Guest razazteca Report post Posted October 2, 2002 ever notice that in some of the Musical movies such as: Grease West Side Story Breakin' 2 Electric Bagaloo Blues Brothers Moulin Rouge that people dance for no apperant reason? What is the deal with that? Well I saw Breakin' 2 Electric Bagaloo today on Starz which had a scene where the evil white man tried to bulldoze the building the Miracle so Turbo & Ozone and a cast of several extras decide to annoy the construction workers by dancing on the bulldozers and in the streets. In a SNL skit which mocks West Side Story, Norm McDonald is the leader of a gang, and tries to ambush the rival gang but his plans go wrong when Will Ferral starts singing "we are the Cobras" In the Blues Brothers, Jake & Elwood try to buy a keyboard or organ for the band and try to get a discount since they say its damage goods or out of key, so what happens Ray Charles starts playing and the whole city block of Harlem come out for a block party. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted October 2, 2002 That was Chicago, not Harlem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BorneAgain Report post Posted October 2, 2002 God I hate musicals. I'm sorry, but I refuse to believe that people suffering through pain and tragedy start singing. Suspension of believe is one thing, but geez. In fact I've only liked one musical ever and that's because it was funny, and that is South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted October 2, 2002 Well they are musicals so the dancing is sorta part of the genre so i don't see anything that strange about random dancing in musicals. Now if dancing suddenly broke out in the middle of a regular movie then it's a different story. Dancing suddenly breaking out during West Side Story isn't odd, but it would be for Silence of the Lambs. Lector suddenly breaking into song and dance while speaking of cannible stuff would be highly entertaining, but still strange and out of place. With that said I have no shame in proclaiming that i loved Moulin Rouge. yep...i admit it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest starvenger Report post Posted October 2, 2002 Now if dancing suddenly broke out in the middle of a regular movie then it's a different story. Like say, The Meaning of Life? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted October 2, 2002 Well I suppose. However that is a Monty Python so you have to expect the unexpected. Besides who am i to disrespect "Always Look on The Bright Side of Life" dooo dooo doo do Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kotzenjunge Report post Posted October 2, 2002 I can't stand musicals because for one I find it hard to believe people break into song and do it perfectly on the first shot. That's freestyling to a new level. Secondly, every single one of my friends seem to love them, and I have to hear these showtunes all day as well as praises for the shows on which they are sung. In the history of the planet, there have only been certain acceptable musicals: Mamma Mia(the ABBA~! musical) The In-the-works Kylie musical Pretty short list. I can only tolerate one opera, and that's not even a real opera. I'm talking about Tommy here. Fo sheez, Kotzenjunge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest starvenger Report post Posted October 2, 2002 Well I suppose. However that is a Monty Python so you have to expect the unexpected. Besides who am i to disrespect "Always Look on The Bright Side of Life" dooo dooo doo do Well yes, but that was Life of Brian, and they were on crosses. I was thinking more of "Every Sperm Is Sacred" since - even though it IS Monty Python - it's about the last thing you'd ever expect to have a musical number. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted October 2, 2002 They did "Always Look on the Bright Side of Life" in The Meaning of Life as well. It may be a odd topic to have a song and dance number over. However, it's kinda odd that you were surprised to see it come from them Monty Python boys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted October 2, 2002 The problem with West Side Story is its hard to believe that a gang street fight would spontaniously break out into a song thinking of Hannibal, would'nt it be funny if he started to sing "Closer" by NIN while stalking Claireese in Resevior Dogs, Mr Blond started to sing while torturing the cop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted October 2, 2002 God I hate musicals. I'm sorry, but I refuse to believe that people suffering through pain and tragedy start singing. Suspension of believe is one thing, but geez. In fact I've only liked one musical ever and that's because it was funny, and that is South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut How can you hate Little Shop of Horrors? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest starvenger Report post Posted October 2, 2002 It may be a odd topic to have a song and dance number over. However, it's kinda odd that you were surprised to see it come from them Monty Python boys. That's the funny thing. I really shouldn't have been surprised, yet I was. How can you hate Little Shop of Horrors? That was a fun movie. But then, I also enjoyed that episode of Head of the Class where Arvid starred as Seymour in the school production of Little Shop... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BorneAgain Report post Posted October 2, 2002 God I hate musicals. I'm sorry, but I refuse to believe that people suffering through pain and tragedy start singing. Suspension of believe is one thing, but geez. In fact I've only liked one musical ever and that's because it was funny, and that is South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut How can you hate Little Shop of Horrors? Holy crap I forgot about that one. Okay so that makes only two I like then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godthedog Report post Posted October 2, 2002 guys, EVERY SINGLE MOVIE EVER MADE requires some suspension of disbelief. movies (aside from documentaries) are artificial, that's their nature. people who grew up in the 90s are just more willing to suspend their disbelief for action movies & gangster movies than for musicals, because that's the way we're raised and we think it's "cool." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest C.H.U.D. Report post Posted October 3, 2002 The only musicals I own on DVD are Little Shop of Horrors, Nightmare Before Christmas and South Park. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest J*ingus Report post Posted October 3, 2002 Musicals are an evolved (and slightly bastardized) version of opera, in which singing was mandatory and dancing was commonplace. It evolved from a time in the Middle Ages when there were no clear lines separating music, dance, theater, and storytelling; they all mixed together. This survived all the way down to the musicals of today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted October 3, 2002 I find the most bastardized movie with a musical scene has to be the recent Romero & Juliet movie directed by Baz, the same person that directed Moulin Rouge. the scene that make no sense at all to me is the one with the black guy doing a RuPaul number of a 70s disco song in an open field. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DARRYLXWF Report post Posted October 3, 2002 Monty Python rocks, and I've always liked Singin' in the Rain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godthedog Report post Posted October 3, 2002 romeo & juliet...shudder... i ended up liking that movie, but only AFTER the story starting taking off. same with moulin rouge, the style was totally distracting and did absolutely nothing for the movie. the first halves of both were just atrocious, somebody needs to take away all baz's crack and teach him how to make an actual film and not a 2-hour music video. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest J*ingus Report post Posted October 3, 2002 I hated Romeo + Juliet, but absolutely loved Moulin Rouge. Weird, neh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted October 3, 2002 Eh, not really. Moulin Rouge was easily a superior movie to Romeo & Juliet. Also Moulin Rouge had better performances from it's actors than Romeo & Juliet had. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kotzenjunge Report post Posted October 3, 2002 Damn, I forgot Kylie was in Moulin Rouge. Okay, that's another that is okay in my book. Fo sheez, Kotzenjunge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest imajackoff? Report post Posted October 3, 2002 Saying you dont like musicals because people break into dance is like saying you dont like Kung fu movies cuz you dont like all the crazy fighting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted October 3, 2002 I had a General Music class back in 7th grade so I basically have seen every movie musical. Music Man was my favorite. Oklahoma and West Side Story are overall pretty good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted October 3, 2002 Kung Fu movies have a similiar problem with the sword play genre but thats another story...... Chinese Opera rules I think the reason Moulin Rouge is liked by some people is that is was a Musical Play to begin with, I bet you cant wait until Chicago comes out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jericholic82 Report post Posted October 4, 2002 hey this reminds me of the simpsons episode "all singing and dancing" (i think thats the title) where Homer rents a video thinking its a western shoot up movie cuz clint eastwood is in it, everyone breaks into song too funny, Paint your wagon lol then the one guy shows up homer thinks hes gonna shoot, instead starts singing "gonna paint that wagon, gonna paint it fine, gonna use oil-based pain, cuz the wood is pine" too funny especially the delivery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest starvenger Report post Posted October 4, 2002 Kung Fu movies have a similiar problem with the sword play genre but thats another story...... Chinese Opera rules You mean the wire swordplay set in one of the late dynasties? I suppose so. And Chinese Opera is pretty much on the same scale as other operas - you like it or you don't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CoreyLazarus416 Report post Posted October 4, 2002 I believe you've all left out the greatest musical ever made... Cannibal! The Musical HINT: If it involves Trey Parker, expect at least ONE musical number, and tons of great comedy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cabbageboy Report post Posted October 4, 2002 In the Ladies Man I remember being baffled at a music number that broke out with Will Farrell and the other jealous husbands that were after Leon. The best musicals to me are ones that have some logical basis for the singing and dancing. For example, the entire 1930s Busby Berkeley Warner Bros. cycle of musicals. Those are mainly "put on a show" musicals, and since the movies are about broadway shows it makes sense for music numbers to occur. Only the wild, cinematic numbers themselves require suspension of disbelief. Singin in the Rain makes sense because two of the main characters were vaudeville performers, hence they sing and dance for the hell of it....and also later on for a movie. I was always more perplexed by stuff like Wizard of Oz, which has maybe 2 songs. It's not really a musical but does have a stoppage of plot for song. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redbaron51 Report post Posted October 4, 2002 well musicals have to have fantasy in it, or else it wouldn't be a musical now would it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
