on, that was FUNNY! Or maybe you have to be a biter close-minded Brock hater to have liked it It is funny. Especially considering that they gave Brock overwhelming clean victories over younger guys that were more viable Main Eventers then Brock was. But when he comes up against 'Taker who is winding down his career they book him to look like a chump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted September 23, 2002 Angle and Jericho, and Benoit, Even Guerrero for that matter should have been in top tier position by now. they keep throwing them in these stupid matches, Angle vs Rey, Jericho vs Flair parts 1 and 2. Edge vs Guerrero parts 1 and 2 I believe that the only reason people like Angle, Benoit, Jericho got the Main event spots in 2000 ppvs was not because of their superior abilities, but because Austin was out and Rock was hardly there, and HHH had to feud with somebody. its getting to be irritating. Angle had starting building up a feud with Brock two months ago, and now who can remember them almost going at it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Human Fly Report post Posted September 23, 2002 Angle and Jericho, and Benoit, Even Guerrero for that matter should have been in top tier position by now. they keep throwing them in these stupid matches, Angle vs Rey, Jericho vs Flair parts 1 and 2. Edge vs Guerrero parts 1 and 2 I believe that the only reason people like Angle, Benoit, Jericho got the Main event spots in 2000 ppvs was not because of their superior abilities, but because Austin was out and Rock was hardly there, and HHH had to feud with somebody. its getting to be irritating. Angle had starting building up a feud with Brock two months ago, and now who can remember them almost going at it? Those guys are over too. Brock might be getting somewhat over now, but who wouldn't with the kind of push that he's gotten? It also doesn't hurt that he's on SD now and they can pump in a little extra crowd reaction for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 23, 2002 Angle and Jericho, and Benoit, Even Guerrero for that matter should have been in top tier position by now. they keep throwing them in these stupid matches, Angle vs Rey, Jericho vs Flair parts 1 and 2. Edge vs Guerrero parts 1 and 2 I believe that the only reason people like Angle, Benoit, Jericho got the Main event spots in 2000 ppvs was not because of their superior abilities, but because Austin was out and Rock was hardly there, and HHH had to feud with somebody. its getting to be irritating. Angle had starting building up a feud with Brock two months ago, and now who can remember them almost going at it? Those guys are over too. Brock might be getting somewhat over now, but who wouldn't with the kind of push that he's gotten? It also doesn't hurt that he's on SD now and they can pump in a little extra crowd reaction for him. But they're SMALL and Brock is BIG, so guess who gets the belt? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted September 24, 2002 Eddie's performance outdid Benoit and Angle. And where the fuck is Eddie? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 24, 2002 Looks like more Edge for Eddy. I'm telling you, he killed Linda McMahon and is getting punished. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest snowfan Report post Posted September 24, 2002 No, It's not how Brock was treated, because I kind of enjoyed that. In fact, once I put it out of my mind that the match blew monkey shit, I really liked it .My favorite part was when Brock hit Taker and Taker said "ow" fixed his pants and kept going. No, what annoys me is that Angle/Benoit apparently had the match of the year (I missed most of it, I wasn't going to miss the Sopranos for this shit.) and yet they are still both heels, and STILL in a no where program. Some damn incentive to have a good match. Meanwhile, Taker and Brock stunk the ring up, and they get another main event. There is something REALLY fucked up there. The bookers didn't let me down. They managed to have a MotY candidate between two great workers 2/3ds of the trinity and they didn't turn either one or advance them at all in storylines. Par for the course. Thank God they took the time to protect those young up and comers HGH and UT though. Good job Steph. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted September 24, 2002 They would have had a MOTYC except for the brawling segment Angle did for basically no reason. I still go by the fact that after a second viewing, Edge and Eddie despite not being as athletic a match or difficult, was just as good if not better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 24, 2002 They would have had a MOTYC except for the brawling segment Angle did for basically no reason. I still go by the fact that after a second viewing, Edge and Eddie despite not being as athletic a match or difficult, was just as good if not better. I missed a good deal of Angle/Benoit (poor Adrianna ) but I saw all of Eddy/Edge. I missed the brawling in Benoit/Angle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted September 24, 2002 you can give it to Edge and Eddy's match for Having a Great Sequence of Ring Psychology. Edge's "concussion" and Eddy going after his head, then working him when he was down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted September 24, 2002 The other thing I sort of didn't like about Benoit/Angle was the no selling German's of Doom. Even though it was a cool sequence. I just think Eddie/Edge was just all-around more solid, but I can't really decide which is better, so they're both like ***3/4, or something like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nikowwf Report post Posted September 24, 2002 I think Brock should be pushed all year for the sole benefit of getting someone over as a super face, and that someone should be Angle. WIth the mess the booking is, the last thing Angle needs is to become champion now so they have a scapegoat for the bad ratings. Do you really think for one second they wouldnt blame him? Niko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alfdogg Report post Posted September 24, 2002 Ya know, we can bitch and bitch and bitch, but its never ever gonna get changed. Maybe we should accept the fact that its WWE. They have their ways, and bah god, you'll like them because they are the only deal in town. Best Post Ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted September 24, 2002 acceptance, of the WWE???? Appreciate Hosses, no Sellings, HLA, HHH on nearly every other segment.. I doubt that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest converge241 Report post Posted September 24, 2002 If they were smart they should push No Mercy as a triple main event (like they did for Fully Loaded and Survivor in 2000). The two title matches and Angle - Benoit rematch. its not like they have to worry about not giving respect to the title matches, because i mean they arent anyway so.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RenegadeX28 Report post Posted September 24, 2002 Unforgiven was a mediocre PPV. Angle vs Benoit, without a doubt, was the best match on the PPV. HLA.....most boring and predictable segment. I knew right away that it was Rikishi. Angle vs Benoit kept me on edge, match of the year! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites