Guest slabinskia Report post Posted February 28, 2002 im going to be making a top 20 wwf matches of the 90s comp as well as a top 20 wcw matches of the 90s comp. what matches should go on them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted February 28, 2002 bret vs. owen, the opener match at one of the ppv's. austin vs. HHH, best of three falls austin vs. bret, WM13 flair vs. vader, um....(little help?) bret vs. shawn, ironman (aquired taste) HBK vs. Razor Ramon, ladder matches (both of them) that's all off the top of my head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted February 28, 2002 Austin vs. HHH was in 2001 so it gets disqualified. I would put on the two Austin/Hart matches, as well as Bret/Owen, Hogan/Warrior, HBK/Razor ladder matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Army Eye Report post Posted February 28, 2002 Here's some to get things started WWF ----- Shawn Michaels vs. Undertaker - Badd Blood '97 Shawn Michaels vs. Mankind - Mind Games '96 Steve Austin vs. Bret Hart - Wrestlemania XIII and Survivor Series '96 either of the Michaels/Razor ladder matches Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart - Wrestlemania X Shawn Michaels vs. Jeff Jarrett - In Your House 2 WCW ---- Chris Benoit vs. Raven - Souled Out '98 Eddy Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio - Halloween Havoc '97 Chris Benoit vs. Bret Hart - some Nitro in '99(?) Rey Mysterio vs. Psychosis - BATB '96 Jushin Liger vs. Brian Pillman - Superbrawl '92 Chris Benoit vs. Dean Malenko - Road Wild '96 cobain, Austin vs. HHH 3 falls was not in the 90s Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted February 28, 2002 oops thanks for catching me on the austin match. oh and how about savage vs. warrior that was actually a really great match and made savage go froma heel into one of the biggest faces. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mystery Eskimo Report post Posted February 28, 2002 Davey Boy/Owen, final of European Championships Benoit/Malenko, Hog Wild Are my favourite WWF and WCW matches of the 90s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tony149 Report post Posted February 28, 2002 You have to put War Games 1992 from WCW Wrestle War '92 on there. Great match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest HellSpawn Report post Posted February 28, 2002 HBK vs Taker, Hell in a Cell HBK vs Mankind, Mind Games HBK vs Razor, WM X Owen Hart vs Bret Hart, WM X Davey Boy vs Owen, European belt final Hitman vs Piper, WM VIII, Emotional value Hart vs HBK, Ironman, WM XII (aquired taste, agreed) Hitman vs Austin, both SurSer96 & WM XIII Austin vs Mankind, Unforgiven 98 Hardys vs E & C, No Mercy (Oct.99) I need some time, but maybe you can check SK list and get a few more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest slabinskia Report post Posted February 28, 2002 my answer to my post. it was tough to leave out some of the matches but here is my opinion wwf 20.bret-undertaker one night only very underrated 19.hbk/austin-owen/buldog raw 5/26/97 18.bret-buldog ss92 overrated imo but still belongs in the top 20 17.hbk/deisel-123 kid/razor ramon action zone 94 few will agree with me here. 16. bret-piper wm8 15.bret-owen wm10 another overrated match imo but still great 14. savage-warriar wm7 prabably warriars only great match 13. hbk-razor ramon ss95 12 bret-perfect ss91 11 flair-savage wm8 10. 