What are YOUR political beliefs?

[Guest Incandenza]

I'm rather liberal, but my dissatisfaction with political parties and all their follies makes me just as disgusted with the democrats as the republicans.

 

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[Guest Incandenza]

I think the way I do thanks to George Carlin and Al Bundy.

Ignoring the Bundy part, in other folders, you strike me as someone who leans to the right, Rant. I can't claim to be the biggest follower of George Carlin, but isn't he rather leftist?

[Guest danielisthor]

but have been slowly converting over to the Republicans since. I think Clinton did them in and seen the evil that they are.

 

There are many great evils in the world, Osama bin laden and Communist China are at the forefront, but take heed against other lesser evils: Hillary Clinton, Tipper Gore, Oprah, Rosie O’Donnell, NOW, and labor unions.

For someone who believes all (well, most all) should be treated equal, this is interesting. I know many Republicans with a low view of Democrats, but you think that makes them inherantly evil?

 

It kind of comes down to the same sort of discrimination you were speaking out against. "They don't think the way I do, they must be evil."

There is no discrimination in what i wrote except for the "It's wrong to be French", just because i believe them to be evil does not mean that they do not have the right to voice their opinion, nor would i ever wish them not to. I did not demand that they be deported, hung, drawn and quartered, censored, have their telivision programs taken off my tv or anything of the such. Your off base with that comment.

 

For the most part i am no where close to being discriminatory as i grew up in a completely racially diverse neighborhood in South Florida. My neighbors included Columbians, Cubans, Mexicans, White and Black Americans, a German woman who was married to a Puerto Rican man, a Spanish woman (from Spain), Filipinos, Jamaicans, Haitians and Dominicans. We even had a red neck midget who owned a black lab, whose name was the dreaded "N" word. Living 4 houses down from me in between two black families. Thats where i was born and raised.

[Guest LooseCannon]

I'm somewhat moderate on economic issues and extremely liberal on social issues. Though I consider myself independant, I tend to identify with Democrats much more than Republicans b/c the kooks in the Democratic party bother me a lot less than the Conservative wing of the Republican Party does. The Bill Bennets and the Pat Robertsons offend me.

[Guest DrTom]

The Bill Bennets and the Pat Robertsons offend me.

They offend me, too, and I'm a staunch voter for the GOP. Bennett bothers me with his position on the "war on drugs," and people like Robertson and Falwell offend me with their byzantine views on Christianity and American society.

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

people like Robertson and Falwell offend me with their byzantine views on Christianity and American society.

I'm glad we can agree on that.

 

And I'll chip in and say I think Jesse Jackson and Louis Farakhan are out of their minds. And I was not happy when Hillary Clinton suggested giving donation money to families of illegal immigrants involved in 9/11.

 

I don't really find a problem with the likes of Oprah (what did she do? Support pro-choice or something?) or Ellen Degeneres or whatever. Although they may be actors or well-known and may thus are put in the public spotlight often, they are also people too and thus are just as deserving of their political beliefs as you or me. You also have types like Bill O'Reilly, who has gotten money and success from airing his (usually conservative) opinion. Good for all of them.

 

As long as they aren't fleecing money out of people through organizations or whatever (how does Jackson travel around in such high class anyway? *cough*), I don't have a problem.

[Guest RobJohnstone]

I don't lean to either of the big 2. I like what the Libertarian party has to say but not totally. Last time I voted, it was for pat buchanen.

 

--Rob

[Guest danielisthor]

I don't lean to either of the big 2. I like what the Libertarian party has to say but not totally. Last time I voted, it was for pat buchanen.

 

--Rob

that's a surprise. i voted for buchanan in the primaries in 96 against Dole.

[Guest Vern Gagne]

I'm somewhat moderate on economic issues and extremely liberal on social issues. Though I consider myself independant, I tend to identify with Democrats much more than Republicans b/c the kooks in the Democratic party bother me a lot less than the Conservative wing of the Republican Party does. The Bill Bennets and the Pat Robertsons offend me.

The kooks in the Democratic party are given main stream media credibility. No one like Pat Robertson is. Which I don't have a problem with.

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

Pat Robertson is a media type.

 

He founded a cable channel, put it in quite a few homes, sold it, it expanded again, and now because of the terms of the deal ABC now has to carry The 700 Club in their Family network.

 

Plus he runs telethons and stuff.

 

I still love Chris Matthews' response to the tape where Osama was telling his friends about the attacks and praising Allah: "It's like an Islamic version of The 700 Club."

[Guest Vern Gagne]

Both sides of the aisle have extremist. If Pat Roberton or Jesse Jackson wants to start their own network that's fine. But the main stream media should treat both parties extremist the same and not give credibility to either side.

[Guest Olympic Slam]

Both sides of the aisle have extremist. If Pat Roberton or Jesse Jackson wants to start their own network that's fine. But the main stream media should treat both parties extremist the same and not give credibility to either side.

I can't stand it when Pat Roberton and other religious icons are regarded as conservative icons as well. They soooo don't represent my beliefs.

[Guest LooseCannon]

I'm somewhat moderate on economic issues and extremely liberal on social issues.  Though I consider myself independant, I tend to identify with Democrats much more than Republicans b/c the kooks in the Democratic party bother me a lot less than the Conservative wing of the Republican Party does.  The Bill Bennets and the Pat Robertsons offend me.

The kooks in the Democratic party are given main stream media credibility. No one like Pat Robertson is. Which I don't have a problem with.

I'm not debating media bias. The kooks in the Democratic party bother me less than Pat Robertson does. I don't really care how the media present them.

[Guest Vern Gagne]

I blame the media. They group conservatives into one big group.

[Guest LooseCannon]

You blame the media that I don't like Republicans? Okay, but only if you're assuming I'm a mindless automaton incapable of thinking for myself.

 

 

Edit: Oh. Never mind then.

[Guest Vern Gagne]

I was reponding to Olympic Slam's post.

 

I blame the media that left-wing extremist aren't dismissed like right-wing extremist have been.

[Guest Sassquatch]

I grew up in a household where both my dad and mom were Republicans.

 

I grew up more of an Independent but I found myself agreeing with the Republican policies more than the Democrat's policies. My family already had to pay enough bills without the Democrats "give money to the less wealthy" policies that I found myself disliking. I do not always agree with the ideas that the Republican Party supports like the "Trickle Down" theory which is a joke in my own opinion.

 

I lean more towards being a conservative but I also believe in some of the libertarian policies/ideas.

[Guest McLeary]

Every political test I've ever taken has me coming out as right-of-center, but I'm a college student right now, so most days I feel like I make Rush Limbaugh look like a head shop clerk in San Francisco. I actually realize those tests are flawed, because I'm basicallly really right-wing with something of a libertarian streak, which leads to a totally honest yet inherently fucked-up outlook(plus I'm only 20, what the fuck do I know about anything? If only more kids my age realized that...). I always found liberal ideas to be laughable at best, irritating at worst, but post 9-11, liberalism with too much power is not just stupid but it can be incredibly reckless and very, very dangerous. I do admit, though, that in spite of all its ignorance and stupidity, I LOVE the far left, because anybody willing to take votes away from the DNC in favor of the Green Party or plain' ol "bucking the system" is just doing us such a great favor. I've always found the Dems to be completely transparent, saying or doing anything they can to accumulate power, ad disagreeing with anything a Republican says just because it's a Republican saying it(you could say the same thing about some members of the GOP, but that's usually because when a Dem says something that they agree with, they probably don't mean it, like Clinton's stance on Iraq in '98), and using scare tactics to get what they want(ditto).

 

It's weird, because I went to Catholic school for 10and1/2 years and my elementary school was far from the conservative institution you might assume it would be. I can think of two very far lefties in the administration trying to put their idealogy on us for the entire time I was there, and getting under their skin for shooting them down every single time. My mom is very much the Republican while my dad has a decidely conservative outlook on life, although I don't think he even votes. I'm more passionate then either of them combined, though.

 

I think religion can be very bad, but that religion in moderation is a good thing for alot of people, because most people are just too stupid to be able to handle a world without God. I'd be more in favor of agnosticsm and maybe even atheism if so many of it's practitioners weren't such fucking jackoffs. On the other hand, Islam has shown me nothing positive whatsoever, and all we need to do is look at the situation in the Middle East ever since Mohammed reared his ugly head for proof of that. I actually live in the largest Islamic community in the US, so I have a pretty good idea of what I'm talking about(and it's way better here than the rest of the world, BTW. If they tried to go entirely by-the-book in this country, it would be ILLEGAL) . I think it can become something positive, but such a massive overhaul would be quite the dramatic undertaking, but I also feel that it's something that will have to happen if we really want things to change for the better. Is that gonna happen? Things would have to get alot worse, which would be kinda hard to do at this point.

 

Another example of my f'ed-uppedness: abortion? Is it murder? No shit. That's a dead body, pal. Is it wrong? That guilt women who have them go through is there for a reason. Would we be better off if it was outlawed? Probably not. We've got enough kids running around that nobody wants, we don't need several billion more. Gay marriages? Whatever. Should gay couples be allowed to raise children? Well, I don't think they can fuck their kids up any worse than most straight parents do.

 

Well, enough random shit from me, you have a pretty good idea where I stand.

[Guest Mystery Eskimo]

I'm slightly to the left of centre, which makes me a communist on this board...

 

I take a liberal line on a lot of issues - I'm very anti death penalty, pro right to abortion, gun control, gay marriages etc

 

But a lot of liberals piss me off. Political correctness is a very stupid thing.