Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted September 25, 2002 hell I can live with a 20 minute Eddy/Edge match. Im Glad they resolved their differences from the first match. They are becoming a great combo in the ring. like Chris Jericho vs Benoit or Angle vs Benoit. I hope Eddy busts out the Vintage Guerrero Moves. Wanna See a Gory Special 2000! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2002 20 min of Edge/Eddy? Best.....Smackdown.......Ever. Wait......damn they could have used that at a ppv instead they give it to us for free. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 25, 2002 A question Brian, do you find anything wrong with Sacrificng Angle and/or Benoit to Brock? Because I sure as fuck do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreenMist Report post Posted September 25, 2002 Rikishi over Chavo.... Crash over Kidman.... Chuckabilly(WHO ARE GOOD GUYS NOW BECAUSE THEY'RE STRAIGHT BECAUSE EVERYONE KNOWS THAT HOMOSEXUALS ARE BAD!) over Tajiri/Noble. I guess they weren't sure if Hurricane jumping to Raw would completely bury the division, so they just had to add to it. Well, at least Hurricane got off the sinking ship. Seriously, though, they claim they're trying with the division, but their idea of trying is feeding all the cruisers to Mark Henry or Rikishi(probably literally, also-I mean, Moore and Henry were both not on the show). And they even look down the cruisers. Anyone remembers Cole's quote from a few week's ago regarding Misterio? "HE'S NOT JUST SOME CRUISERWEIGHT, HE'S TOUGH!". Okay, Cole, thanks for clearing that up, I had some doubts-I thought maybe the cruisers might be good, but you're the all knowing expert. Do you think they intentionally try to tear my heart out and spit on it? Because that's what happens every time they bury the cruisers. Ahhhh, ::end rant:: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted September 25, 2002 At this point, no. Well, after what Undertaker diid, maybe. It just depends how strong looks and who he's going to be sacrificed to in the end. If you build around a guy properly you cna use it to get a lot of other people over. When they built around a weak Rock they got Foley and Triple H up around him. They've done a horrible job building him up though and that's the problem. And the way it looks, Angle will probably get that job back in a much bigger situation so I'm not going to complain. What's the point anyways? Is it going to change anything? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2002 I agree Green Mist. Pushing the cruisers does not mean feeding them to Mark Henry and Albert. Why not build the division around the cruisers and let them go at it? Atleast with Chavo he's like Eddy he's small, but believable against bigger guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted September 25, 2002 the Cruiserweights need more than just one match per week. We don't get that this week. They need to stop this mixing crap. They have now at max 10 Cruiserweights. they can at least let them wrestle each other. Back in WCW days the cruiserweights were the only High point on the show, They should hire whomever was booking and Pushing the cruiserweights there and learn how to do it. My opinion is put a Cruiser match in between segments and matches Like a Filler but a good brisk 10 minute match from any of the lightweights can get the crowd all happy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2002 There needs to be cruiser matches at ppvs. They need to fight over who's #1 contender. There needs to be triple threat cruiser matches, battle royals, and even four way matches. It's not that hard to make a division believable. Are they afraid that the cruisers will upstage the main eventers? Good if they do that will make the main eventers have to work that much harder and put out better matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 25, 2002 At this point, no. Well, after what Undertaker diid, maybe. It just depends how strong looks and who he's going to be sacrificed to in the end. If you build around a guy properly you cna use it to get a lot of other people over. When they built around a weak Rock they got Foley and Triple H up around him. They've done a horrible job building him up though and that's the problem. Because brock lesnar is BEYOND useless. I can be payed how ever much he is being payed and lay down the whole match too! Should I be WWF champion? I see a major logic flaw in sacrificing the whole fucking company to get one guy over when you already have a guy more over and you refuse to do anything with him, because he's small. On top of that, after Brock beats everyone, and (hopefully) has heat, who will be left to be the major challenger that Brock hasn't beaten? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted September 25, 2002 WCW's cruiserweight division was hardly that strong. At points, yes, but otherwise they were just giving them time to do their thing. They're not sacrificing everyone in the company. They didn't sacrifice the Hardys or RVD. The only person that has really put Brock over at this point, is the Rock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 25, 2002 They're not sacrificing everyone in the company. They didn't sacrifice the Hardys or RVD. The only person that has really put Brock over at this point, is the Rock. I call being fed to a guy with no upside whatsoever a sacrifice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted September 25, 2002 Who was fed to Brock? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 25, 2002 You said they will feed Angle or Benoit to him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted September 25, 2002 They probably will feed Angle to him in the short-term for a later win, if Angle can make it as a face. But the question was in the past tense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted September 25, 2002 they could always dig up more "Legends" For Lesnar to defeat. Lex Luger wanted to come back to the WWE...Ok Hire him, for the express purpose that his Spoiled Ass gets beaten by the Brockmeister. Bring back Mr.perfect and let them settle their on Plane dispute by Brock trashing him. Who's left on Thursday for Brock to defeat before he faces the likes of Benoit or Angle? given the fact he'll beat Taker by next PPV. I still say Taker's feud with him will give Angle or Benoit the chance to Move up in the fans minds and turn on face. Who else can possibly be left? Maybe Batistia? Nahhhh Not him, Batistia is the heat stealer, the Guy is about equal size to him no no no Vince wants brock to defeat, really dangerous people like say, Funaki. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 25, 2002 They probably will feed Angle to him in the short-term for a later win, if Angle can make it as a face. But the question was in the past tense. Van Dam was treated like shit in that feud, but I was talking about what they WILL do. And it's stupid to have the monster Brock lose to a guy he already beat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted September 25, 2002 Benoit, Angle (probably twice, once winning at Mania), and Edge. Considering that takes care of four of the next five pay per views, a return match with Rock or Hogan would probably draw a pretty nice buzz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted September 25, 2002 But Van Dam basically won, and how was he treated like shit? Brock looked strong during the start but around the mid-point RVD was a serious threat. Besides, he never own the title or beat him clean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2002 Plus RVD has yet to get his win back from KOTR on Brock hasn't he? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 25, 2002 But Van Dam basically won, and how was he treated like shit? Brock looked strong during the start but around the mid-point RVD was a serious threat. Besides, he never own the title or beat him clean. Brock got the upper hand in every confrontation, beat him clean once, lost twice by DQ, and destroyed him after both those matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest HartFan86 Report post Posted September 25, 2002 Seeing Edge vs. Guerrero and Benoit vs. Angle vs. Rey sounds good enough to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted September 25, 2002 Brock sold and bumped a ton for RVD. RVD was not being squashed. The only thing that really didn't happen was RVD didn't get to pin Brock. Other than that, RVD was generally portrayed very strong and all the DQ's did little to advance Brock so I don't see how that made RVD a sacrifice. When did he beat him clean once? Didn't heyman interfere in the match in the KOTR match? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 25, 2002 Brock sold and bumped a ton for RVD. RVD was not being squashed. The only thing that really didn't happen was RVD didn't get to pin Brock. Other than that, RVD was generally portrayed very strong and all the DQ's did little to advance Brock so I don't see how that made RVD a sacrifice. When did he beat him clean once? Didn't heyman interfere in the match in the KOTR match? I don't even think RVD got an attack in on Brock before Vengeance. Heyman didn't really interfere in KotR (That i recall) his one attack was more of botched interference anyway. I call that clean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted September 25, 2002 Nidia in a bikini contest? Well, ChrisMWaters and all the other Nidia marks will be pleased... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted September 25, 2002 I''l have to wathc it again, but there were times where RVD had Brock and Heyman individually; I don't remember him ever getting obth of them together. The thing was the DQ's hurt him as much as a job, and RVD basically came out of the feud looking better than him, so I don't know how that prompts calling RVD a sacrifice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 25, 2002 He never got Brock, always Heyman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted September 25, 2002 Yeah he did... I remember specifically a spinning heel kick that sent Brock outside of the ring and seeing Paul and him retreating. But once again, how do you justify calling RVD a sacrifice? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted September 25, 2002 that was like a run in or something? you count Run ins? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 25, 2002 Yeah he did... I remember specifically a spinning heel kick that sent Brock outside of the ring and seeing Paul and him retreating. But once again, how do you justify calling RVD a sacrifice? Are you counting the Kotr Coronation? The same night that saw Brock kill RVD and send him through a table? That's all it was! a Kick! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted September 25, 2002 I've seen Angle count just about everything else when it comes to Edge, so why not? But really, that, the KOTR match, and the fact that Brock was selling too much for someone going to face Rock was all I remember from that feud. Anyways, the only guy who was ever sacrificed was Hogan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites