Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 28, 2002 Okay, I thought of the idea of picking out the top five faces and heels on both shows (overness) and comparing them to top five faces and heels (push) just to see how fucked up Vince is right now. So Basically, it should look like this Over Raw Faces 1 2 3 4 5 Heels 1 2 3 4 5 SD! Faces 1 2 3 4 5 Heels 1 2 3 4 5 VERSUS Push Raw Faces 1 2 3 4 5 Heels 1 2 3 4 5 SD! Faces 1 2 3 4 5 Heels 1 2 3 4 5 I'll do mine later, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alfdogg Report post Posted September 28, 2002 I'll bite: Over Raw Faces 1. RVD 2. Booker T 3. Hurricane 4. Kane 5. Goldust Heels 1. Chris Jericho 2. HHH 3. Rico 4. William Regal 5. Big Show SD! Faces 1. Undertaker 2. Edge 3. Rey Misterio 4. Rikishi 5. Uh...John Cena I guess Heels 1. Kurt Angle 2. Eddie Guerrero 3. Chris Benoit 4. Tajiri 5. Brock Lesnar VERSUS Push Raw Faces 1. RVD (It was Bubba but he's hurt now) 2. Kane 3. Booker T 4. Jeff Hardy 5. Goldust Heels 1. HHH (I know, I'm shocked too) 2. Chris Jericho 3. Test 4. Big Show 5. Rico SD! Faces 1. Undertaker 2. Edge 3. Rikishi 4. Rey 5. Mark Henry Heels 1. Brock Lesnar 2. Kurt Angle 3. Matt Hardy 4. Chris Benoit 5. Eddie Guerrero Just my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted September 28, 2002 Bubba's cleared to wrestle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alfdogg Report post Posted September 28, 2002 Okay then, put him at number 1 and move everyone else down a spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rob Edwards Report post Posted September 28, 2002 Over Raw Faces 1. Booker T 2. Rob Van Dam 3. Kane 4. Bubba Ray 5. Goldust Heels 1. Chris Jericho 2. Triple H 3. Rico 4. Christian 5. Test SD! Faces 1. Edge 2. Rey mysterio 3. Undertaker 4. Funaki 5. Billy & Chuck Heels 1. Kurt Angle 2. Eddie Guerrero 3. Brock Lesnar 4. Chris Benoit 5. Matt Hardy VERSUS Push Raw Faces 1. Rob Van Dam 2. Kane 3. Booker T 4. Jeff Hardy 5. Bubba Ray Heels 1. Triple H 2. Test 3. Ric Flair 4. Chris Jericho 5. Rosey & Jamal SD! Faces 1. Undertaker 2. Edge 3. Rey Mysterio 4. Rikishi 5. Mark Henry Heels 1. Brock Lesnar 2. Kurt Angle 3. Eddie Guerrero 4. Chris Benoit 5. Matt Hardy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins Report post Posted September 28, 2002 Might as well as give a crack at this... Over Raw Faces 1 Rob Van Dam 2 Booker T 3 Jeff Hardy 4 Goldust 5 Bubba Heels 1 Chris Jericho 2 Un-Americans 3 Chris Nowinski 4 HHH 5 Ric Flair SD! Faces 1 Undertaker 2 Rey Mysterio 3 Edge 4 Hogan 5 Funaki Heels 1 Kurt Angle 2 Brock Lesnar 3 Eddie Gurerro 4 Chris Benoit 5 Jamie Noble VERSUS Push Raw Faces 1 Bubba 2 Kane 3 Jeff Hardy 4 Booker T 5 RVD Heels 1 HHH 2 HHH 3 HHH 4 Ric Flair 5 "That Blonde Guy No One Cares About" - HHH in WWE This Is HHH's Magazine SD! Faces 1 Undertaker 2 Edge 3 Rikishi 4 Rey Mysterio 5 Billy and Chuck Heels 1 Brock Lesnar 2 Matt Hardy 3 Eddy Gurerro 4 Chris Benoit 5 Kurt Angle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Y2BigJ Report post Posted September 28, 2002 Over Raw Faces 1. Rob Van Dam 2. Booker T 3. Kane 4. Goldust 5. Bubba Ray Heels 1. Chris Jericho 2. Triple H 3. Rico 4. Nowinski 5. Ric Flair SD! Faces 1. Undertaker 2. Edge 3. Rey 4. John Cena 5. Billy & Chuck Heels 1. Kurt Angle 2. Eddie Guerrero 3. Matt Hardy 4. Chris Benoit 5. Brock Lesnar VERSUS Push Raw Faces 1. Rob Van Dam 2. Kane 3. Bubba Ray 4. Jeff Hardy 5. Booker T Heels 1. Triple H 2. Rosey & Jamal 3. Ric Flair 4. Chris Jericho 5. Test SD! Faces 1. Undertaker 2. Edge 3. Rikishi 4. Rey 5. Mark Henry Heels 1. Brock Lesnar 2. Matt Hardy 3. Eddie Guerrero 4. Chris Benoit 5. Kurt Angle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nikowwf Report post Posted September 28, 2002 ok, ill bite even though this is just another Brock sucks and Angle is not getting pushed topic in disguise..... OVER RAW FACES 1. RVD 2. BOOKER T 3. KANE 4. GOLDUST (from Booker, but nonetheless) 5. JEFF HARDY HEELS 1. ERIC BISCHOFF 2. HHH 3. UN-AMERICANS 4. CHRIS JERICHO 5. JAMAL & ROSIE SMACKDOWN FACES 1. EDGE 2. UNDERTAKER 3. REY MYSTERIO 4. TORRIE WILSON 5. BILLY & CHUCK This was very hard, btw. Heels rule the day on smackdown. Billy & Chuck are here almost by default. HEELS 1. KURT ANGLE 2. BROCK LESNAR 3. EDDY GUERRERO 4. CHRIS BENOIT 5. JAMIE NOBLE I think the smackdown heels get a lot of tweener heat...a lot of "this guys is cool but hes the heel so I'll boo him" PUSH RAW FACES 1. Rob Van Dam 2. Bubba Ray 3. Booker T 4. Kane 5. Goldust Note: RVD may be first, but thats a testament to how crappy everyones pushes are, not how good his is. HEELS 1. HHH 2. HHH 3. JAMAL & ROSIE 4. ERIC BISCHOFF 5. UN-AMERICANS HHH refused to be on this list less than once. SMACKDOWN FACES 1. UNDERTAKER 2. STEPHANIE MCMAHON 3. EDGE 4. BILLY & CHUCK 5. REY MYSTERIO HEELS 1. BROCK LESNAR 2. CHRIS BENOIT 3. EDDY GUERRERO 4. JAMIE NOBLE 5. KURT ANGLE This is hard. Are we going by wins & losses, or things they do? Angle is positioned in the upper mid-card, but he rarely gets a sustained "push". Hmm.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cabbageboy Report post Posted September 28, 2002 Well from reading the Raw preview it seems to me like the focus is on HHH/RVD and not much mention of Bubba, so make of that what you will. Who would have Bubba as the top face on Raw? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 28, 2002 ok, ill bite even though this is just another Brock sucks and Angle is not getting pushed topic in disguise..... You LIE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nikowwf Report post Posted September 28, 2002 Tis ok. There can never be too many Kurt Angle needs to be pushed more posts. (Or HHH is a manipulative bastard posts for that matter.) Niko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mad Dog Report post Posted September 28, 2002 Over Raw Faces 1 RVD 2 Booker T 3 Kane 4 Goldust 5 Hurricane Heels 1 Bisch 2 Chris Jericho 3 Un-americans 4 HHH 5 Ric Flair SD! Faces 1 Hogan 2 Edge 3 Rey Mysterio 4 Undertaker 5 Funaki Heels 1 Kurt Angle 2 Chris Benoit 3 Brock Lesnar 4 Eddie Guerrero 5 Jamie Noble VERSUS Push Raw Faces 1 Kane 2 Bubba Ray 3 RVD 4 Hurricane 5 Booker T Heels 1 HHH 2 Ric Flair 3 Jamal & Rosie 4 Chris Jericho 5 Test SD! Faces 1 Undertaker 2 Steph 3 Edge 4 Billy & Chuck 5 Rikishi Heels 1 Brock Lesnar 2 Kurt Angle 3 Chris Benoit 4 Eddie Guerrero 5 Matt Hardy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheyCallMeMark Report post Posted September 28, 2002 I don't watch RAW. Faces Overness: Faces Push: 1. Edge 1. Undertaker 2. Rey Misterio 2. Edge 3. Undertaker 3. Billy & Chuck 4. Billy & Chuck 4. Rikishi 5. Funaki 5. Rey Misterio Not bad, actually. Number six would have been Rikishi so everyone they're pushing is over, in a smilar order as far as faces go. Vince is doing pretty good here. Heel Overness: Heel Push: 1. Kurt Angle 1. Brock Lesnar 2. Eddie Guerrero 2. Kurt Angle 3. Chris Benoit 3. Chris Benoit 4. Brock Lesnar 4. Jamie Knoble 5. Jamie Knoble 5. Edie Guerrero Once again, the pushes and who's over are pretty even. The difference between the pushes besides Lesnar are negligable and could be switched around and still be right. Also consider, they're pushing Lesnar harder than Angle, but they don't NEED to push Angle. He's already over. Lesnar is gaining heat so his push is working, and I don't find anything offensive about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites