Guest converge241 Report post Posted March 2, 2002 I touched base on an idea in the Kane mask thread and was curious, nobody is really talking that much about who will be the "Sting" to this incarnation of the NWO. If they do go that route: Who do you want to see in that role? and Who do you think would end up in that role? Mine are either Kane or Edge Unfortunately, I think it will be HHH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Vanilla Midget Report post Posted March 2, 2002 *yawn* trips, rock, austin. 3 heels, 3 faces, you do the maths. it needs to be main eventers to be the proverbial "thorn in their side," and at the moment austin is filling this role, however once hhh is done with jericho he will probably take centre stage. it would be nice to see midcarders be "the sting," but it would not have any credibility or believability attached to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest converge241 Report post Posted March 2, 2002 Yeah I have a feeling itll be one of the trinity. Just holding out hope that they would try something a little different. I wont hold my breath. Heck, they almost turned Austin into Sting's character during the Invasion stuff. Wgere he would stun everybody before picking a side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Vanilla Midget Report post Posted March 2, 2002 it *has* to be one of the big 3, nothing else will draw, as the fans will feel cheated out of their dream matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Army Eye Report post Posted March 2, 2002 I imagine Austin will be the one to beat them in the end, in the 'starrcade 97' blowoff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JaKyL25 Report post Posted March 2, 2002 I was thinking about this a few weeks ago, that pretty much every major star in the WWF now during the nWo invasion kind of has a touchstone character in WCW during their nWo ivasion. For Example: The Rock=Sting Each man is the last person anyone would expect to join the nWo. Sting was WCW's flagship, home-grown super-face, and The Rock is the WWF's flagship home-grown super-face. Steve Austin=Randy Savage Aging, crazy superstar whose most athletic days are behind him, but who can still tear it up in the ring. Very unstable, flip-flopping the heel/face line a bunch over the last few years. Triple H=Lex Luger Musclebound freakish star who nobody trusts or likes except Rock/Sting, a trust forged through years of feuding, and even that trust is suspect. Chris Jericho=Ric Flair Cocky heel who assembles lackeys around him to keep titles. Not an initial target, but his time will come. The Undertaker=The Giant Big, unstoppable (without weapons) heel. A dominant force to be reckoned with, but also very likely to join the nWo due to his ties with McMahon(UT)/weak will(Giant). The only wild card now is Kurt Angle. Whose side is he on? He sides with Vince, but also presumably doesn't want the WWF to fold. He even went so far as to go undercover in the Alliance in order to SAVE the WWF. BUT then again, he may be so pissed that he got no respect or recognition for this heroic act that he's willing to take out his anger towards the fans by joining the nWo. Just an observation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest converge241 Report post Posted March 2, 2002 Good observations. Its strange how you can see those simialrities mirrored. the more things change, the more they stat the same i guess. Who gets put in the DDP role? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Army Eye Report post Posted March 2, 2002 Rock and Sting do have some similarities there. Maybe Hogan will win at Wrestlemania but somewhere down the line after the NWO has beaten everybody else, Rock will win in a rematch to vanquish the NWO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tony149 Report post Posted March 2, 2002 I think SCSA will play the role of Sting. Since Austin's already turned heel twice in the last year. They'll use that as proof he's nWo, then Austin starts attacking everybody before beating Hogan in the blow off match that probably won't end like Starrcade '97. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Man They Call Texas Blu Report post Posted March 2, 2002 The Players 1997/98 vs. 2002 The Mastermind Formerly- Eric Bishoff Now- Vinnie Mac The man who thought he had take on the NWO Formerly- Roddy Piper Now- The Rock The man gave the NWO a serious challenge Formerly- Sting Now- SCSA Company fan favorite turned bad Formerly- Randy Savage Now- HHH Veteran who comes up short every time he challenges the NWO Formerly- Ric Flair Now- Ric Flair or maybe UT These are only my opinions Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Some Guy Report post Posted March 2, 2002 I'd give Booker T the DDP role. He is a heel so it makes some sense for nWo to want him. He could turn them down, beat them up, and turn face. Maybe he could get a push this way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Army Eye Report post Posted March 3, 2002 Sounds good to me, Some Guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vyce Report post Posted March 3, 2002 I kind of think it's pointless to have a "Sting" now. IF the plan was to turn more wrestlers into NWO members (and I do NOT like that idea at all), than maybe I could see it. If it's just Hogan, Hall & Nash, there's no need really for a "Sting". You'll just have the 3 heels in the NWO fight 3 faces (most likely, Austin, Rock, & HHH). It's all crap. Vince's storyline reasoning for bringing in the NWO was to destroy the WWF....when all they'll really be doing is feud with the top faces. For the rest of the roster, it's business as usual. Until or unless they have the NWO start to take over the fed, a la WCW, then a Sting really isn't needed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JaKyL25 Report post Posted March 3, 2002 Oh yeah, I did forget the DDP role in my original post. In the 96 invasion, DDP was an upper-midcarder, but not really part of the main nWo storyline at first (He was still fighting with Eddy over that worthless Battlebowl ring I believe). I don't think he ever really entered the nWo's radar until sometime around Starrcade '96, when the nWo beat him down during his U.S. title tournament final with "Latino Jesus", Eddy Guerrero (Side note: Somebody on the internet used to call Eddy "Latino Jesus"; it might have been in RSPW, I forget. Who was it? I always thought that was cool.) after he turned down membership with them. DDP eventually used this heat with the nWo to propel himself to the upper-card and eventually become a 3-time, 3-time, 3-time WCW Champion. So therefore, for the DDP role now, we need an upper-midcarder who shows potential and who could really use just a little extra push into the upper-card that matches (and victories) over major nWo members could provide. Rob Van Dam, anyone? Side note: Is it just me, or is it a major slight on the writing that Booker T and DDP aren't doing anything against the nWo? I'll (reluctantly) accept that the likes of HHH, Jericho, Angle, and Kane are ignoring the invaders for now, as they haven't been affected in any sort of negative way whatsoever yet, and thus have no reason to care (yet). But Booker and DDP have already lived through this, and DDP especially was one of the biggest thorns in the nWo's side, and did more to stop them than anyone outside of Sting and Luger (And Sting and Luger even eventually joined, but I'd rather forget the nWo Wolfpac ever existed). Therefore, Booker and DDP should be doing everything they can to stop the nWo before it can really get off of the ground. Page wore tape around his ribs constantly because of these guys, they destroyed the federation that made him a star, and now they're threatening to destroy the only place left where he could possibly BE a star, and what does he care? He'd rather help Christian become more optimistic? I call BS. For shame, writers, for shame. Jericho is another story. While it is true that in WCW he had brief feuds with nWo members Nick Patrick, Masa Chono, Syxx, and Konnan, was the first person to pin an nWo member (Nick Patrick), and also was the first person to win a title from the nWo (he beat Syxx for the CW title), he never really was affected by the nWo the way most other people were. He seemed to just get his licks in, either win or lose the brief feud, and escape unnoticed to go fight Stinko Malenko or Quasi Juice Guerrera or Ron Mysterio, Jr., or some other agent of Jo-Jo Dillon's Conspiracy. The nWo to Jericho was never anything more than another group of wrestlers. They never targeted him, he never targeted them. Plus they helped him beat Austin at No Way Out. Therefore I DO accept Jericho's current lack of attention to the nWo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Army Eye Report post Posted March 3, 2002 It's all crap. Vince's storyline reasoning for bringing in the NWO was to destroy the WWF....when all they'll really be doing is feud with the top faces. That's what drives me crazy. They're not trying to destroy the fed. They're just another generic heel faction, who has a couple enemies and leaves everyone else alone. Bah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted March 3, 2002 welcome to wwf style booking guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest WWF4Life Report post Posted March 3, 2002 Surely the nWo are destroying the WWF by taking out the big names, namely Rock and Austin. Then, when Austin and Rock are out of the picture, it's up to other guys to stop them. It won't happen, but it would be a good way to elevate guys like Van Dam and Edge, by joining in the fight. That hasn't even been addressed yet...where do the other WWF guys fit in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vyce Report post Posted March 4, 2002 That's what drives me crazy. They're not trying to destroy the fed. They're just another generic heel faction, who has a couple enemies and leaves everyone else alone. Bah That was the problem with the Alliance (well, one of them). Instead of "taking over" the WWF, they were Just Another Heel Group. That's one of the reasons why the Alliance didn't work, and it could be a big reason why the nWo angle will not work (it's too early yet to call the nWo a total failure). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted March 4, 2002 What if... ...what if the nWo runs through the WWF, then Ric Flair get's enough of it. Since he knows the nWo just as well as anyone else, HE brings it onto himself to fend off the nWo, so he brings back The Four Horsemen for one more ride, to save the WWF... ...Ric Flair, Chris Benoit, DDP, and Chris Jericho, with Arn Anderson in the "Manager" role. I would mark out for this unlike anything ever before. Then they build it up to the Survivor Series once again, for a huge main event in Hogan/Hall/Nash/HHH Vs. Flair/Benoit/DDP/Jericho... ...ok, maybe I'm just dreaming, but this could just be cool as hell if you ask me. Have a team of guys that actuall have DEALT with the nWo before, to take them on once and for all, and MAYBE it could add some closure to not only THIS nWo, but the initial WCW angle... ...and Flair, DDP, Benoit, or Jericho, any of those guys could play the role of "Sting". Plus, having this group of guys against the likes of Hogan/Nash/Hall/HHH (maybe), would make for some good matches for the most part... ...as Benoit/Flair/DDP/Jericho could pull out some decent matches from the nWo, and these other guys would be recieveing some GREAT rubs by being in this angle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Army Eye Report post Posted March 4, 2002 That was the problem with the Alliance (well, one of them). Instead of "taking over" the WWF, they were Just Another Heel Group. That's one of the reasons why the Alliance didn't work, and it could be a big reason why the nWo angle will not work (it's too early yet to call the nWo a total failure). Yeah. Amazingly they did not learn from the Alliance disaster. It's still early in the angle, so we shouldn't pass judgement yet, except that Wrestlemania is coming up. The NWO needs to take over/destroy pretty damn soon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest caboose Report post Posted March 4, 2002 why doesn't the site log me in automatically? i'm pretty sure rock will be the new sting, i mean i can see vince and the nWo screwing rock at mania, rock will leave to fully promote scorpion king, and then for being screwed 4 years running rock will comeback pissed and absoloutely go nuts on the nWo this is as long as vince books nWo as true badasses i think hbk is gonna be the 4th member anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest converge241 Report post Posted March 4, 2002 I have a sinking feeling if michaels coms back at some point theyll have a NWO vs DX match and X-Pac and Michaels will turn on HHH and join up with Hogan, Hall , and Nash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted March 4, 2002 What I think some people don't realize is that the nWo is targeting the WWF by targeting Austin and The Rock. They are the WWF right now, they are the driving characters behind the company. Take Rock and Austin out of the federation and its no longer the WWF that we know, its something else entirely. Say the nWo "destroy" some midcarder, like Scotty II Hotty. Does that really effect the direction of the company one iota? But if they manage to take out Rock and Austin, the whole complexion of the WWF changes for the worse. The federation is poisoned by extracting essential parts of its being not by attacking every worker in the federation at once. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted March 4, 2002 at Wrestlemania autin and rock are getting taken out which means the wwf will be in a leadership crisis, it'll make for good tv to see who'll step up to the plate. at least this is what i hope happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BlackRainbow1025 Report post Posted March 5, 2002 They should have the nWo totally annihilate Rock and Austin (cheating of course). They could add maybe one or two more members, but that's it. Have them start to win a couple titles. They are obviously unstoppable and the big guns are out so no one can help. Then, and only then, Jericho can decide that this has gone too far and step in to take over the reigns of the WWF. He could lead the charge against the nWo. He saw them ruin WCW and he won't sit back anymore to watch them ruin the WWF. It would get him over with the fans huge, give him some credibility, and be a compelling storyline for the first time in a while. Oh yeah, it would make the nWo seem strong as well, essentially getting them over as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted March 5, 2002 Good storyline, one problem it would mean former wcw talent being headliners vince'll die before that happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
