Strongest comic book villain

[Guest SupaTaft]

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*NOTE* Due to my haste, I misprinted the topic. It SHOULD be strongest comic book CHARACTER. Thank you for understanding.

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All right. Now again we spark the ever popular and always flameable thread of who the strongest comic book character is.

 

Lets keep the bitching to a minimal people. I know its a tough and interesting topic but we all have our own opinions and we should all be tolerant of everyone elses.

 

This topic pertains to all comic books, not limited to Marvel/DC.

 

I'm gonna go with the old standby of Thor.

 

-Taft

[Guest Sassquatch]

Why?

[Guest gthureson]

Well, I think the answer to this quite obvious.

 

The Hulk.

 

He says it himself,

 

"Hulk is strongest one there is!"

 

How can you argue with that?

[Guest crandamaniac]

Are we limited to mostly superhero/villains? Because somebody can easily say some sort of cosmic being like Galactus and pretty much ruin any argument

[Guest cynicalprofit]

Strongest would be Marvels Death, she can kill anything, duh. Lets see hulk or thor top that, I can crush rocks, i can crush things, i can kill you by looking at you.

 

Noncosmic/mutant/born with it, im giving superman the win becase, his powers arent from outside sources, like thor and hulks are. He was born that way. hulk and thor are not, Im also giving props to lobo because he killed santa and his whole planet.

 

Non mutant, Batman, beats punisher, and other then that i cant actively think of a nonmutant or superpowered being, sure theres more but i dont read books actively and havent cared in years.

[Guest Sassquatch]

If we're talking about who the strongest non-Mutant is then it could go to Bane, the Kingpin or the Ox. All three of them have shown incredible strength in certain situations in the past. Batman and Frank are strong but the three men mentioned above have shown on their brute strength which has beaten some of Marvel and DC's finest.

[Guest BA_Baracus]

I'd think this should be easy.

 

Superman.

 

The exact limit of his strength of course changes from story to story...but the basic rule seems to be...if the story requires it, Superman can pick up/destroy anything.

 

His strength is essentially limitless.

[Guest Pop Culture God]

This one is easy:

 

 

DEADMAN: Dead... and Loving It!

[Guest gthureson]

Ah, but Superman was not born with his strength. The exact nature of it depends on how far along the continuity you are, but it derives one way or another from the yellow sun. Stick Hulk (who is the strongest one there is,remember), on Krypton, he is still the strongest one there is. Stick Kal-El back on Krypton, and he is only as strong as any Kryptonian pretty boy.

 

Of course, it depends which Hulk we are talking about too. I am assuming we are talking about the savage green timebomb, who is well established as being really, really, strong.

 

Not mutant/super-powered? Well, there are lots of really strong guys. I mean, Cap is pretty strong, but he might be considered super-powered due to the old SSS/Vita-Ray treatment. Nuke was pretty strong.

 

But neither are as strong as the Hulk. And that was the question.

 

BTW, I refuse to take this topic overly seriously, as the upper limit for any characters strength is a plot device. Superman has run into stuff he is not strong enough to deal with, as has Thor, Hulk, etc. A few stories down the line, they can probably deal with someone/something stronger. It all depends what needs to happen for a good story.

 

But no other character emphateticly states it like the Green Goliath, or puts as much of his own personal identity into it as the savage Hulk. So he is the strongest one there is. I'm sure if Thor or Kal-El want to argue it with him, he'll rip their tongue out to prove his point.

[Guest Mr. Slim Citrus]

Gladiator is stronger than Hulk; his only limit is what he "thinks" he can do...

[Guest starvenger]

Whoever has the Infinity Gauntlet is probably the strongest character in any comic universe.

 

I agree with gthureson though - a character's strength is essentially another plot device for a writer to use if he so desires. In some cases - like Hulk and Superman - it's played up because that's one of the main foci of the character. For others - like Captain America - it's not, because that's not what you're looking for out of the character.

[Guest Pop Culture God]

Wait... I thought it was STRANGEST comic book character:

 

It's either The Spectre or The Living Tribunal.

 

The Doctor and Franklin Richards are close seconds.

[Guest Pop Culture God]

The Spectre has unlimited power from God, except he can't change the past, or see the future.

 

Living Tribunal makes sure the universes are in order correctly, and he can even destroy entire universes if he wishes.

 

Franklin Richards can create universes, the full extent of his power is unknown.

 

The Doctor has unlimited mystical power.

[Guest SupaTaft]

Not taking Franklin Richards into account (I no-sell Richards because I neglected to remember him), I am still going to say Thor.

 

Without the outside use of weapons/tools he is still the strongest.

 

When Thor enters into his warriors rage he is approximately 10 times stronger then he is when usual. Now the Hulk is a close second, due to the principle of "The madder Hulk gets, the stronger Hulk gets." If that is the case, then he could very well be the strongest character ever. Excepting of course for the fact that if someone could kill an unsuspecting Hulk when he was calm, so he wouldn't have the chance to get angry, his potential is void.

 

Galactus once admitted that Thor had greater power than he.

 

" The Spectre has unlimited power from God, except he can't change the past, or see the future."

 

Thor is a god.

 

And we are talking about comprehensional beings. Not the ones who actually cause the universe to function like the Living Tribunal.

 

Gladiator is not stronger than the Hulk necessarily. If for some reason Gladiator thought that he could be beaten by the Hulk, he would be beaten.

 

Superman is a puss. "Oh, lets fight for justice!" Bah! Lets fight for food! Thats the ticket!

 

-Taft

[Guest J*ingus]

I'd throw in a vote for Doomsday here. A guy so physically strong that Superman literally can't beat him, period. Supes always has to have massive outside help to put DD away for even a little while, despite the fact that DD's only power is ludicrously enhanced physical attributes.

[Guest Maven's Eyebrows]

How can you forget the Ultimate Warrior? Nothing matches the power of DESTRUCITY~!

[Guest Sassquatch]

In Superman #175, Superman defeated Doomsday on his own when Doomsday was Jokerized by the Joker and sent to attack Washington DC and Lex Luthor. Doomsday is just another body to add to the heap. It was a defining moment in Superman's career. He finally had closure.

[Guest Karnage]

How can you forget the Ultimate Warrior? Nothing matches the power of DESTRUCITY~!

Warrior's dad was god afterall. And he did do bondage with Santa.

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

No, the story with Thor is that he, like Odin are BENEATH the true "Divine Providence." In one of the Thor Annuals Odin says he only serves God.

 

Thus,

 

Spectre> Thor

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

Plus, since Thor would have to attack first since Spectre only attacks those who have caused evil, as soon as he struck Spectre, Spectre has God's permission to erase him from existence.

[Guest gthureson]

Well, hell, if we are going from 'strongest' to 'most cosmically powered', then why not simply throw Eternity into the mix.

 

One would think that the living embodiment of the freaking universe would have the ability to kick anythings ass if he/she truly felt a need to.

 

Or the Beyonder. What were the Beyonder's powers? Anything he felt like. How strong was he? As strong as he felt like being.

[Guest BA_Baracus]

Well...I think we can all assume that we're talking about how strong these guys are on earth.

 

I mean, maybe in some alternate galaxy or distant plant hero A can beat up hero B. That doesn't count.

 

Plus we're talking about strength here...not power. I would say Batman has power almost equal to Superman, but certainly not strength.

 

Like I said...there is basically no limit to Superman's strength. If the story requires it, there's nothing he can't lift, move or crush.