Guest BaldFish Posted October 4, 2002 Report Posted October 4, 2002 His promo on Angle was gold, though. "These shiny gold medals say I AM perfect." "That shiny bald head says you aren't." Thumbs up for recapping feud history.
LaParkaYourCar Posted October 4, 2002 Report Posted October 4, 2002 Ugh no Edge never needs to mention that again. He made Angle look like a jobber in that feud and bringing it up makes it worse.
Guest El Psycho Diablo Posted October 4, 2002 Report Posted October 4, 2002 I'll say this. I'll blame the writers for stupid shit before I blame a wrestler who likely has no influence.
LaParkaYourCar Posted October 4, 2002 Report Posted October 4, 2002 Wrestlers aren't robots. I don't mind Edge beating Angle in that feud so Edge didn't even have to argue that point. But he could have atleast had the sense to stop and say hey let Angle shine a little in this feud. From comments made about Vince in the past he seems like a guy that's willing to listen to the wrestlers on small things like that. And there are little things that are left up to the wrestlers to adlib or come up with in matches and stuff. It was those little things that hurt that feud.
Guest godthedog Posted October 4, 2002 Report Posted October 4, 2002 how did edge make angle look like a jobber? he lost the first match cleanly, & he won the second with a fluke roll-up.
Guest El Psycho Diablo Posted October 4, 2002 Report Posted October 4, 2002 Yeah..and guys who speak up promptly get buried. (See Hardy, Matt. Raven.)
LaParkaYourCar Posted October 4, 2002 Report Posted October 4, 2002 It wasn't the matches themselves it was the promos and the whole hair cutting thing. Edge treated Angle like he was out of his league the whole time. Â And you're right those who speak up do tend to get in trouble. But those guys were speaking up about a lot more than little things. Last I heard Matt Hardy spoke up against who was getting pushed.
Guest BaldFish Posted October 4, 2002 Report Posted October 4, 2002 Ugh no Edge never needs to mention that again. He made Angle look like a jobber in that feud and bringing it up makes it worse. That feud was gold for Edge, dude. It made him credible, at least in my eyes. Angle is basically untouchable--he's a heel version of the current Rock character. Puts over anyone, but will ALWAYS be available to use as a world title contender at any moment. Â That's why I disagree with Anglesault about Angle's buffoonery: they HAVE a credible guy in Angle, now they're setting him aside for the moment and trying to build up OTHER credible guys besides Angle and Taker--Lesnar, Edge, Benoit, Rey. That's why Smackdown is so watchable right now. Â Of course, as we all know, RAW's cHHHampion-caliber talent problems stem from certain politicians on the roster, who make the sHHHow almost totally unwatcHHHable. Booker and Van Dam, and at least one other guy (Bautista?) need to get up into those ranks, and fast, before RAW becomes a two-hour masturbation session for HHH. Â ::watches RAW:: Too late.
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Posted October 4, 2002 Report Posted October 4, 2002 Edge's promos always bury whoever he's facing. Â No wonder the WWE likes him so much.
Patty O'Green Posted October 4, 2002 Report Posted October 4, 2002 I'll do a half assed job of defending Christain seeing that he's my favorite wrestler. Â He's had some small character progression. He went from tag team champ to being jealous of Edge to being a cry baby to finally being a guy who hates America. He's still just a midcarder though. Â He has gotten wrose in the ring, but if I was part of a stable that was constantly getting beat up, I'd wrestle like shit to.
Guest El Psycho Diablo Posted October 4, 2002 Report Posted October 4, 2002 Christian bores me. Â At least Edge dosen't do every move from a reverse headlock.
LaParkaYourCar Posted October 4, 2002 Report Posted October 4, 2002 Yeah even I'm getting a little tired of Christian, but him doing his moves from the reverse headlock position argument is getting a little old too. What else do you have against him? Â I think I'm tired of him merely because he hasn't done much except with the UnAmericans.
Guest El Psycho Diablo Posted October 4, 2002 Report Posted October 4, 2002 His promos aren't all that much better than they're made out to be, especially on the IWC. Even his 'normal' promos come off whiny. Â His moveset lacks impact (and variety), but his finisher is better than the one Edge uses. Â His character isn't that swift. (I hate America. That is all.) Â He still comes off as a purely tag wrestler, and he didn't really click with Storm.
Guest CanadianChick Posted October 4, 2002 Report Posted October 4, 2002 Its a bit late, but what's up with people saying that Edge is a heat vacuum? Are you people deaf? His matches have plenty of heat.
LaParkaYourCar Posted October 4, 2002 Report Posted October 4, 2002 Its a bit late, but what's up with people saying that Edge is a heat vacuum? Are you people deaf? His matches have plenty of heat. Â Â Â Ugh........maybe we should define heat vaccum. It means he sucks his opponent's heat out....not his own!!!
Guest Banky Posted October 4, 2002 Report Posted October 4, 2002 Bps, how can you critisize Edge for not improving when your messiah (RVD) has been wrestling the same match since 1996. Â Edge gets unneccesary flack on here, and its because of the stubborness of certain posters who will NEVER except him as a good worker.
LaParkaYourCar Posted October 4, 2002 Report Posted October 4, 2002 Bps, how can you critisize Edge for not improving when your messiah (RVD) has been wrestling the same match since 1996. Â Riiiiiiight cause we all know RVD still stalls for 10 min and slips off everything. He hasn't improved at all. Â And I NEVER said Edge wasn't a good worker and neither did most people. It's the way he's booked and his promo skills most people talk about. Way to pay attention bud.
Guest CanadianChick Posted October 4, 2002 Report Posted October 4, 2002 Its a bit late, but what's up with people saying that Edge is a heat vacuum? Are you people deaf? His matches have plenty of heat. Â Â Â Ugh........maybe we should define heat vaccum. It means he sucks his opponent's heat out....not his own!!! Fine. I'm begging you to give me an example. Sounds to me his opponents get a fine amount of heat during their matches against Edge.
LaParkaYourCar Posted October 4, 2002 Report Posted October 4, 2002 Angle. That's what we've been saying. Angle's the most over heel in the business but when put agains Edge. Edge had to make him out to be just another dork.
Guest Brian Posted October 4, 2002 Report Posted October 4, 2002 It's the same match...forced into less time. Less time for stalling, and less spots to hit. He has however gotten crisper at hitting his moves.
Guest Banky Posted October 4, 2002 Report Posted October 4, 2002 Actually bps seemed pretty adament that he didn't think Edge was very good at all. And I think Edge, as a worker, is light years ahead of RVD. I'd say he is much better at promos as well. If only Edge could do the splits and do moonsaults - he'd me a smarks wet dream.
LaParkaYourCar Posted October 4, 2002 Report Posted October 4, 2002 With the matches Edge has put on the last two weeks if Edge could set his spear back to being a set up for his finisher, give some more props to his opponents, and put a little.....dare I say it....edge to his character......he might very well be the Smark's new wet dream.
Guest CanadianChick Posted October 4, 2002 Report Posted October 4, 2002 Angle. That's what we've been saying. Angle's the most over heel in the business but when put agains Edge. Edge had to make him out to be just another dork. I don't feel like argueing whether Angle was made to look bad in that feud, but I will say this: Angle's heat was as strong as ever during Edge's feud, so Edge didn't affect his heat, did he?
Guest CanadianChick Posted October 4, 2002 Report Posted October 4, 2002 I am going to agree with the majority by saying that Edge does need an "edge" to his character
LaParkaYourCar Posted October 4, 2002 Report Posted October 4, 2002 I think it was mostly the marks. If you had went up to a mark after that feud and asked them about Angle they looked at him as a loser and could care less of his skills. Even the marks can usually see that Angle is one of the best, but after that feud a lot of them really thought he wasn't even near Edge's league. Â Â wait did I just call a man a wet dream? *runs off screaming*
Guest CanadianChick Posted October 4, 2002 Report Posted October 4, 2002 But Angle's heat was just fine after that feud, Anyways, he beat Hogan after that feud,so I think that he got his "heat" back
LaParkaYourCar Posted October 4, 2002 Report Posted October 4, 2002 Yeah I think I'm going to lay off Edge a little. There's bigger fish to fry. coughHHHcough.
Guest CanadianChick Posted October 4, 2002 Report Posted October 4, 2002 Yeah I think I'm going to lay off Edge a little. There's bigger fish to fry. coughHHHcough. Good enough for me. Hey, being an Edgehead is hard, but being a HHH mark is even harder
Guest CanadianChick Posted October 4, 2002 Report Posted October 4, 2002 No I mean for the HHH marks. Please do not associate me with liking HHH.
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