Ok, so we have a Hell In a Cell later tonight...

[Guest Anglesault]

With that logic, wouldn't HHH adn Kane match be last? I hear they are going to do a "old-school" (read: slow) match.

Oh shit. Both matches are walk out quality.

[Guest CanadianChick]

At least we know to turn off the PPV after the third to last match...

[Guest Anglesault]

Which will be like Torrie/Dawn, just to make sure everyone knows that those SHORT GUYS (And Edge) in the tag match are worthless.

[Guest Nevermortal]

I have a bit of hopes for this match.

 

C'mon, Kane/Trips is definitely going to be worse, much worse.

[Guest CanadianChick]

I have a bit of hopes for this match.

 

C'mon, Kane/Trips is definitely going to be worse, much worse.

If only for the reason that there is a cage to disguise the badness of the match. Also, people won't walk out because there is that hope of a big bump.

[Guest Anglesault]

But Hell in a Cell immediately has high expectations, and taker is awful, and Brock has managed to fail to meet each ane every expectation that was set before him. It will be terrible.

[Guest CanadianChick]

But if there is a big bump, everyone will forget how bad the match was and remember the amazing bump. IMO, they NEED a big bump to make this match memorable (in a good way, not in a "OMG, that was horrible" way)

[Guest Anglesault]

But if there is a big bump, everyone will forget how bad the match was and remember the amazing bump. IMO, they NEED a big bump to make this match memorable (in a good way, not in a "OMG, that was horrible" way)

Not true. Only a moron would view Taker/Foley as a good match.

[Guest Downhome]

If they continue the past trends, wouldn't one of the two matches come earlier in the card, either half way or 3/4ths of the way through?

[ChrisMWaters 0]

But if there is a big bump, everyone will forget how bad the match was and remember the amazing bump. IMO, they NEED a big bump to make this match memorable (in a good way, not in a "OMG, that was horrible" way)

Not true. Only a moron would view Taker/Foley as a good match.

Must all "Good matches" be how well the stars compete?

 

I consider Warrior/Hogan and Rock/Hogan good matches, but I know that they aren't the best wrestlers.

 

In my opinion, what constitutes a Good match is a mix of performing well and delivering the point of the match.

 

Hell in the Cell from King of the Ring 98 was a good match for what it was. Just like that one Dreamer/Foley match fromECW

[Guest Anglesault]

Taker/Foley was a big bump, a huge fuck up, lots of stalling, and a pin. It's only good in showing how dangerous Hell in a cell can be, but HBK/UT did a fine job there.

[Guest evenflowDDT]

But if there is a big bump, everyone will forget how bad the match was and remember the amazing bump. IMO, they NEED a big bump to make this match memorable (in a good way, not in a "OMG, that was horrible" way)

Not true. Only a moron would view Taker/Foley as a good match.

Well, given the whole millions upon millions of "Foley is GOD" signs following that match...

 

Also, I don't necessarily think a bump will make the match "good" all of a sudden, but it'll make it a lot less boring and vanilla, and in the WWE these days, it seems that's as close to "memorable" or "good" as you'll get.

[Guest CanadianChick]

But fans, by the reaction that the match got, liked the riskiness and danger of the match. People look back on that match as dangerous and shocking, not horrible and bad.

[Guest Anglesault]

But fans, by the reaction that the match got, liked the riskiness and danger of the match. People look back on that match as dangerous and shocking, not horrible and bad.

Oh, it is memorable, just not good. At all. I thought you were saying that a bump would make Taker/Brock good.

[Guest Human Fly]

Since Undertaker is taking time off maybe something will happen where the match goes backstage and Undertaker "takes" some kind of huge bump like Stone Cold getting run over at Survivor Series '99.

[Guest CanadianChick]

No, I meant it would make it less boring and dull, llike all of Taker's matches are.

[Guest Downhome]

Taker/Foley was a horrible match when it comes to actual in ring work, but really, did you expect anything more considering who was in it?

 

For drama, suspense, and whatnot it was a great display for what HIAC could be, and set the stage for all future bouts held within.

[Guest Downhome]

But fans, by the reaction that the match got, liked the riskiness and danger of the match. People look back on that match as dangerous and shocking, not horrible and bad.

Oh, it is memorable, just not good. At all. I thought you were saying that a bump would make Taker/Brock good.

Nothing can make this match "good", period. If Brock did the SSP off the top of the cage onto Taker, I would however proclaim it as on of the greatest moments I've ever witnessed however.

[Guest Anglesault]

Taker/Foley was a horrible match when it comes to actual in ring work, but really, did you expect anything more considering who was in it?

 

For drama, suspense, and whatnot it was a great display for what HIAC could be, and set the stage for all future bouts held within.

After the two bumps, it was kind of boring. There is a reason why they only show the two bumps.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Taker/Foley was a horrible match when it comes to actual in ring work, but really, did you expect anything more considering who was in it?

 

For drama, suspense, and whatnot it was a great display for what HIAC could be, and set the stage for all future bouts held within.

After the two bumps, it was kind of boring. There is a reason why they only show the two bumps.

Yeah...the poor thumbtacks get no respect.

 

I kinda liked the Tombstone onto the Thumbtacks.

[Guest AfricanAmerican]

the matches will probably go in this order..

 

angle/benoit vs edge/rey (to hype up the crowd)

whatever heat match is added

womens title match

rvd/flair

black gold (booker/dust) vs christian jericho

brock taker

dawnmarie v torrie

hhh - kane

 

since wwe has a history of putting a really boring match in between the two big matches on the card.. and also putting a match where the action is fast paced in the curtain jerker

[Guest Anglesault]

the matches will probably go in this order..

 

angle/benoit vs edge/rey (to hype up the crowd)

 

Immediately followed by Anglesault smashing HHH in the face with a baseball bat

[ChrisMWaters 0]

since wwe has a history of putting a really boring match in between the two big matches on the card.. and also putting a match where the action is fast paced in the curtain jerker

They sorta did the boring match thing since 85. WrestleMania 1 had Wendy Richter and Lelani Kai between Andre/Studd and Hogan & T/Piper & Orndorff

[Guest RenegadeX28]

It seems a lot of ppl are thinking that Matt will take the fall. Well, I think so as well, but if it isn't Matt, it will be Taker.

[Guest fazzle]

Foley/Taker was EASILY, EASILY the worst hell in a Cell ever. There was no match.

No, that distinction goes to Kennel from Hell. There was no match there either, and they didn't have big bumps. They just had dogs. Pissing dogs.

[Guest Anglesault]

Foley/Taker was EASILY, EASILY the worst hell in a Cell ever. There was no match.

No, that distinction goes to Kennel from Hell. There was no match there either, and they didn't have big bumps. They just had dogs. Pissing dogs.

That doesn't count. It wasn't billed as HiaC

[Guest HartFan86]

Foley/Taker was EASILY, EASILY the worst hell in a Cell ever. There was no match.

No, that distinction goes to Kennel from Hell. There was no match there either, and they didn't have big bumps. They just had dogs. Pissing dogs.

Humping Dogs.

[Guest fazzle]

Foley/Taker was EASILY, EASILY the worst hell in a Cell ever. There was no match.

No, that distinction goes to Kennel from Hell. There was no match there either, and they didn't have big bumps. They just had dogs. Pissing dogs.

That doesn't count. It wasn't billed as HiaC

Big deal. That's like saying a Las Vegas Street Fight isn't the same thing as a New Orleans Street Fight, which is also different from a Philadelphia Street Fight.

 

It had the cell, and it had shitty wrestling. Oh, and dogs. Pissing dogs. That's close enough for me to count it as the worst HIAC ever. The fact that I had to witness it in person probably doesn't help my opinion of either.

[Guest Anglesault]

Foley/Taker was EASILY, EASILY the worst hell in a Cell ever. There was no match.

No, that distinction goes to Kennel from Hell. There was no match there either, and they didn't have big bumps. They just had dogs. Pissing dogs.

That doesn't count. It wasn't billed as HiaC

Big deal. That's like saying a Las Vegas Street Fight isn't the same thing as a New Orleans Street Fight, which is also different from a Philadelphia Street Fight.

 

It had the cell, and it had shitty wrestling. Oh, and dogs. Pissing dogs. That's close enough for me to count it as the worst HIAC ever. The fact that I had to witness it in person probably doesn't help my opinion of either.

It also wasn't fought under HoaC rules. It was cage match rules.

[Guest fazzle]

Yeah, well I like being stubborn anyways.