Guest Sandman9000 Report post Posted October 7, 2002 I know that the Twins have all of this "Team of Destiny,""The Team That Told Bud Selig To Shove It," blah blah blah, but as much as I want to cheer for the underdog, there is one person that keeps me from doing so. Carl Pohald. If the Twins make it all the way and win it all, we'll be subjected to a series of images of a smiling Pohald, patting anything that moves on the back, and spitting bullshit into the camera, such as "We never gave up," and "I never doubted these guys." Besides any member of the Boston Red Sux, the last person I want to get a World Series ring is Pohald. This man worked with Bug Selig to try and have his team contracted and bought out so that he could make even more money. A billionaire who has attempted to hold Minnesota hostage in an attempt to have a new stadium built on taxpayer dollar. A man who stand to make millions during this playoffs, and not turn any of that money back on the team. As great as it would be to see the Twins win a championship, I can't bring myself to cheer for them, simply because of the man that owns them. It's too bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest kkktookmybabyaway Report post Posted October 7, 2002 Damn, I forgot all about that scumbag... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MillenniumMan831 Report post Posted October 7, 2002 I love TGIF Bacon/Cheddar Potato Skins. Not good for you, but a feel good snack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sandman9000 Report post Posted October 8, 2002 Food folder is that way buddy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redbaron51 Report post Posted October 8, 2002 well there is Aneheim still Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest imajackoff? Report post Posted October 8, 2002 There is just something so COOL about a club winning a championship from a league that didnt even want them to exist. That's what was so great when my Ravens won the super bowl. Ahhhh.... the image of that dick muncher Tagliabue having to hand the trophy over to the owner of a Baltimore football team. With that in mind, I'll be rooting for the Twins to rage against the machine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sandman9000 Report post Posted October 8, 2002 First, like hell I'm rootin for the Halos. In fact, for the next six months, everything that goes wrong in my life is their fault. Second, it wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for the fact that both Selig and Pohald wanted the Twins gone. Instead, Selig gets to hand the World Championship over to his buddy. So, even though their original plan failed, they still win. It's a sight I don't want to see. SO, I could root for the Twins, as long as someone takes Pohald out of the picture. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MaxPower27 Report post Posted October 8, 2002 I say just root for the Angels, obviously the better team won the series, get over it. Take it from me, a diehard Red Sox fan, you lost. The sun will rise tomorrow. Geez lighten up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sandman9000 Report post Posted October 8, 2002 Matter of principle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MaxPower27 Report post Posted October 8, 2002 I'd rather the team that eliminated my team win the whole thing though. Then, at least you know that them beating your team was for a reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest imajackoff? Report post Posted October 8, 2002 I'd rather the team that eliminated my team win the whole thing though. Then, at least you know that them beating your team was for a reason. I hear this way of thinking alot. Im usually so bitter from my team being eliminated, that the last thing I can do is root for the team that did it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted October 8, 2002 Who cares if Pohlad says anything. He might keep is mouth shut and if he does talk no one believes anything he says. Most importantly the players, who wanna shove it back into the Pohlad's face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ShooterJay Report post Posted October 8, 2002 Think of it like "Major League." Root for the players, not the owner. To use a collegiate analogy, my school is run by a renowned asshole (BU- Silber) my best friend's is run by the brother of a mafiosi (UMass- Bulger) and we still root for the teams. Personally, I'd love to see somebody who'd been with the Twins for a long time, maybe Radke or one of the coaches, say during the ceremony if they win something like "Pohlad did jack shit, we won this for Minnesota!" That would rule. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jericholic82 Report post Posted October 9, 2002 i am kinda rooting for the twins just to get back at those cursed angels, but i really dont care who wins it all cuz my team is gone where have you gone yankees pitiching and defense? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest oldschoolwrestling Report post Posted October 9, 2002 Off topic but I have to ask, hey Vern Gagne, was that you that ran out on the field during the game last night? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted October 9, 2002 Off topic but I have to ask, hey Vern Gagne, was that you that ran out on the field during the game last night? Actually I was at the game. One of the security guards tried diving after the guy and he high-stepped him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BobbyWhioux Report post Posted October 11, 2002 Personally, I'd love to see somebody who'd been with the Twins for a long time, maybe Radke or one of the coaches, say during the ceremony if they win something like "Pohlad did jack shit, we won this for Minnesota!" That would rule. [selig enters with world series trophy, with "No Chance in Hell" playing in the background. He calls up Chris Pohland and is about to give him the trophy when...] *GLASS SHATTERS* [Enter Brad Radke.] KICK WHAM STUNNER! on Selig. KICK WHAM STUNNER! on Pohland. [Picks up trophy with one hand; second hand catches beer can thrown to him by "Ravishing" Rick Reed.] Actually, that would be pretty cool... Funny how I harbor little animosity towards the Twins for eliminating the A's. I guess it's just that I feel the A's could've / should've beaten them, but didn't and really it's their own fault for not doing so. Also, the Yankees losing has put me very much in an "Everybody! Love! and Peace!" kind of mood. Seriously. I wouldn't begrudge the Twins going all the way. Or the Angels, for that matter [even though they ARE managed by an ex-Dodger and hence are EVIL~!]. Or even the Cardinals, though I hope the Giants will have them finished off by Monday. Speaking of which...those of you searching for further rooting interest in the baseball playoffs...you know, you guys CAN throw your support behind one of the NL teams. Don't be afraid to embrace the senior circuit, where the pitchers are manly and bat for themselves instead of hiding like little sissies behind a DH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 12, 2002 Sandman, fuck the Twins, they can rot for all i care. Just do what I do and completely deny that the post season is even going on. Ya know, when the Yanks lost, I figured, ya know, it might be cool if the A's win, just to see Giambi after that (Nothing against the guy, it would just be funny) Or even the D-Backs, so the Yanks could beat them next year. But then they both lost. So I held my faith in the Braves, because I refuse to root for an underdog. But they choked, so, as far as I'm concerned, there is no baseball going on right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JHawk Report post Posted October 12, 2002 And with respect Anglesault, it's people like you who make MLB think they can push the Yankees to the moon when the average non-New Yorker doesn't give a shit. Hey, I'm all tking a backseat once your team is gone (I've got this "rebuilding" shit in Cleveland to go through...yay me) but for most fans, this is the best playoff in years. Why? We're getting something besides New York vs. this year's sacfricial lamb for the first time in 5 years. And quite honestly, I wouldn't give a shit if other teams were allowed Prime Time games once in awhile. Games 1-3 of Yankees-Angels were in prime time, even though 1 and 2 were on the East Coast and Oakland was on the West Coast. Hell, why was game 5 of Oakland-Minnesota the 4:00 game and game 4 of Atlanta-SF the 7:30 game? Isn't game 5, which definitely ends the series, more important than game 4, which may or may not end the series. I'm going a bit off-topic, but little shit like that makes me glad the Yankees and Braves are both gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 12, 2002 And with respect Anglesault, it's people like you who make MLB think they can push the Yankees to the moon when the average non-New Yorker doesn't give a shit. Hey, I'm all tking a backseat once your team is gone (I've got this "rebuilding" shit in Cleveland to go through...yay me) but for most fans, this is the best playoff in years. Why? We're getting something besides New York vs. this year's sacfricial lamb for the first time in 5 years. And quite honestly, I wouldn't give a shit if other teams were allowed Prime Time games once in awhile. Games 1-3 of Yankees-Angels were in prime time, even though 1 and 2 were on the East Coast and Oakland was on the West Coast. Hell, why was game 5 of Oakland-Minnesota the 4:00 game and game 4 of Atlanta-SF the 7:30 game? Isn't game 5, which definitely ends the series, more important than game 4, which may or may not end the series. I'm going a bit off-topic, but little shit like that makes me glad the Yankees and Braves are both gone. I don't quite follow this whole rant, so I'm doing my best. You don't like teams like the Yankees or the Braves because people care about them. You would rather have a post season with the four, uhm, lesser play off teams. Whatever floats your boat. I'm just not one of those "ooh, look at the Cinderella team defy all odds and win it all" type guys. That repulses me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JHawk Report post Posted October 12, 2002 You don't like teams like the Yankees or the Braves because people care about them. You would rather have a post season with the four, uhm, lesser play off teams. Whatever floats your boat. I'm just not one of those "ooh, look at the Cinderella team defy all odds and win it all" type guys. That repulses me. Um...I don't like the Yankees because their spending policies fuck it up for those "lesse" teams, plus I'm not one of those people who ride the front runner. I know you're a diehrd Yankees fan, but I'd say most of the people outside of New York who like the Yankees like them for the same reason they used to like the Bulls...they're winning and they won't root for a loser. And to say "people care about them"...hell, people in Atlanta didn't give enough of a shit to go to the Division Series, so there went that theory. If they were really the "lesser" teams, they'd have lost the series. Minnesota and Anaheim were upsets, yes, but I don't see SF and St. Louis as upsets. The Cards did just well enough against Johnson and Schilling, and the D-Backs have no depth beyond that. The Giants were facing an aging starting rotation, and any team with Barry Bonds that isn't a legit contender has nobody else worth a damn. I'm not saying "root for the underdog", and I have no rooting interest at all, but I'm glad it's not the same shit we've gotten the last few years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted October 12, 2002 I think what he's saying is that it's good to see 'new blood' in the LCS' this year. I know I enjoy it, and that doesn't go for just the Yankees, but the Braves, as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mr. Slim Citrus Report post Posted October 12, 2002 Having the small market break through every now and then promotes national interest. If nobody has any reason to believe that the Yankees can ever be beaten, what reason is there to bother with baseball? Living in Virginia, where there are no sports teams, I could wipe my ass with whatever's going on with the Yankees. I personally root against major market teams in all sports as a matter of general principle; I resent the blowjobs they continue to get from the media. I would like to understand what your beef is with underdogs, AS. It's cool that you don't care for "Cinderella" stories, but what is there to find repulsive about it? What's not to like about an underdog? At any rate, I couldn't ever root for the Yankees just because they come across to me as the Triple H of MLB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted October 12, 2002 Why can't people just watch the playoffs even if your team isn't in it. Last nights Twins-Angels game was excellent. Someone that likes Baseball, even if you have zereo interest in either team would of enjoyed that game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 12, 2002 Um...I don't like the Yankees because their spending policies fuck it up for those "lesse" teams, How so? I've yet to see George Steinbrenner hold a gun to the head of a small market owner and DEMAND that they misuse their money, refuse you use the money, or refuse to sell the team to someone who has money. George shouldn't be persecuted because he has the money, talent, and business sense to run a successful baseball team, nor should he be expected to help fun other teams (This Ludicrous luxary tax) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 12, 2002 If they were really the "lesser" teams, they'd have lost the series. Minnesota and Anaheim were upsets, yes, but I don't see SF and St. Louis as upsets. The Cards did just well enough against Johnson and Schilling, and the D-Backs have no depth beyond that. The Giants were facing an aging starting rotation, and any team with Barry Bonds that isn't a legit contender has nobody else worth a damn. I pick the defending world champions as the favorite nine times out of ten, but that may just be me. Bond was also a play off question mark, and once again, I pick a 1st place tam over a wild card,(Unless the wild crd was eons better than the 1st place team of another division) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted October 12, 2002 Maybe George should look into spending is money a little better next year. Overpaying players like Wells and Vander Wal didn't to any good. Just because you have the money doesn't mean you have to waste it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 12, 2002 Maybe George should look into spending is money a little better next year. Overpaying players like Wells and Vander Wal didn't to any good. Just because you have the money doesn't mean you have to waste it. He did what he thought was right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JHawk Report post Posted October 13, 2002 George shouldn't be persecuted because he has the money, talent, and business sense to run a successful baseball team, nor should he be expected to help fun other teams (This Ludicrous luxary tax) He's only got all that money because the more you're on national TV, the more money you get from the networks, and since the networks always give the Yankees a virtual blowjob when it comes to TV games (even when they sucked in the 80s), of course they have more money. Hell, you give the Expos every TV game, maybe people would actually remember they have a fucking team. As far as the other owners go, if they don't spend what revenue sharing gives them, that's their own problem, but when the Indians started trimming payroll after selling out for 485 straight home games because they don't even get on FOX when they're playing the Reds AT HOME because it's on opposite the Yankees-Mets game, I start rooting against the Yankees by proxy. Bond was also a play off question mark, and once again, I pick a 1st place tam over a wild card,(Unless the wild crd was eons better than the 1st place team of another division) The Angels were a playoff question mark since they came in with only two postseason games overall as a team, and they proved better than their opponents. Who were they again? As I said, my biggest problem with the Yankees is the networks kissing their ass and pretending the other 29 teams only exist if they happen to be playing the Yankees that day. I swear, unless it's Sunday night the Yankees seem to be on every ESPN game, and outside of New York (which has their own network for just the Yankees) not enough people care enough to justify that. Make it the alternate game so Cablevision subscribers can see them if they have to be on ESPN every game, but unless it's the most important game in the pennant chase, give other teams a shot at some TV time. I didn't see one Twins game outside of a Sunday night that wasn't airing locally because they were against the Indians. That is where my Yankee hatred comes from. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alkeiper Report post Posted October 13, 2002 As far as the other owners go, if they don't spend what revenue sharing gives them, that's their own problem, but when the Indians started trimming payroll after selling out for 485 straight home games because they don't even get on FOX when they're playing the Reds AT HOME because it's on opposite the Yankees-Mets game, I start rooting against the Yankees by proxy. All teams derive the same revenue from the national tv contract regardless of how many times they're on. I imagine the Yankees actually lose money when games air outside the YES network. In baseball, local television rights are more lucrative than the national television deal. The Yankees have the added advantage of playing on the east coast. It's much easier to broadcast an east coast game than a west coast or even central time game, due to the time differences. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites