Guest nikowwf Report post Posted October 4, 2002 I was thinking about the PPV, and how it should be a good one. However, all my interest is on the Smackdown side. HHH has killed the raw side. Consider this.... 1) HHH doesn't want to fight RVD anymore, so RVD is moved to HHH's manager Ric Flair. So we have (most likely) crappy match #1. Either that, or RVD will not even get a PPV match. 2) HHH needs to be in higher profile match, so he gets a unification bout. SO Jericho loses his title. So Jericho / Booker (if it comes off) will be for NOTHING. Just a match for their intense hatred built up over, what 2 weeks? 3) HHH needs a new opponent. Bubba, his hand picked slug is not good. So we get Kane. Crappy match #2. Instead of maybe HHH vs. RVD, Jericho vs. Booker for IC title and HurriKane vs. someone at the PPV we get two crappy matches and a Booker vs. Jericho match much lower on the card. And if you think about it, the positions RVD, Booker and Jericho have been placed in guarantee they will not be elevated at all on the PPV, and will not be ready to challenge THE LAME in november at survivor series. He really is a cancer killing the show. Niko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evilhomer Report post Posted October 4, 2002 Based on the shitting booking that we've seen in recent months (years), I wouldn't hold HHH totally responsible for this mess. But yeah, this booking has taken a show with great potential and turned it into one of my least anticipated of the year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted October 4, 2002 I agree...a WELL BOOKED HHH/RVD feud could be just what the WWE needs to get out of a funk...alas, they suffer from stupid these days, so you get HHH/Kane which no one wants to see, and RVD/Flair which few want to see... I guess RVD was getting too nig for his own good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest humongous2002 Report post Posted October 4, 2002 Who wants to see RVD/Fair on ppv??? I doubt anyone even wants to see that on RAW, thanks to theLame the RAW side is suffering a lot, why isn't Vince concerned about the show that he created and made him into a billionare?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted October 4, 2002 Vince needs to realize that HHH just isn't over as he use to be...that injury completly killed him momentum, and coming back as a face and turning heel doesn't mean he's the top guy anymore...Rico gets booed more, RICO! I have no problem with HHH being the top guy, as long as the fans respond to him as a top guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nikowwf Report post Posted October 4, 2002 Even better point i have House Show main events as of yesterday were changed to RVD vs. HHH. SOOOO, HHH vs. Kane can't headline a damn house show but its the co main event of the PPV? jeez Niko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted October 4, 2002 Probably praying that the words "Hell in a Cell" alone drag them in...cause Hunter/Kane isn't doing it these days Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cabbageboy Report post Posted October 4, 2002 See, this whole HHH/Kane thing is a mere time waster that is being done literally so HHH can get a job back from a PPV that no one gave a shit about when it happened. I mean, if Kane actually wins that match my jaw will hit the floor....then I'll wonder why the FUCK they would give Kane the tag, IC, and world titles in the span of a month. Unless he jobs the tag (or rather HURRICANE jobs the tag) before the PPV. Bubba was going to be the chosen jobber to HHH at this PPV but fans at house shows reacted so badly to it that they scrapped those plans. I disagree with the thought that RVD won't be ready for a rematch. I figure the Flair thing is the usual "face beats up the guy who cost him the title match, then gears up for the champ" deal. It's a match I don't especially wanna see but considering that Flair has now cost RVD the title TWICE (remember Flair restarted the UT/RVD match) RVD should kick his ass at some lame PPV and then go about his business. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest oldschoolwrestling Report post Posted October 4, 2002 How long before HHH decides he wants to be on the better show and convinces Vince to send him there to feud with Steph, again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FeArHaVoC Report post Posted October 4, 2002 I'm constantly amazed at the number of HHH Marks on this board. You guys spend like, 90% of your time obsessing over his every move and action. Sure, you CLAIM to hate him, but hey, I hate the Big Show, and I don't spend all my time making up Crackfiend conspiracy theories about him, photoshoping huge pointless .sig files files of him, or basically turning my every post into a Big Show shrine. Big Show isn't in every other segment, pushed to the Moon, and doesn't hold back others now does he? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dale Newstead Report post Posted October 4, 2002 I'm constantly amazed at the number of HHH Marks on this board. You guys spend like, 90% of your time obsessing over his every move and action. Sure, you CLAIM to hate him, but hey, I hate the Big Show, and I don't spend all my time making up Crackfiend conspiracy theories about him, photoshoping huge pointless .sig files files of him, or basically turning my every post into a Big Show shrine. Big Show isn't in every other segment, pushed to the Moon, and doesn't hold back others now does he? I agree with this quote precisely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted October 5, 2002 Another person in denial. No matter how much shit is shoved on some peoples faces, they are simply too stupid to realize that something stinks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest YOUSUCK Report post Posted October 5, 2002 bps21, I must say one thing I like the Raw show and as I can see out of you, so do you. I look at it this way. Who cares how bad Raw or Smackdown is, simple fact is, they are meant to entertain us and on a two bit forum like this one I doubt anything will ever be solved. No offense to anyone, but it is how I feel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Luchadore Magnifico Report post Posted October 5, 2002 How long before HHH decides he wants to be on the better show and convinces Vince to send him there to feud with Steph, again? Yeah, like he'd be willing to admit that the show he's on is inferior. Anyway, it is pretty ridiculous what RAW has come up with for No Mercy; I mean, Booker/Jericho will be good, but ultimately meaningless, as HHH and Kane wrestle a craptastic match for the "World" Title. Super. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 5, 2002 bps21, I must say one thing I like the Raw show and as I can see out of you, so do you. I look at it this way. Who cares how bad Raw or Smackdown is, simple fact is, they are meant to entertain us and on a two bit forum like this one I doubt anything will ever be solved. No offense to anyone, but it is how I feel. So, since they are meant to entertain us...we must be entertained? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kingpk Report post Posted October 5, 2002 bps21, I must say one thing I like the Raw show and as I can see out of you, so do you. I look at it this way. Who cares how bad Raw or Smackdown is, simple fact is, they are meant to entertain us and on a two bit forum like this one I doubt anything will ever be solved. No offense to anyone, but it is how I feel. Hi JR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MarvinisaLunatic Report post Posted October 5, 2002 I for one would rather see Kane vs HHH than Buh Buh vs HHH. And if you have Kane vs Test at No Mercy, then then you can have RVD vs HHH at Survivor Series which is one of the big PPVs of the year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JasonX 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2002 How long before HHH decides he wants to be on the better show and convinces Vince to send him there to feud with Steph, again? If HHH makes a move to SD, he'll be admitting to the world that he can't draw shit in the ratings and kill off the illusion of him being the company's top draw. Plus, he's got the whole reunification thing in the works where he squashes Brock Lesner and reunifies the belts to look forward to (all the talk of Angle being groomed as the guy to beat Brock is bullshit) and he's got card blanche over the booking of Raw. As far as HHH is concerned, better to reign in hell with knowledge that you'll get about 7 years of total mastery of Earth and every living thing on the planet than to be just another cog in Heaven where you have a higher authority looking over you and bugging you about what you can or can't do because it interfers in another guy (Undertaker)'s agenda... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted October 5, 2002 now would be a good time to review the bps plan for recovery. Step 1: Fire HHH and Taker Months go by, and my first step in the plan only finds more and more evidence to support it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Human Fly Report post Posted October 5, 2002 Step 1: Fire HHH and Taker Vince wouldn't have to do that if he would realize that it's his company and he really does run it. Then he could actually use them for something of worth.....jobbing. If not then fire them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jobber of the Week Report post Posted October 5, 2002 (Off-Topic post) I just noticed that the criticism post I see quoted is not here. Did the poster delete the post or did a mod do it and ban him or something? I ask because I have a reputation of trying to get the HHH Bashing Crew to calm down or stop talking about it so much. Yes, we know what you think, and the majority agree with you, blah blah blah. Now don't dwell on it. I'm just curious if dissenting opinions are not allowed here? I can understand outright trolls like that guy who went on a JR like rant about how America loves the Hoss. I just notice most the "I don't think HHH is THAT terrible" posts always are either gone or posted by a red name, and that kind of makes me fear for my survival here. EDIT: Which is not to say that I believe that HHH is god or anything, but on a board with no Ignore function I can't stand how every other post is about him. The guy just doesn't deserve that much attention, IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted October 5, 2002 I believe that HHH has slid in to the most Premier Spot of Power in his WWE career, not just Steph's involvement but the fact Vince still seems out of it over Austin. Things have gone so downhill thanks to Austin's pouting and walking out. It could mean Vince has less and less input he made in his product and basically rubberstamped any suggestions HHH or others had without really putting in his own personal Opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted October 5, 2002 I don't mind HHH as top guy - he *is* a top guy. However, I do not like the Wwf sacrificing everyone on their roster to make him strong. And the fact that he won't EVER return that investment (not in ratings, not in buyrates, and certainly not in putting over a new comer who needs a win or the 'next big thing' (wink) just makes it all the more wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nater Report post Posted October 5, 2002 I used to mark out like a 12 year old girl at a Justin Timberlake concert for HHH before he broke down. BUT now with all this garbage and total misuse of talent to put over somebody who is no longer INTENSE~(dead horse). I can see HHH handing Kane the belt just to watch him point and laugh at somebody who's gonna get stale in 2 weeks.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2002 I think they took the quote from another thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FeArHaVoC Report post Posted October 5, 2002 No Sir. That quote was from this tread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest humongous2002 Report post Posted October 5, 2002 If RAW is suppose to entertain us , why it hasn't done that since Summerslam?The wrong people getting the big push, the hard workers getting buried and bad storylines is not my idea of entertainment, who's booking this shit???Nash?????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dale Newstead Report post Posted October 5, 2002 The reason HHH is given so much attention is because he's all over the show. It's a little hard to watch a product you want to be loyal to when the same guy is in every segment and he's not entertaining anymore. It's one thing to shove a new guy down our throats because that's the way to get the young blood over, but when it's someone who's already been shoved down our throats (1999 and 2000 for those folks with bad memories) it's tedious and pointless. I also hate how J.R. keeps saying he has the mind of Harley Race and the technical skill of Jack Brisco. J.R., get your chud dick out of Paul's ass, he couldn't lace a legend's boot on his best day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2002 Where'd that quote go then? It's like his whole post was "erased from existence" (said in Christopher Lloyd voice) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Chuck Woolery Report post Posted October 5, 2002 I for one would rather see Kane vs HHH than Buh Buh vs HHH. And if you have Kane vs Test at No Mercy, then then you can have RVD vs HHH at Survivor Series which is one of the big PPVs of the year. Forgive me, but fucking OUCH. Mistaking HHH for Test and vice versa is a bad sign. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites