Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2002 What kind of matchups are we thinking will happen at SurSer2k2? let me go though mine Smackdown side of the card: 1- Jamie Noble, Tajiri, Crash Holly and Guido (new signee) take on Shannon Moore, Spanky (new signee), Kidman and Funaki 2- D-Von and Ron Simmons team with Chavo and Eddy Guerrero (who I'd give the SD tag titles) to face Billy and Chuck and Rikishi and Mark Henry 3- Rey Mysterio Jr, Mattitude and another babyface (John Cena? Undertaker, if he stays?) take on Kurt Angle, Chris Benoit and Edge in a 'wildcard' match where the survivors at a shot at Brock Lesnar later that night 4- Brock Lesnar against the survivors RAW part: 1- Rosey, Jamal, Lance Storm and William Regal take on Jeff Hardy, Tommy Dreamer, Bubba Dudley and Spike Dudley in a 'tag elimination' match 2- Steven Richards, Batista, Test and Rico take on D'Lo Brown, Hurricane, Al Snow and Goldust 3- Chris Jericho, Rob Van Dam and Christian take on Booker T, Ric Flair and Kane in a 'wildcard' match where the winners get a shot at Triple H later 4- Triple H takes on the survivors. Oh yeah, the results part SD1- put over Spanky, faces go over Raw1- either the Samoans or the Brit Canadians survive SD2- Eddy and Chavo survive Raw2- Hurricane and Goldust (or Batista) SD3- Angle and Benoit (or Angle and Edge) survive Raw3- RVD survives SD4- Brock over Edge and Angle, screwy finish, Brock pins Edge Raw4- HHH v. RVD: Personal perference any ideas from you all? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 14, 2002 SMELL THE SUCK~! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2002 You try putting up a lineup or are you just moody because Benoit and Angle are near each other? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted October 14, 2002 2- D-Von and Ron Simmons team with Chavo and Eddy Guerrero (who I'd give the SD tag titles) to face Billy and Chuck and Rikishi and Mark Henry OOOOOOOHHH, the horror!!! Ron, Rikishi, Mizark, Billy Gunn and Chucky all in the same match. You can keep that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 14, 2002 SD! WWF World title Kurt Angle © vs. Chris Benoit -Angle #1 Contender for Royal Rumble Eddy Guerrero vs. Brock Lesnar-Eddy WWF Tag team Championship Edge and Rey© vs. Tajiri and Knoble-Tajiri and Knoble WWF Cruiserweight Title Chavo Guerrero© vs. Billy Kidman-Chavo D-Von, Ron Simmons, Crash and Matt Hardy vs. John Cena, Rikishi, Mark Henry and a mystery partner (Little Guido or someone)-Team Face Raw HHH title HHH © vs. RVD-RVD Booker T vs. Chris Jericho-Jericho WWF Tag titles HurriKane © vs. Jamal and Rosie-HurriKane Rico vs. Goldust-Goldust Tommy Dreamer, Bubba, Spike and Christian(Face) vs. Big Show, William Regal, Lance Storm and Nowinski-Heels Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted October 14, 2002 I don't think giving either of those two the title before Survivor Series is going to improve the situation. As you've said, neither have been made to look strong lately, and neither has Brock, and hot shotting the title will come off as just that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GameCop Report post Posted October 14, 2002 WWE SURVIVOR SERIES 2002 - Jericho/RVD/HHH/Kane/BookerT vs. Brock/Edge/Angle/Benoit/Mysterio - World Title: HHH vs. RVD - street fight - WWE Title: Brock vs. Edge - Vince McMahon vs. Hulk Hogan - Angle vs. Benoit - submission match - Eddy/Chavo vs. Kane/Hurricane - Tag champs vs. Tag champs - Chris Jericho vs. Booker T Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 14, 2002 As you've said, neither have been made to look strong lately, and neither has Brock, and hot shotting the title will come off as just that. Make them look strong then. I don't think giving either of those two the title before Survivor Series is going to improve the situation. Getting it off Brock is an immediate improvement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted October 14, 2002 So you're saying in a month they can erase all the memories of both guys being made to look like goofs, in your own words; bring them up to a title that's been devalued because the challenger is so weak he has to blackmail, injure body parts, run and hide behind security, and try and gain psychological advantages over the challenger; and have them win the title on free TV with little to no build. That's the great solution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BoboBrazil Report post Posted October 14, 2002 Brock vs Edge HHH vs Booker T(who else can HHH face, he has beaten everyone) Benoit vs Kurt Angle in a ladder match That is all I can guess. The midcard can go in any direction. We really don't even know any midcard matches for the next ppv and it is a week away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 14, 2002 There will be a slow middle period, but once they get cooking with Angle and Benoit and totally erase the memory of Brock, and then start RVD/Angle, the title might have value again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BoboBrazil Report post Posted October 14, 2002 Oh wait, I just remembered something. Hogan might return to Raw and HHH can get his job back from Hogan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted October 14, 2002 If HHH hadn't made his own title and if Taker puts Brock over ALA Rocky, then the belt would have value now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted October 14, 2002 Do you really believe that when a mid-card feud, as you put it, suddenly has the title involved that both guys will gain instant credibility? And how is RVD de-valuing the split going to help? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 14, 2002 No, you still need a good champion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted October 14, 2002 To the marks, Brock is a good champion. Or do you still believe he is "not over"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2002 Oh wait, I just remembered something. Hogan might return to Raw and HHH can get his job back from Hogan. didn't HHH already go over Hogan in June on SD? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alfdogg Report post Posted October 14, 2002 RAW SS Elimination: D-Lo/Goldust/Jeff Hardy/Al Snow vs UnAmericans Tag title: Kane/Hurricane vs Jamal & Rosie SS Elimination: Jericho/Flair/Orton/Batista (If they do the Horsemen thing by then...this is how it should be) vs RVD/Bubba/Spike/Dreamer RAW title: HHH vs Booker T SD Cruiser title: Noble vs Kidman SS Elimination: Benoit/Edge/Rey/Cena vs Eddy/Chavo/Tajiri/Matt Hardy SS Elimination: D-Von/Simmons/Valbowski/Funaki vs Billy/Chuck/Crash/Albert WWE title: Lesnar vs Angle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BoboBrazil Report post Posted October 14, 2002 He might have. I can't really remember. These shows are all a blur to me now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alfdogg Report post Posted October 14, 2002 It just hit me... I know why HHH fought D-Lo on RAW. He never got his job back for the Euro title in 98! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DJ Jeff Report post Posted October 14, 2002 My Survivor Series card: WWE Championship Brock Lesnar© vs. Edge World Championship Triple H© vs. Rob Van Dam WWE Tag Team Championship Eddie Guerrero & Chavo Guerrero© vs. Matt Hardy & Shannon Moore World Tag Team Championship Kane & the Hurricane© vs. Jamal & Rosie #1 Contender's Match For The WWE Title Kurt Angle vs. Chris Benoit RAW Survivor Series Match Lance Storm, Christian, Chris Jericho, & Ric Flair vs. Bubba Ray, Spike Dudley, Tommy Dreamer, & Randy Orton Smackdown Survivor Series Match Billy, Chuck, Tajiri, & Jamie Noble vs. D-Von, Ron Simmons, Rey Mysterio, & Funaki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 14, 2002 Do you really believe that when a mid-card feud, as you put it, suddenly has the title involved that both guys will gain instant credibility? And how is RVD de-valuing the split going to help? Angle is an upper midcarder. It was belivable that he could beat taker on the 4th of July. If they hype the match up like that, it will help. To the marks, Brock is a good champion. Or do you still believe he is "not over"? Yeah, them marks are just FLOCKING to No mercy, aint they? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alfdogg Report post Posted October 14, 2002 Dammit, you guys completely ignored my observation. EDIT: MATT HARDY IS A HEEL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted October 14, 2002 Why should they flock? It looks like he's a loser. How many advantages does he need on the Undertaker? Anyways, it's the opposite way around. They should be flocking to see Undertaker win shouldn't they? I mean, Brock's a weak champ who has to do so much just to get on level ground with his opponent, so Undertaker winning is the pay-off isn't it? You said that Angle and Benoit were involved in a mid-card (I've even heard lower mid-card from you) feud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 14, 2002 You said that Angle and Benoit were involved in a mid-card (I've even heard lower mid-card from you) feud. They are upper midcarders involved in a mid card level feud. It gets no respect. Why should they flock? It looks like he's a loser. How many advantages does he need on the Undertaker? Because the man kills everyone else on earth, and he has gone tow to tow with the Undertaker in the past. Until taker started using the cast, Brock was holding his own Thursday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted October 14, 2002 Yeah, them marks are just FLOCKING to No mercy, aint they? I dunno. I usually don't believe 1wrestling.com, so I don't know what the attendence will be like. It's all Brock's fault. Nothing to do with the other 3 main eventers (HHH, Kane and Taker). Nothing to do with the abysmal booking and storylines. Nothing to do with Taker making Brock look shit. Nothing to do with 3 matches being announced so far. Nothing to do with the rank "Kane is a murderer" angle. Nope, it's all down to Brock, Bah God. I got a great idea, why don't we throw all this hard work we have done with Brock straight down the toilet, by having yet another 2 month title reign and hot shotting the the title to someone who the fans see as a midcarder, thus destroying any chance of Brock being a star. Yeah, lets do that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted October 14, 2002 By standing toe to toe in the past, you must mean Brock being surrounded by security, being fearful, getting his offense no-sold, being sandbagged on, being pinned for two false finishes, and getting beat up post match? Damn, Undertaker's made him look so much like their on the same level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 14, 2002 It's all Brock's fault. Nothing to do with the other 3 main eventers (HHH, Kane and Taker No, the all deserve close to equal credit for totally turning the viewing public off. I got a great idea, why don't we throw all this hard work we have done with Brock straight down the toilet, by having yet another 2 month title reign and hot shotting the the title to someone who the fans see as a midcarder, If the hard work isn't paying off, then it's stupid to keep the belt with him thus destroying any chance of Brock being a star. Oh Well, life goes on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 14, 2002 By standing toe to toe in the past, you must mean Brock being surrounded by security, being fearful, getting his offense no-sold, being sandbagged on, being pinned for two false finishes, and getting beat up post match? Damn, Undertaker's made him look so much like their on the same level. You also have to remember, it's THE FUCKING UNDERTAKER. This man has according to the WWF, "crippled more people than Polio" It would be retarded to have "Brock walks in, F5, over." It should be a hard fought match, and Brock certainly did get some offense at Unforgiven, alot more than A LOT of people can say. He pretty much "Took the Taler to the limit" or damn close to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted October 14, 2002 Yeah, Brock, Heyman, Matt Hardy, the World Title and a steel chair took Taker almost to his limit. Then Taker beat shit out of everyone, had Lesnar pinned twice, and gave him an after match beatdown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
