Guest MrRant Posted September 28, 2002 Report Posted September 28, 2002 Hundreds Arrested at D.C. Protest I didn't see any reports of anyone being bashed in the face while proclaiming their "righteous cause". I so enjoy hippie beatings. Bunch of no nothing fucks who think they know what they are talking about.
Guest Kotzenjunge Posted September 28, 2002 Report Posted September 28, 2002 They do know what they're talking about, they're just saying something you don't endorse. The people who destroyed property should have been taken into custody yes, but parading without a permit? Arresting people who may not have had anything to do with it? Why couldn't I have been in Washington when this went down? Tomorrow should be interesting to say the least. I look forward to the sight of 10,000 people or so trying to get a message across. I hope the number swells with people who want to support them after hearing about today. Just please don't break anything, then the right will pound on you as if you're Satan arriving on Earth. Kotzenjunge Supports These People
Guest Kahran Ramsus Posted September 28, 2002 Report Posted September 28, 2002 I live in Ottawa, so we get these fucking idiots protesting all the time.
Guest MrRant Posted September 28, 2002 Report Posted September 28, 2002 Stop corporate greed? WTF is that? Why would anyone support that? If they hate corporations I suggest they buy a cave and become a hermit. Or move to a 3rd world country. I hope to one day be one of the greedy corporate leaders. MrRant, Hate hippies so doesn't support these people.
Guest Kotzenjunge Posted September 28, 2002 Report Posted September 28, 2002 I think anyone seeing all the corporate graft being exposed over the last year would support them, especially since such greed led to the liquidation of thousands and thousands of jobs and made an economy that was slowly recovering take a step backward. It's great to want to get ahead and make a lot of money, but not at the expense of others from your own want to do illegal activities. Kotzenjunge Pays Attention to Enron, Worldcom, Xerox, Tyco...
Guest MrRant Posted September 28, 2002 Report Posted September 28, 2002 They aren't talking about Enron. They are talking about corporations as a whole. MrRant Works for insanely huge company.
Guest Kotzenjunge Posted September 28, 2002 Report Posted September 28, 2002 Which have been working to force out smaller businesses for years and over the last decade have almost accomplished that goal. We shouldn't need the SEC to watch them as closely as they have to. Didn't seeing the Adelphia executives being led off in handcuffs tell anyone that something was wrong with how things are in Corporate America? Kotzenjunge Liberal Whore
Guest MrRant Posted September 28, 2002 Report Posted September 28, 2002 Again... most corporate America is not like that. And AGAIN these people are protesting CAPITALISM and think we should fund every 3rd world country in the world. MrRant, Greedy Corporate Bastard
Guest DragonflyKid Posted September 28, 2002 Report Posted September 28, 2002 I used to watch Free speech tv when I went through a liberal phase and I think corporate greed refers to corporations who are amoral and whose only conern is profit. The hippies don't like the fact some corporations would decimate the environment for profit or move their factories to other countries to avoid environmental restrictions and ensure safe working conditions and adequate wages for the workers. They also don't like the fact the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, with the rich getting more powerful at the expense of the poorer. The hippies are basically challenging the Enron's of the world and the corporations that buy influence and do not have to be accountable as an individual would have to be. Although I may still agree with the hippies on some issues as no system is perfect, I feel they go way too far and are just a bunch of idealistic crybabies. Protesting isn't going to change the world, it's kinda like that saying(I don't know the exact words), "a single pair of hands at work do more that a million hands clasped in prayer." Capitalism is here to stay, the only way to change it is from within. A minority of the population complaining is only noise. On a final note I say bring back the violent nihilistic anarchists, none of these love your brother pacifist anarchists, they're just too damn boring.
Guest Kotzenjunge Posted September 28, 2002 Report Posted September 28, 2002 Hey, I said I supported the anti-corporation part, not the anti-capitalism part. I'm not a complete idiot. I think we're forgetting the other half of the protest was against the possible war with Iraq, which is the side of it I agree with much more. Kotzenjunge Would Keep Quiet for the Anti-Capitalism Parts but Would Yell the Anti-Corporate Parts
Guest Olympic Slam Posted September 28, 2002 Report Posted September 28, 2002 Hundreds Arrested at D.C. Protest I didn't see any reports of anyone being bashed in the face while proclaiming their "righteous cause". I so enjoy hippie beatings. As fun as it is seeing a hippe getting tossed around, I'd rather they just be ignored. These people LOVE to be martyrs and love to protest because they get off on it. I usually just ignore protestors of any kind because I know they're looking for reactions and they're looking for confrontation. Without that, they're just a bunch of ugly people holding up signs and yelling stuff.
Guest Kotzenjunge Posted September 28, 2002 Report Posted September 28, 2002 Why do we shun things that our country was founded on, like protesting and organized marches and such as wrong? Imagine how different life would be if these things were never allowed. Kotzenjunge Still Supports these People
Guest MrRant Posted September 28, 2002 Report Posted September 28, 2002 But they were breaking things. I don't think anyone has a problem with an organized PEACEFUL protest and if they obey the laws then more power to them. MrRant Still likes to see hippies tossed around.
Guest Some Guy Posted September 28, 2002 Report Posted September 28, 2002 Kotzenjunge Would Keep Quiet for the Anti-Capitalism Parts but Would Yell the Anti-Corporate Parts It's kind of hard to have one without the other. Corporations do a huge part to feul our ecomony and provide millions of jobs in America, they are Capitalism. A few bad ones here and there shouldn't give all of them a bad name. If I said that since my mom has been mugged 3 times (twice at knife point and once at gun point, where she was dragged into a building and thought she was going to be raped) by young black men and because of that I hate all black people (I don't), you'd think that was pretty stupid, right? Well there you go. At one downtown intersection, protesters chained themselves together to block traffic. They should have been run over. It's all wel and good to staeg a protest that no one gives a shit about, but at least have the decency to not obstruct other's lives. That'll piss people off, not make them listen. In '91 in Boston they did that shit to protest the liberation of Kuwait (a 3rd world, Islamic country. But I thought we hate all of them?) at rush hour. They blocked off a few streets, severely pissing off the commuters. We haev bad enough traffic and roads here as it is, we don;t need a bunch of retard hippies getting in the way.
Guest Kotzenjunge Posted September 28, 2002 Report Posted September 28, 2002 Certainly got your attention though, didn't it? The problem is that no one listens to liberals in this country these days, so such methods are needed just to get people's attention, since every other normal channel has been stifled. And yes, you can have a well-ordered capitalist economy without corporate graft. It wouldn't be as much of an issue if it wasn't a matter of them being some of the largest in the world and affecting billions in dollars and thousands of stockholders and employees who are all now just SOL because the people up top couldn't handle things in an ethical manner. I can guarantee that if it wasn't so many companies it wouldn't be nearly as much of an issue, but when the biggest bankruptcy in US history is followed by about a dozen more stories of similar situations, it raises concern. Kotzenjunge Would Be in the Chain too, but is Afraid of Being Run Over
Guest Some Guy Posted September 28, 2002 Report Posted September 28, 2002 Certainly got your attention though, didn't it? The problem is that no one listens to liberals in this country these days, so such methods are needed just to get people's attention, since every other normal channel has been stifled. Yes it got people's attention, I was 10 and getting ready for Hogan to fight Slaughter at the time but it pissed them off and most sane people would disregard them anyway. We're trying to help oppressed people and the Left doesn't like it. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm....... No one listens to Liberals? Since when? The demonstraters aren't "Liberals" anyway. They were advocating that we let Kuwait be taken and now that we let Sadam continue to oppress people. "Liberal" means freedom, these people doen't want freedom apparently. And yes, you can have a well-ordered capitalist economy without corporate graft. It wouldn't be as much of an issue if it wasn't a matter of them being some of the largest in the world and affecting billions in dollars and thousands of stockholders and employees who are all now just SOL because the people up top couldn't handle things in an ethical manner. I can guarantee that if it wasn't so many companies it wouldn't be nearly as much of an issue, but when the biggest bankruptcy in US history is followed by about a dozen more stories of similar situations, it raises concern. The Gov't is trying to make laws to prevent it from happening again. 12 out of (countless corparations), OMG! it's an epidemic! And all Corps are evil! Things will settle themselves out eventually and don't worry something else will come up to fill the Left with righteous indignation. God forbid you just sit back and be happy for a little while. (not you specifically Kotz, but it seems that many Leftist are just never happy about anything. I think it's a character flaw.)
Guest kkktookmybabyaway Posted September 28, 2002 Report Posted September 28, 2002 Ahh, I love me a good pseudo-hippie beating. Anyone ever been to one of these "rallies"? When I lived in State College for the worst two years of my life, I had the pleasure of witnessing a bunch of pseudo-hippie events, the best being when the national governors convention came to town. Oh the memories of wiping a "Free Mumia" flyer across my @ss and giving it back to the pseudo-hippie who gave it to me. Those were the days...
Guest Olympic Slam Posted September 28, 2002 Report Posted September 28, 2002 God forbid you just sit back and be happy for a little while. (not you specifically Kotz, but it seems that many Leftist are just never happy about anything. I think it's a character flaw.) Yeah what is the deal with that? Most liberals I've dealt with or liberals I'm familiar with in the media are very angry, very unhappy, and generally miserable people. The further left these people seem to be, the more pronounced those traits appear to be. I have a theory about why leftists are the way they are but I'll save it for another day.
Guest kkktookmybabyaway Posted September 28, 2002 Report Posted September 28, 2002 "Yeah what is the deal with that? Most liberals I've dealt with or liberals I'm familiar with in the media are very angry, very unhappy, and generally miserable people. The further left these people seem to be, the more pronounced those traits appear to be." Agreed. My theory is that someone, somewhere is being oppressed and they have to fight for their rights, or something like that...
Guest Kotzenjunge Posted September 28, 2002 Report Posted September 28, 2002 I'm very happy with the current state of things, but then again I'm not a full-fledged member of these people. The thing is that pretty much any politically active group, no matter who they are, are perceived as unhappy because they are. If they were content with things, they wouldn't be actively trying to change them. In this case, these folks are unhappy. If there had been a counter-protest staged by war hawks and free enterprise advocates, that's a sign that they were unhappy. I'm curious about this theory, and why it makes leftists sound as if they've got some kind of condition. Kotzenjunge Has Moderateitis
Guest MrRant Posted September 28, 2002 Report Posted September 28, 2002 I think the problem with Leftists is that they think everyone should get a helping hand.. ahem.. excuse me.. a FUCKING STEP LADDER of help instead of working for themselves. I'm all for giving a helping hand to get people on their feet but they seem to want to bring in a fucking forklift.
Guest kkktookmybabyaway Posted September 28, 2002 Report Posted September 28, 2002 "If they were content with things, they wouldn't be actively trying to change them. In this case, these folks are unhappy." The funny thing is I bet at least half those "protesting" don't even know what they're standing up for...
Guest Kotzenjunge Posted September 28, 2002 Report Posted September 28, 2002 If we have the means to do so, why not? I see nothing wrong with using all available resources to help the public good. Kotzenjunge Doesn't Like Surpluses
Guest kkktookmybabyaway Posted September 28, 2002 Report Posted September 28, 2002 Not me, I'm all about surpressing the underclass. Tell the CIA to keep on pumping in the crack in the inner cities...
Guest MrRant Posted September 28, 2002 Report Posted September 28, 2002 It creates laziness and denies people the satisfaction of reaping the rewards for their hard work. Do I mind people when people lose their jobs getting unemployement or a loan or something until they get things straight? Of course not. But I do have a problem with people trying to live of MY hard work. I want the taxes I pay to benefit ME. Not some lazy motherfucker who only has time to walk down to the local office to pick up his check inbetween Hogan's Heroes re-runs and smoking crack.
Guest Kotzenjunge Posted September 28, 2002 Report Posted September 28, 2002 I really hope you're joking. It's hilarious if you are, but if you're serious... ugh. That was meant for KKK's post. Kotzenjunge Shocked and Appalled, but Can't Stop Laughing
Guest Kotzenjunge Posted September 28, 2002 Report Posted September 28, 2002 There are some people who don't derive a feeling of reward for hard work. More often than not these people either do half-assed jobs at their work or are out on the street. The way things are currently, there are more positives coming out of public welfare programs than negatives, so they should stick around, whether we like it or not. There will be abuses of every system no matter what, because people will always find loopholes and ways to do it. Kotzenjunge Doesn't Fix Working Appliances
Guest Vern Gagne Posted September 28, 2002 Report Posted September 28, 2002 I think the problem with Leftists is that they think everyone should get a helping hand.. ahem.. excuse me.. a FUCKING STEP LADDER of help instead of working for themselves. I'm all for giving a helping hand to get people on their feet but they seem to want to bring in a fucking forklift. Worse than that if you say Blacks or any minority should get jobs and support themselves your labeled a racist.
Guest Kotzenjunge Posted September 28, 2002 Report Posted September 28, 2002 I STILL don't get the "get a job" = racist thing. I'll say that to anyone not pulling their weight to the best of their abilities. Kotzenjunge Is Clueless
Guest kkktookmybabyaway Posted September 28, 2002 Report Posted September 28, 2002 'I really hope you're joking. It's hilarious if you are, but if you're serious... ugh" You decide for yourself (insert evil laugh)...
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