10 man tag canadian stampede 9. hbk-deisel iyh april 96 8. bret-taker-austin-vader final four 7. flair-bret ironman match 1/93 6. rumble 92 5. hbk-taker bad blood 4. hbk-mankind mindgames 3. bret-austin ss96 2. hbk-razor ramon wm10 1.bret-austin wm13 honorable mentions that i couldnt put before any of these are hbk-marty janetty raw 93 hhh-rock ss98 hbk-taker rumble 98 austin-foley over the edge 98 hardys-christian/edge no mercy 99 bret-owen ss94 i will post my wcw matches later Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest pochorenella Report post Posted February 28, 2002 Shawn vs UT HIC is the best match I've ever seen and should be obligatory on your comp. Nobody's mentioned Bret vs Bulldog from SummerSlam 92. Shawn vs Diesel IYH is a kickass match. Savage vs Warrior from WM VII is a must have. I think Hardyz vs E/C from No Mercy 99 also qualifies. I'm sure I'm missing some others that haven't been mentioned yet. Peace. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted February 28, 2002 I completed a WWF comp earlier this year courtesy of the voting at http://deathvalleydriver.com These matches were on it: 1) Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart - WrestleMania X (3/20/94) - 975 Points (13-9-8) 2) Shawn Michaels vs. Razor Ramon - WrestleMania X (3/20/94 – Ladder Match, IC Title) - 834 Points (10-8-7) 3) Steve Austin vs. Bret Hart - WrestleMania XIII (3/23/97 – I Quit Match) - 776 Points (9-9-5) 4) Shawn Michaels vs. Razor Ramon - SummerSlam ‘95 (8/27/95 – Ladder Match, IC Title) - 469 Points (2-3-2) 5) Shawn Michaels vs. Mankind - Mind Games 1996 (9/22/96 – World Title Match) - 412 Points (0-1-2) 6) Shawn Michaels vs. Undertaker - In Your House: Badd Blood 1997 (10/5/97 - Hell in a Cell) - 397 Points (0-1-3) 7) Bret Hart vs. Davey Boy Smith - SummerSlam ‘92 (8/29/92 – IC Match) - 341 Points (3-0-0) 8) Steve Austin vs. Bret Hart - Survivor Series ‘96 (11/17/96 )- 328 Points (0-0-1) 9) Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart – Summerslam ‘94 (8/29/94 – Cage Match) - 324 Points (1-0-5) 10) Shawn Michaels vs. Bret Hart - Wrestlemania XII (3/31/96 - Iron Man, World Title) - 303 Points (2-1-2) 11) Hardy Boyz vs. Edge/Christian – No Mercy '99 (10/17/99 – Ladder Match) - 297 Points (0-1-1) 12) Steve Austin vs. Dude Love - Over the Edge 1998 (5/21/98 – World Title Match) - 261 Points (0-1-0) 13) Bret Hart vs. Curt Hennig - SummerSlam ‘91 (8/26/91 – IC Match) - 252 Points (0-2-0) 14) Davey Boy Smith vs. Owen Hart - WWF RAW 3/97 (2/6/97 – Euro Tourney Finals) - 249 Points (0-2-0) 15) B. Hart/O. Hart/Bulldog/Pillman/Neidhart vs. Austin/Animal/Hawk/Shamrock/Golddust - In Your House: Canadian Stampede (7/6/97) - 236 Points (0-1-1) 16) Royal Rumble Match 1992 (1/19/92 - Winner wins WWF Title) - 234 Points (0-0-0) 17) Bret Hart vs. Davey Boy Smith – In Your House 5 (12/17/95) - 218 Points (1-1-0) 18) Ric Flair vs. Randy Savage - WrestleMania VIII (4/5/92 – World Title Match) - 181 Points (0-1-0) 19) Owen & Bret Hart v. Rick & Scott Steiner – Wrestlefest ’94 (1/11/94) - 179 Points (0-0-1) 20) Shawn Michaels vs. Diesel - In Your House: Good Friends, Better Enemies (4/29/96 - World Title) - 178 Points (0-0-0) They also have a WCW list if you want to take a crack at that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss4Words Report post Posted February 28, 2002 It's just my opinion, but I guess I don't see a point in making a comp of PPV matches since they aren't really rare. I think comps are best when they include TV matches and handhelds and stuff like that just because anyone can find any PPV match quite easily. Oh well, it's not my comp, it's yours, so do it however you want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zack Malibu Report post Posted February 28, 2002 As far as WCW goes: Hollywood Blondes vs. Ricky Steamboat/Shane Douglas (Blondes win Titles...Worldwide '93) Chris Benoit vs. 2 Cold Scorpio (Superbrawl 3) Cactus Jack/Maxx Payne vs. The Nasty Boys Cactus Jack/Kevin Sullivan vs. The Nasty Boys Brian Pillman vs.Johnny B Badd (Fall Brawl 95) Malenko vs. Mysterio (Havoc 96) WWF: Shawn Michaels/Diesel vs. 123 Kid/Razor Ramon (Action Zone, 1994) 123 Kid vs. Bret Hart (RAW, 1994) Diesel vs. Michaels (Good Friends, Better Enemies 96) Rock/Mankind/Shamrock Steel Cage Match (Breakdown 98) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CB2M Report post Posted February 28, 2002 Shawn vs UT HIC is the best match I've ever seen and should be obligatory on your comp. That wasn't even the best U.S. match that month....Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Eddy Guerrero from Havoc '97 is way better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest slabinskia Report post Posted March 1, 2002 my wcw top 20. i never saw rey jr-eddy from havoc 97 so i couldnt include it 20. dean malenko-rey mysterio jr havoc 96 19. dean malenko-chris benoit hog wild 96 18. jushin liger-brian pilman superbrawl 2 17. flair-vader starcade 93 16. flair-steamboat wcwsn may 94 15. flair-sting clash of champions june 94 14. cactus jack-vader havoc 93 13. sting/luger-steiners superbrawl 1 12. wargames 91 11. blitzkreig-juvy spring stampede 99 10. steiners-fujinami/? wrestlewar 92 9. benoit-kevin sullivan great american bash 96 8. nasty boys-cactus jack/max payne spring stampede 94 7. sting-vader great american bash 92 6. flair-steamboat spring stampede 94 5. nasty boys-cactus jack/kevin sullivan 4. steamboat-rude beach blast 92 3. wargames 92 2. bret-benoit nitro 10/4/99 1. rey mysterio jr-psichosis bash at the beach 96 honorable mentions that i really wanted to include southern boys-midnight express gab 90 sting-cactus jack beach blast 92 flair/arn-hollywood blondes clash june 93 regal-finley uncensored 96 benoit/malenko-raven/saturn spring stampede 99 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Austin3164life Report post Posted March 1, 2002 The 10 best matches in the WWF throughout the entire ninetees, IMO, would have to be these classics..... 1. Austin vs. Bret (WM 13) 2. Bret vs. Owen (WM 10) 3. Shawn vs. Razor (WM 10) 4. Austin vs. Bret (SS 96) 5. Bret vs. Owen (SS 94) 6. Owen vs. Bulldog (First Euro Title Match, 97) 7. Austin/HBK vs. Owen/Bulldog (May 97) 8. Shawn vs. Razor (SS 95) 9. Royal Rumble 1992 10. The Hart Foundation vs. Austin/LOD/Shamrock/Goldust (CS 97) It's obvious from the list that the four best wrestlers of the 90's were Austin, Bret, Shawn, and Owen. All these men were involved in the best matches of the 90's IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted March 1, 2002 In no particular order, the twenty best WCW/WWF matches in the 90s. If two guys faced each other several times, I chose the best one for more variety. 1. Ultimate Warrior vs. Randy Savage (Wrestlemania VII) 2. Royal Rumble 1992 3. War Games 1992 4. Bret Hart vs. British Bulldog (Summerslam 1992) 5. Bret Hart vs. Mr. Perfect (King of the Ring 1993) 6. Ricky Steamboat vs. Ric Flair (WCW Saturday Night) 7. Shawn Michaels vs. Razor Ramon (Wrestlemania X) 8. Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart (Wrestlemania X) 9. Bret Hart vs. Steve Austin (Wrestlemania XIII) 10. Shawn Michaels vs. Mankind (War Games) 11. Shawn Michaels vs. Undertaker (Badd Blood) 12. Ten Man Tag (Canadian Stampede) 13. Cactus Jack & Kevin Sullivan vs. Nasty Boys (Slamboree 1994) 14. Eddy Guerrero vs. Rey Misterio Jr. (Halloween Havoc 1997) 15. Midnight Express vs. Southern Boys (Great American Bash 1990) 16. Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels (Wrestlemania XII) 17. Wargames 1991 18. Bret Hart vs. Chris Benoit (Monday Nitro, Owen Hart Memorial) 19. Ric Flair vs. Vader (Starrcade 1993) 20. Chris Benoit vs. Dean Malenko (Hog Wild) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JaKyL25 Report post Posted March 1, 2002 Here are my 20 favorite WWF matches of the 90s. I won't do a WCW seeing as how I didn't start watching them until 94, and apparantly I missed some good stuff. Chronological Order: 1.) Bret vs. Perfect, Summerslam 91 2.) Royal Rumble, Royal Rumble 92 3.) Bret vs. Bulldog, Summerslam 92 4.) Bret vs. Perfect, KotR 93 5.) Bret vs. Owen, WrestleMania X 6.) Shawn vs. Razor, WrestleMania X 7.) Owen vs. 1-2-3 Kid, KotR 94 8.) Bret vs. Owen, Summerslam 94 9.) Shawn vs. Razor, Summerslam 95 10.) Bret vs. Diesel, Survivor Series 95 11.) Bret vs. Shawn, WrestleMania XII 12.) Shawn vs. Diesel, IYH 7: Good Friends, Better Enemies 13.) Shawn vs. Mankind, IYH 10: Mind Games 14.) Bret vs. Austin, Survivor Series 96 15.) Bret vs. Austin vs. UT vs. Vader, IYH 13: Final Four 16.) Bret vs. Austin, WrestleMania XIII 17.) Hart Foundation vs. Austin/LOD/Shamrock/Goldust, IYH 16: Canadian Stampede 18.) Shawn vs. UT, IYH 18: Badd Blood 19.) Rock vs. Mankind, Royal Rumble 99 20.) Hardyz vs. Christian & Edge, No Mercy 99 Honorable Mentions: Hogan vs. Warrior, WrestleMania VI Shawn vs. Jarrett, IYH 2 Royal Rumble, Royal Rumble 97 Austin vs. Dude Love, IYH 22: Over the Edge Rock vs. HHH, Summerslam 98 Although if you wanted to start the tape with Hogan/Warrior and end with the Tag Ladder match to really show the WWF's evolution through the 90s, I'd say put Hogan/Warrior on there (And Austin/Dude as well, so each year has at least one definitive match) and take off Owen/Kid and the Final Four. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shaneomac Report post Posted March 1, 2002 This covers both WCW and WWF and is in no particular order. 20) HBK vs. Mankind-Mind Games 19) Bret vs. Perfect-Summerslam 91 18) Pillman vs. Liger-Superbrawl 92 17) HHH vs. Cactus Jack- No Way Out 2000 16) Wargames 92 15) Mysterio vs. Guerrero- Halloween Havoc 97 14) Savage vs. Steamboat- Wrestlemania 3 13) Bret vs. Owen-WM X 12) Hardyz vs. Dudleys vs. E&C- Summerslam 2000 11) Flair vs. Steamboat- Wrestlewar 89 10) Benoit vs. Jericho- Royal Rumble 2001 9) HBK vs. Undertaker- Badd Blood 8) HHH vs. Stonecold- No Way Out 2001 7) Juvi vs. Blitzkreig- Spring Stampede 99 6) Stonecold vs. Bret- WM 13 5) Flair vs. Funk- GAB 89 4) HHH vs. Jericho- Fully Loaded 2000 3) Stonecold vs. Dude Love- Over the Edge 98 2) HBK vs Razor-WM X 1) Vader vs. Cactus Jack- Halloween Havoc 93 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted March 1, 2002 Any comp without the Owen vs. Bulldog final from the Euro tournament is a waste of time. That's the best TV match I've ever seen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted March 1, 2002 hey bps, do you have that match or do you just remember seeing it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted March 1, 2002 I've got it on an old tape...that I used to tape matches that were good TV matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CB2M Report post Posted March 1, 2002 hey bps, do you have that match or do you just remember seeing it? I have that match (that's what happens when you tape Raw every week for 6+ years) and it's a great match. Last time I saw it, I had it about ****1/4-****1/2. Not the best U.S. TV match I've seen, of course, with Flair vs. Steamboat Clash 6 being #1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest slabinskia Report post Posted March 1, 2002 i dont have the owen-buldog match which is why its not listed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted March 1, 2002 Bulldog/Owen was the only TV match that placed in the top twenty for the DVDVR in the WWF, which shows it was pretty good. I have a lot of random RAW's on tape, and that was one of the few. I've always been thin king about doing a Hart Foundation vs. Steve Austin comp because the re-match sparked the whole thing in a way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites