Guest Pop Culture God Report post Posted September 28, 2002 NOTE: These do not reflect the programs the workers are currently in. This is simply hypothetical. RAW Feuds: Hurricane vs. Chris Jericho: Despite being buried, Jericho still is an established upper mid-carder and a believeable World Champion. After his tag title reign, the Hurricane will need a solid program that reflects his work ethic, and overness. This could hypothetically elevate Hurricane. RVD vs. Lance Storm: Lance's lack of charisma would be overshadowed by RVD's crowd heat, and Lance could provide technical grace simalar to that of Benoit or Angle. Booker T vs. HHH: "SUCKAAAA" is more over than half the roster, and HHH's reign isn't pulling in the ratings. Enough is enough, and it's time for a change. SmackDown! Feuds: Brock Lesnar vs. Chris Benoit: If these guys had a PPV ME, then I smell MOTY. Brock ideally should destroy Benoit with his power, with Benoit needing to be quick and use a lot of submissions. Brock could then remind us of NCAA title and counter with his won holds. This could be a Brock feud that results in... ya know... GOOD matches. Rey Misterio vs. Matt Hardy (Ver. 1) Rey has been constantly impressive, and Matt is technically a CW so make this one for the CW title. BTW, if you don't like Matt's new character, then you are a cold, cold, human being who I want nothing to do with. Bautista vs. Eddy Guerrero This could benifit bautista by giving him some good matches, and help Eddy by keeping him in fan's minds and in another stable program now that the one with Edge is done. I'd put Eddy over, but only with MASSIVE cheating to win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Psycho Diablo Report post Posted September 28, 2002 I still don't see this glorifying Brock because "He's an NCAA champion" stuff. I wouldn't get my hopes up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 28, 2002 SmackDown! Feuds: Brock Lesnar vs. Chris Benoit: If these guys had a PPV ME, then I smell MOTY. Brock ideally should destroy Benoit with his power, with Benoit needing to be quick and use a lot of submissions. Brock could then remind us of NCAA title and counter with his won holds. This could be a Brock feud that results in... ya know... GOOD matches. Bautista vs. Eddy Guerrero This could benifit bautista by giving him some good matches, and help Eddy by keeping him in fan's minds and in another stable program now that the one with Edge is done. I'd put Eddy over, but only with MASSIVE cheating to win. Your habit of putting GODS~! with lumberers to make the lumberers look good bothers me. You are just wasting Benoit and Guerrero. And Brock needs to be in the match of the segment before he makes match of the year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest New World Order of Wrestling Report post Posted September 28, 2002 Batista vs. Guerrero? No offense, but you are on glue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted September 28, 2002 Hurricane vs RVD Hurricane vs Christian Hurricane vs Lance Storm a 6 man tag team division Dudleys 3 Count Un Americans Island Boys Booker T, Goldust, Shelton Benjamin Raven, Dreamer, Richards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mad Dog Report post Posted September 28, 2002 How about an extended Chris Jericho vs. Booker T feud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Pop Culture God Report post Posted September 28, 2002 SmackDown! Feuds: Brock Lesnar vs. Chris Benoit: If these guys had a PPV ME, then I smell MOTY. Brock ideally should destroy Benoit with his power, with Benoit needing to be quick and use a lot of submissions. Brock could then remind us of NCAA title and counter with his won holds. This could be a Brock feud that results in... ya know... GOOD matches. Bautista vs. Eddy Guerrero This could benifit bautista by giving him some good matches, and help Eddy by keeping him in fan's minds and in another stable program now that the one with Edge is done. I'd put Eddy over, but only with MASSIVE cheating to win. Your habit of putting GODS~! with lumberers to make the lumberers look good bothers me. You are just wasting Benoit and Guerrero. And Brock needs to be in the match of the segment before he makes match of the year. Brock can be watchable without a god. (Lesnar/Rock, Lesnar/RVD) and Benoit seems headed for a face turn. i thought it was logical to see these to match up. Bautista is a guy with tons of potential and having a guy like Eddy work with him could only help him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest New World Order of Wrestling Report post Posted September 28, 2002 What potential have you seen in Batista? He has mastered the spinebuster, but not much else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Pop Culture God Report post Posted September 28, 2002 What potential have you seen in Batista? He has mastered the spinebuster, but not much else. I did say he was green. He has a distinct look, great impact, and could be one of those "silent monster" types. I think since Bautista really hasn't had any oppurtunities to show us what he can do, we hold off on judgement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mad Dog Report post Posted September 28, 2002 He's huge but his offense is very underwhelming to say the least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 28, 2002 Brock can be watchable without a god. (Lesnar/Rock, Lesnar/RVD) My argument. Lesnar/Cena. I rest my case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Pop Culture God Report post Posted September 28, 2002 Brock can be watchable without a god. (Lesnar/Rock, Lesnar/RVD) My argument. Lesnar/Cena. I rest my case. Yeah, because Cena is such a fucking legend, that if you can't have a good match with him; you're screwed. Brock/Benoit would kick ass. The "silent killer" badass vs. The "Uber-Monster" champion. Now, would Vince have faith enough to go with it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Pop Culture God Report post Posted September 28, 2002 He's huge but his offense is very underwhelming to say the least. Mad Dog, let's be resonable. He's had two 30-second tag-ins against Randy Orton, and a 2 minute match that D-Von controlled till the end. I'm not saying he's Kawada, just saying give the man a shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 28, 2002 Brock can be watchable without a god. (Lesnar/Rock, Lesnar/RVD) My argument. Lesnar/Cena. I rest my case. Yeah, because Cena is such a fucking legend, that if you can't have a good match with him; you're screwed. Angle had agood match with him. So did Jericho. You can have a good match with him. The man hasn't had any other good matches, but nothing as horrible as the Lesnar match Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mad Dog Report post Posted September 28, 2002 Bautista's offense it just way too basic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Pop Culture God Report post Posted September 28, 2002 Brock can be watchable without a god. (Lesnar/Rock, Lesnar/RVD) My argument. Lesnar/Cena. I rest my case. Yeah, because Cena is such a fucking legend, that if you can't have a good match with him; you're screwed. Angle had agood match with him. So did Jericho. You can have a good match with him. The man hasn't had any other good matches, but nothing as horrible as the Lesnar match Ummmm Angle and Jericho carried Cena, and treated him with kid's gloves cause he was the next "blue chipper". I have never said Brock has Angle like technical ability, but he doesn't have to. BTW, Brock has never gotten an opponent like Cena did. By that I mean: Brock didn't get to almost-upset, and then defeat the #1 and #2 most-over heels AND best wrestlers on Smack Down in one month. Maybe if he did he'd be over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 28, 2002 I have never said Brock has Angle like technical ability, but he doesn't have to. Ahh, but for Brock/Benoit to be match of the year, it would have to beat out Angle/Benoit, meaning Brock can wrestle better than Angle. Their is a method to my madness. Brock didn't get to almost-upset, and then defeat the #1 and #2 most-over heels AND best wrestlers on Smack Down in one month. Maybe if he did he'd be over. Maybe not best wrestlers, but he did get to murder three of the top faces in the whole company. I'd say that outranks almost beating Angle and fluking a win over Jericho. Of course, if he faced Angle and Jericho, those matches MIGHT be good. I don't think Angle can do that kind of carry job, and Jericho hasn't been that motivated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Pop Culture God Report post Posted September 28, 2002 I have never said Brock has Angle like technical ability, but he doesn't have to. Ahh, but for Brock/Benoit to be match of the year, it would have to beat out Angle/Benoit, meaning Brock can wrestle better than Angle. Their is a method to my madness. Brock didn't get to almost-upset, and then defeat the #1 and #2 most-over heels AND best wrestlers on Smack Down in one month. Maybe if he did he'd be over. Maybe not best wrestlers, but he did get to murder three of the top faces in the whole company. I'd say that outranks almost beating Angle and fluking a win over Jericho. Of course, if he faced Angle and Jericho, those matches MIGHT be good. I don't think Angle can do that kind of carry job, and Jericho hasn't been that motivated. He beat up the Hardy's (Meaningless), Since he lost the blow-off at Vengeance, he didn't murder RVD. Beat Rock clean, and destroyed Hogan which didn't matter since he had been jobbed to hell ANYWAY. And Cena didn't have an agent interfere in every match. Brock/Benoit could be really really great if Brock was allowed to work like he did in OVW. But he can't cause that ain't "WWE Style". However if he debuted the SSP against Benoit he could give Benoit/Angle a run for it's money. Brock/Benoit could be a match where the sheer brutality makes up for a lack of precision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 28, 2002 He beat RVD clean at KotR, and killed him every week leading up to a DQ loss at Vengeance, and then killed him again. He was not booked badly in that feud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Pop Culture God Report post Posted September 28, 2002 He beat RVD clean at KotR, and killed him every week leading up to a DQ loss at Vengeance, and then killed him again. He was not booked badly in that feud. No, he got a cheap win at KOTR because of Heyman. He was beaten up the next night, got the beating back the next two weeks and lost at Vengeance. NEITHER man was booked strong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ram Report post Posted September 28, 2002 Brock's current moveset of 3 moves is so enthralling. Mmm, put him in a match with Benoit, and watch him use those 3 moves with NCAA Champion ability! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ISportsFan Report post Posted September 28, 2002 However if he debuted the SSP against Benoit he could give Benoit/Angle a run for it's money. Brock/Benoit could be a match where the sheer brutality makes up for a lack of precision. I really woner why people think that a match will be raised about *** just because Lesnar would do a SSP. I mean, it's a cool move and stuff, but it isnot worth *** or more to a match rating. As a matter of fact, it really isn't much to a match rating, because it means nothing in the psychology of the match unless it's a "pull out all the stops" type-of-thing (and the SSP finishes the match). Jason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 28, 2002 He beat RVD clean at KotR, and killed him every week leading up to a DQ loss at Vengeance, and then killed him again. He was not booked badly in that feud. No, he got a cheap win at KOTR because of Heyman. He was beaten up the next night, got the beating back the next two weeks and lost at Vengeance. NEITHER man was booked strong. I'm trying to remember KoTR, and all I remember is Heyman dropping RVD on the ropes, which actually led to RVD falling and almost pinning Brock anyway. He was KICKED (once, I think) the next night. Then they had an even match, and then Brock killed RVD after it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Pop Culture God Report post Posted September 28, 2002 He beat RVD clean at KotR, and killed him every week leading up to a DQ loss at Vengeance, and then killed him again. He was not booked badly in that feud. No, he got a cheap win at KOTR because of Heyman. He was beaten up the next night, got the beating back the next two weeks and lost at Vengeance. NEITHER man was booked strong. I'm trying to remember KoTR, and all I remember is Heyman dropping RVD on the ropes, which actually led to RVD falling and almost pinning Brock anyway. He was KICKED (once, I think) the next night. Then they had an even match, and then Brock killed RVD after it. Heyman did stuff the entire match. the next night, RVD interrupted the coronation ceremony, bitched Lesnar out, and gave Heyman a Van Terminator. (Not at the same time though. the Lesnar punk-out happened first.) Neither man looked strong at anytime, so I'd call it a terrible feud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted September 29, 2002 And Brock never beat RVD for the intercontinental title afterward despite being the #1 world title contender. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 29, 2002 I'll have to watch KotR again. I only remember heyman doing one significant thing, which helped RVD. And the next night, he interupted the coronation ceremony, and kicked Brock. Then they had the match, afterwards Heyman took a Frog Spash and RVD went through the table. The next week Brock killed Ric Flair and no sold the Figure 4, and RVD beat Regal. They yelled at each other. The next week, Raw is "Ow, My Quad" RVD Kicked Brock again, and Van Terminatored Heyman. Later in the night, he was F5ed on the ramp. The Next week, RVD lost to Undertaker in a tag match. that also involved Brock and someone. At The PPV, RVD won by DQ and was then murdered. RVD barely touched Brock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted September 29, 2002 But Brock still failed despite being the number one contender. The feud was booked horribly because it seemed like they were building up to RVD finally pinning him but they couldn't do that without compromising Brock's impending PPV challenge and win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 29, 2002 But Brock still failed despite being the number one contender. The feud was booked horribly because it seemed like they were building up to RVD finally pinning him but they couldn't do that without compromising Brock's impending PPV challenge and win. By D FUCKING Q! And it's not like he he was distraught over the loss either. He was out there to hurt RVD, and then move on to the world title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Pop Culture God Report post Posted September 29, 2002 Yeah AS you have to admit neither man was booked to look strong so you can't say Brock was booked to murder RVD the same way he did to Hogan and Rock. If he had beaten UT he would probobly be over as a face. People just love a monster heel, and we haven't had a good one since HHH in 2000. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 29, 2002 In all honesty, RVD should have won that match, Because Brock killed him everytime they met for a fucking month, and since RVD only won by DQ and was then killed again, I'd say Brock looked strong the whole time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites