Secret of Angle's success

[Guest gusmahler]

What is the secret behind Angle's success? Within a year, he became champion. That is easy to explain: he was pushed that way. But why did they push him so hard? What makes him different from people like Edge and Christian that he deserves such a push so early in his career?

 

Also, many (including Meltzer?) believe that Angle is probably the best in-ring performer today, short of Benoit. How could he get so good so fast? I realize he is a great athelete (Olympian), but so are most WWF performers (e.g., many collegiate atheletes).  Obviously, he has a great work ethic, is that all?

 

My own theories:

* Olympic gold medalist: This gimmick is priceless, as no other gold medalist has ever been a professional wrestler (according to Angle's book, pro wrestling is looked down upon by amateur wrestlers, leading to very few successful amateurs turning pro). A once in a lifetime opportunity that the WWF was smart to capitilize on, as Gold Medalists don't just pop into the WWF every day.

 

* innate charisma: you can't teach charisma (ask Steve Blackman). However, others, like Edge and Christian, haven't even got a real chance to show their charisma and mic skills (and what they have shown isn't that bad), but Angle did get an opportunity, seemingly from the very start.

 

* company player: does what the WWF wants to do. Never heard of any backstage problems with him.  

 

* age: since he started at the age of 30, the WWF had to realize that his push had to come sooner rather than later. *

 

* Upcoming Olympics: While people like Randy Orton and Brock Lesnar seem to be stuck in the developmental areas for a long time, The Olympics were coming in 2000.  If the WWF waited too long, Angle wouldn't be the reigning Olympic champion when he started; the WWF had to push him early to have an effect.

 

Whatever the reason for the initial push, it seems like Angle has taken the ball and driven down the field with it, with nary a hitch.

[Guest Goldust]

The Bizarre One is enjoying his Xbox.

 

[Guest El Luchadore Magnifico]

I definitely agree with the points you made, Gus, but there are other things that helped Angle as well. Like the fact that the WWF took a chance on pushing him as a heel, even though he was supposed to be an "American Hero".

 

Also, he had "the look". He's strong, big, and quick; pretty much the total package. It would have been hard for him not to get over.

[Guest Repo Man jr]

I agree too, although I'm not sure why Goldust is enjoying his X-Box?

[Guest dreamer420]

Don't forget that in one year he was all ready at the top of the business as far as talent is concerned.

[Guest Mystery Eskimo]

I'd say he, Benoit and Austin are the best wrestlers in the WWF right now. And the scary thing is Angle can only get better. With experience added to his talent he could become a legend.

[Guest Brian]

Angle got good because he was determined, willing, and hard working. He trained hard, wrestled a year of dark matches while still training, and in the WWF's view once he had the mic skills, the charisma, and natural talent were there warranting a push since he was a homegrown talent. I wouldn't go as far as Meltz, but he's definately top five in the WWF who gets TV time.

[Guest dreamer420]

Does anyone else think that by the time Kurt Angle's career is over he'll be in the same class and compared to Ric Flair?  Flair could even help him with his game and imagine how much better he would be then.

[Guest Red Hot Thumbtack In The Eye]

Kurt Angle is nothing short of a truly special talent.

 

Sure his previous olympic experience and whatnot helped him, but he is one of those kind of workers that comes around once a generation, if that. Unless he get injured or meltsdown, he will end up becoming a true legend in the sport.

[Guest The Electrifyer]

I heard Angle is in his thirties too. They probably also pushed him because they don't want a 40 year old Angle as champ too.

[Guest Anglesault]

It doesn't matter now. The WWF is burying Kurt. Fucking Kane.

[Guest Some Guy]

First off Angle has carried Knae to the best matches of Kane's career, so the match won't be terrible and is not burying him, if anything it might be a good thing for his career if he gets a convincing win.  I wish he were wrestling someone else, but he's not and bitching about it isn't going to change that.

 

Angle got pushed because he has so much talent that it would have been impossible not to push him.  He is easily the best all around talent to come into the WWF in years.  He is the best worker and almost the best talker in the promotion and he has an Olympic gold medal.  How do you not push the guy?

[Guest Anglesault]

First off Angle has carried Knae to the best matches of Kane's career, so the match won't be terrible and is not burying him, if anything it might be a good thing for his career if he gets a convincing win.  I wish he were wrestling someone else, but he's not and bitching about it isn't going to change that.

I don't care if Kurt can drag a match out of Kane. Kane is a weak ass mid carder. This is a HUGE demotion for Kurt. And Kurt has THREE convincing wins over Kane. He doesn't need anymore, especially since a win over Kane means nothing, and a loss to him is a career killer.

[Guest dreamer420]

Do your lips ever get chapped from kissing Kurt Angle's ass all the time?

[Guest RetroRob215]

How is Angle fighting Kane a demotion?  He hasn't main evented a PPV since No Mercy nor has he won the WWF title since September.  Angle, for the time being, is an upper-mid-carder.  Kane is also an upper-mid-carder, whether you want to believe or not.

[Guest Anglesault]

Is it wrong to be a fan of someone and want them to do well?

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

Angle success is strange.  He is a good wrestler, but there are plenty of good wrestlers (ex. Lance Storm) who are going nowhere.  His gimmick coming in was excellent.  Had he been pushed like Mark Henry (All-American Hero), he probably would have gotten X-Pac heat.

 

In real-life Angle has the charisma of a brick wall (look at his failed stint as a sports announcer), but for some reason he can make it really work when he is in the WWF.  What very likely should have been his weak point is the reason he got pushed so quickly.  I haven't seen someone become hated by the crowd so quickly at the bottom of the card since Mr. Perfect first joined the WWF in 1988.  The crowd absolutely hated Angle when he first appeared, and that is why he was pushed.

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

kurt angle was so succsessfull so fast because anglesault is really an oil tycoon and bribed vince to push kurt to the moon.

[Guest Anglesault]

kurt angle was so succsessfull so fast because anglesault is really an oil tycoon

 

Don't ever call be a redneck again.

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

many apalogies but maybe we should start calling you good ol' anglesault?

[Guest Anglesault]

I am a proud New Yorker, and I am offended by southern comparisons. I do not, nor have I ever, eaten skunk.

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

really? i didn't know there was a new york in texas. but i better shut up before anglesault sends his hired goons after me. i can see it now.........

 

*time for a what if moment*

 

*knock knock*

Cobainwasmurdered: who's there, eh?

Goons:  Goons

Cobainwasmurdered: Who?

Goons: Hired Goons

Cobainwasmurdered: I should never have mocked (good ol') anglesault.

 

 

*end what if moment*

[Guest Anglesault]

Why would I have hired goons?

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

it was a "what if moment" just like wwf booking it doesn't have to make sense. and yes i know i'd be a perfect fit for the current wwf booking team.

[Guest One Bad Apple]

* innate charisma: you can't teach charisma (ask Steve Blackman). However, others, like Edge and Christian, haven't even got a real chance to show their charisma and mic skills (and what they have shown isn't that bad), but Angle did get an opportunity, seemingly from the very start.

Edge and Christian haven't gotten a chance to show off their charisma and mike skills? What the heck?

 

 

It doesn't matter now. The WWF is burying Kurt. Fucking Kane.

 

Fucking baby.

 

Kane is a weak ass mid carder. This is a HUGE demotion for Kurt.

 

Well, Austin has to fight Scott Hall at WrestleMania. I don't have a problem with it, but I'd consider that to be a big demotion, even with Hall being nWo. Of course, it's Austin, not Kurt. I mean, as long as your hero gets the big storylines and the big feuds, who cares if they decide it'd be a good idea to have Rock run a program with Crash Holly?

 

And Kurt has THREE convincing wins over Kane.

 

Good, that could mean Kane will beat his ass and make you cry. Hopefully Kurt will tap to his own move!

 

He doesn't need anymore, especially since a win over Kane means nothing, and a loss to him is a career killer.

 

Austin has lost to Kane. Triple H has lost to Kane. The Rock has lost to Kane, I believe. Their careers seem to be doing pretty well.

 

There's not one wrestler in the company who could kill Angle's career by beating him. Even losing to Lita, clean. That would hurt a lot, yes ... but in a few months, I think he'd be back on his feet.

 

 

In real-life Angle has the charisma of a brick wall (look at his failed stint as a sports announcer), but for some reason he can make it really work when he is in the WWF.

 

Yeah, I noticed that he only seems to have a charisma for  being obnoxious and getting people to dislike him. Trying to get people to like him is a different story, as evidenced by his terribly fagacious run as a good guy and the not-so-nice things I've heard said about his announcing tenure. How long did he do that for, anyway?

 

 

*knock knock*

Cobainwasmurdered: who's there, eh?

Goons:  Goons

Cobainwasmurdered: Who?

Goons: Hired Goons

Cobainwasmurdered: I should never have mocked (good ol') anglesault.

 

What a joke! I've written more entertaining skits in my sleep!

[Guest the jesuit pig]

Is that last post fucked up with alot of black in it for anyone else?

 

As for Angle's success, it's got to be the roids.

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

Yeah, but everybody is on the roids, so it has to be more than that.

 

BTW, that post is screwed up for me too.

[Guest the jesuit pig]

That's why I think Angle should consider not going Olypimic again. What they bring up how he looked in the WWF? The roids thing will be obvious n if they can't prove it.

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

Angle would be foolish to try for the Olympics again.  What more does he have to prove?  And he hasn't wrestled in 6 years, he would just embarrass himself.

[Guest Annoyed Grunt]

He doesn't need anymore, especially since a win over Kane means nothing, and a loss to him is a career killer.

Foley, Jericho, HHH and Austin all lost to Kane in the past.  Everyone of those guys won the world title after their career was 'killed'.  HHH is the exception, but just wait a couple weeks.