Hey, Lesnar is a Face!

[Guest Anglesault]

Yay! Brock will be a face! This means they have a valid reason to feed Angle, Benoit and Guerrero to Brock!

[Guest Pop Culture God]

Yay! Brock will be a face! This means they have a valid reason to feed Angle, Benoit and Guerrero to Brock!

You mean we'll get to see **** star main events EVERY SmackDown!?!?!

 

 

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

[Guest Anglesault]

We see them now. Without TUW around. If you don't want to push them, don't use them as fodder.

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

If you don't want to push them, don't use them as fodder.

then what do you do with them?

[Guest Pop Culture God]

We see them now. Without TUW around. If you don't want to push them, don't use them as fodder.

Yeah, but now you can use above-average workers like Lesnar to work with Workrate GODS to get both of them over at the same time.

 

 

Also consider that since Angle would be the heel, Lesnar would only have to sell for most pf the match, and we know he can do that well.

[Guest Anglesault]

If you don't want to push them, don't use them as fodder.

then what do you do with them?

Just do what they're doing with them. If they book it like 10/17 Smackdown, it can be good. If they book it like every other show in the last month and a half, it will be a disaster. But at least they aren't being brought up for the explicit purpose of jobbing to Brock.

 

Yeah, but now you can use above-average workers like Lesnar

 

I still haven't see any above average qualities.

[Guest Pop Culture God]

If you don't want to push them, don't use them as fodder.

then what do you do with them?

Just do what they're doing with them. If they book it like 10/17 Smackdown, it can be good. If they book it like every other show in the last month and a half, it will be a disaster. But at least they aren't being brought up for the explicit purpose of jobbing to Brock.

 

Yeah, but now you can use above-average workers like Lesnar

 

I still haven't see any above average qualities.

1. I don't want Angle just jobbing to Brock. I'd like to see a three month feud where both men win battles and someone wins the blow-off match. You seem to think that I want a WWF Superstars squash, I want an NWA bloodfeud.

 

 

2. Then you're an idoit whose let his biases get the best of him.

[Guest Anglesault]

1. I don't want Angle just jobbing to Brock. I'd like to see a three month feud where both men win battles and someone wins the blow-off match. You seem to think that I want a WWF Superstars squash, I want an NWA bloodfeud.

I'd rather him have good matches in the tag scene, honestly. It's better than spending three months with brock and still maybe losing.

 

2. Then you're an idoit whose let his biases get the best of him.

 

Have i missed something lately? The last Brock match i saw was Chuck Palumbo, numer 7 in a string of brutally bad matches.

[Guest Pop Culture God]

1. I don't want Angle just jobbing to Brock. I'd like to see a three month feud where both men win battles and someone wins the blow-off match. You seem to think that I want a WWF Superstars squash, I want an NWA bloodfeud.

I'd rather him have good matches in the tag scene, honestly. It's better than spending three months with brock and still maybe losing.

 

2. Then you're an idoit whose let his biases get the best of him.

 

Have i missed something lately? The last Brock match i saw was Chuck Palumbo, numer 7 in a string of brutally bad matches.

But, man I would rather see Angle recognized as the biggest heel in the WWE with a World Title match than a slow-burn feud with Benoit. I've seen Benoit/Angle it was good but I crave more. I must know how good Angle/Lesnar will be. It's the first time since Rock/Austin that a match-up has given me so much speculation to it's prospective quality.

 

 

They were brutally bad because they were two-minute Goldberg style squashes to build him up as a monster. They weren't supposed to be good man. Consider that he drug a good match out of UNDERTAKER, something Angle didn't do.

[Guest Anglesault]

They were brutally bad because they were two-minute Goldberg style squashes to build him up as a monster. They weren't supposed to be good man. Consider that he drug a good match out of UNDERTAKER, something Angle didn't do.

When? I heard Hell in a cell was liked just because of the blood. I heard it was slow. Any time a match is described as "Well, it was slow, but..." I tune out.

 

But, man I would rather see Angle recognized as the biggest heel in the WWE with a World Title match

 

He already is a the biggest heel. Jobbing in a world title match won't make him more of the biggest heel.

 

I must know how good Angle/Lesnar will be.

 

***

 

There we go, I just spared us the trouble.

[Guest Pop Culture God]

They were brutally bad because they were two-minute Goldberg style squashes to build him up as a monster. They weren't supposed to be good man. Consider that he drug a good match out of UNDERTAKER, something Angle didn't do.

When? I heard Hell in a cell was liked just because of the blood. I heard it was slow. Any time a match is described as "Well, it was slow, but..." I tune out.

 

But, man I would rather see Angle recognized as the biggest heel in the WWE with a World Title match

 

He already is a the biggest heel. Jobbing in a world title match won't make him more of the biggest heel.

 

I must know how good Angle/Lesnar will be.

 

***

 

There we go, I just spared us the trouble.

1. Hmmmm. Well, I would much rather see a match built on hatred and sheer bruatlity than most of the flippy-floppy CW stuff on SD! right now. It felt like part AJPW, Part WWE, Part Old-School NWA. It felt good man, real good.

 

2.Well, if Lesnar was the face and he was the heel then he WOULD job in the end, but not before he beat him for the title. That's how you build a feud. Heel wins heel wins heel wins face wins heel wins heel wins. blow-off.

 

3. You're full of shit.

 

There I just saved someone else the trouble of stating the obvious.

[Guest Anglesault]

1. Hmmmm. Well, I would much rather see a match built on hatred and sheer bruatlity than most of the flippy-floppy CW stuff on SD! right now. It felt like part AJPW, Part WWE, Part Old-School NWA. It felt good man, real good.

Was that a nice way of saying "it was slow, but..."?

 

 

2.Well, if Lesnar was the face and he was the heel then he WOULD job in the end, but not before he beat him for the title. That's how you build a feud. Heel wins heel wins heel wins face wins heel wins heel wins. blow-off.

 

Oh, goodie. I still don't want to see this feud. I'd much rather see Angle/Benoit feud over the belt than Angle/Brock so Angle can get a two month title run.

 

3. You're full of shit.

 

How so? My opinion of the match. The minute that god damned bearhug hits, I take off at least a star. It's just THAT bad looking, and that boring. That *** is a bearhug free match. I'd say if the both work hard, we can get ***1/2.

[Guest thebigjig]

How so? My opinion of the match. The minute that god damned bearhug hits, I take off at least a star. It's just THAT bad looking, and that boring. That *** is a bearhug free match. I'd say if the both work hard, we can get ***1/2.

Sault, I think you're going to be pleasantly surprised. Have you read the reports about the house show meetings between the two?

 

If they are allowed to craft the match like Funk/Briscoe instead of Rock/Brock, then it'll be great. Sure, we haven't seen it yet, but I honestly think the two of them are capable of putting on at least a **** match

[Guest Anglesault]

How so? My opinion of the match. The minute that god damned bearhug hits, I take off at least a star. It's just THAT bad looking, and that boring. That *** is a bearhug free match. I'd say if the both work hard, we can get ***1/2.

Sault, I think you're going to be pleasantly surprised. Have you read the reports about the house show meetings between the two?

I don't belive in people's opinions in house show reports. My experience is that the only thing you can take to the bank is the results.

[Guest Pop Culture God]

1. Hmmmm. Well, I would much rather see a match built on hatred and sheer bruatlity than most of the flippy-floppy CW stuff on SD! right now. It felt like part AJPW, Part WWE, Part Old-School NWA. It felt good man, real good.

Was that a nice way of saying "it was slow, but..."?

 

 

2.Well, if Lesnar was the face and he was the heel then he WOULD job in the end, but not before he beat him for the title. That's how you build a feud. Heel wins heel wins heel wins face wins heel wins heel wins. blow-off.

 

Oh, goodie. I still don't want to see this feud. I'd much rather see Angle/Benoit feud over the belt than Angle/Brock so Angle can get a two month title run.

 

3. You're full of shit.

 

How so? My opinion of the match. The minute that god damned bearhug hits, I take off at least a star. It's just THAT bad looking, and that boring. That *** is a bearhug free match. I'd say if the both work hard, we can get ***1/2.

No, it was my saying "I prefer matches that actually MEAN SOMETHING instead of two CW's going out there and playing flippy-floppy for 5 minutes."

 

 

Well, since no one in the WWE's front office INCLUDING Paul Heyman wants Benoit any higher than WWE Title challenger, I say your shit out of luck for that. Oh and sue me if I think Brock/Angle could be classic. Taht's just my opinion. Heaven forbid we get NEW matches.

 

 

Your full of shit because you gave out a star arting to match between two people who have never faced each other before, and even if they did one would be doing so in a role you've never seen him in. Once again, you're full of shit.

[Guest Anglesault]

No, it was my saying "I prefer matches that actually MEAN SOMETHING instead of two CW's going out there and playing flippy-floppy for 5 minutes."

So you MUST be slow if you want your match to mean something. Okay.

 

Well, since no one in the WWE's front office INCLUDING Paul Heyman wants Benoit any higher than WWE Title challenger, I say your shit out of luck for that

 

That's a shame. It really is.

 

Oh and sue me if I think Brock/Angle could be classic.

 

On what grounds? I don't Recall a Test/Brooklyn Brawler match ever happening. Should I assume it will be ****?

 

Heaven forbid we get NEW matches.

 

If it anit broke, don't fix it. As long as they are booked well, Angle/Benoit aint broke.

 

Your full of shit because you gave out a star arting to match between two people who have never faced each other before

 

I've seen their work seperately. I hate the bearhug spot SO much. If there is no bearhug, the match must be slow (Or "mean something," or whatever) I hate slow matches. There we go.

[Guest Pop Culture God]

No, it was my saying "I prefer matches that actually MEAN SOMETHING instead of two CW's going out there and playing flippy-floppy for 5 minutes."

So you MUST be slow if you want your match to mean something. Okay.

 

Well, since no one in the WWE's front office INCLUDING Paul Heyman wants Benoit any higher than WWE Title challenger, I say your shit out of luck for that

 

That's a shame. It really is.

 

Oh and sue me if I think Brock/Angle could be classic.

 

On what grounds? I don't Recall a Test/Brooklyn Brawler match ever happening. Should I assume it will be ****?

 

Heaven forbid we get NEW matches.

 

If it anit broke, don't fix it. As long as they are booked well, Angle/Benoit aint broke.

 

Your full of shit because you gave out a star arting to match between two people who have never faced each other before

 

I've seen their work seperately. I hate the bearhug spot SO much. If there is no bearhug, the match must be slow (Or "mean something," or whatever) I hate slow matches. There we go.

*Sarcastic Clapping* Way to miss the point AS(shole). I was saying that the match was important. It finally showed Lesnar as the monster heel he is, and depite what you may say it got him over. He was getting a legit reaction from the fans since the Taker feud began and now he's the biggest face on SD! I was pointing out the fact that it was more important to me that the match matter than if the guys were doing somersault planchas. I can adapt my taste to incorperate varying styles. You and Scott Kieth evidently cannot.

 

Well, Benoit certainly desreves a run, but no one ever said that if you deserved it, you got it.

 

Well, consider that Angle is one of the top workers in the world, he would be dominating most of the match if he's a heel and that Brock's ability is very underrated and I think you have the markings of classic match.

 

"If it ain't broke don't fix it." is what GOT THEM IN THIS MESS! They pushed the same four guys and now two are gone and two are too old or selfish to be of worth. Brock Lesnar is the future of wrestling. He and Kurt will dictate where wrestling goes in the next decade.

 

Well, I've seen him do one bearhug. And it made sense since it pushed him as an unstoppable monster and got him heat against Rock by beating Hogan with it. YOU on the other hand cannot get it out of your mind and constantly bring it up.

 

Once again: You are full of shit.

[Guest Anglesault]

I can adapt my taste to incorperate varying styles. You and Scott Kieth evidently cannot.

 

I can to. I just don't count "plodding for lack of a better thing to do" as a style.

 

Well, consider that Angle is one of the top workers in the world, he would be dominating most of the match if he's a heel and that Brock's ability is very underrated and I think you have the markings of classic match.

 

On paper, RVD/Jeff Hardy ladder match at summerslam should have been the best thing ever. We got THAT instead. I still think that Brock is over rated.

 

Brock Lesnar is the future of wrestling

 

May God help us all. If that is true, that I'll find better things to do on Monday and Thursday.

 

 

Well, I've seen him do one bearhug. And it made sense since it pushed him as an unstoppable monster and got him heat against Rock by beating Hogan with it. YOU on the other hand cannot get it out of your mind and constantly bring it up.

 

The bearhug is in every match, it takes up copious amounts of time, it hasn't been seen as an over or legit move in 20 years, and you could fit a small animal between Brock's arms and the victim. Easily my least favorite spot in wrestling today.

[Guest Pop Culture God]

1. I was referring to the Power Style. You know... Vader? Streiners? Rock? Anyone? Anyone?

 

2. So that gives you free reign to decide with no evidence whatsoever that the match will suck? Say it with me kids: FULL OF SHIT

 

3. No you won't. You've said that a dozen times and you always keep watching. Quit bitching.

 

4. Umm wasn't in the Rock match, or the Hardys, or RVD, or Holly, or UT... or in any other match except the Hogan match. Say it with me again kids: FULL OF SHIT.

[Guest Anglesault]

1. I was referring to the Power Style. You know... Vader? Streiners? Rock? Anyone? Anyone?

I don't think you can compare Brock to Vader.

 

2. So that gives you free reign to decide with no evidence whatsoever that the match will suck? Say it with me kids: FULL OF SHIT

 

Evidence: Brock has had one good match. Evidence: Angle is so-so in his carrying abilities. Conclusion: Bomb.

 

3. No you won't. You've said that a dozen times and you always keep watching. Quit bitching.

 

He's ruining my viewing experience. I watch less and less each week. There as a span in August where I barerly watched for a half hout each week. I totally forgot about the last two PPV's until the day of. I missed Eddy/Edge SD! because I didn't care one bit. I flipped off of Angle/benoit to wach the Sopranos the night of Unforgiven. This NEVER would have happened to years ago. I'm just getting very disinterested, because I can't stand the guy they are pushing, and it annoys me that they aren't pushing certain people.

 

 

Umm wasn't in the Rock match, or the Hardys, or RVD, or Holly, or UT... or in any other match except the Hogan match. Say it with me again kids: FULL OF SHIT.

 

It was in the Cena match. And the Palumbo match. And the Rikishi match. And the Henry match. And it sure as fuck was in the RVD matches, I have a pictures of it.

[Guest thebigjig]

Shit... SCREW RAW! This Sault/Pop Culture God feud is more interesting than Kane/HHH could ever possibly hope to be

[Guest thebigjig]

Brock Lesnar is the future of wrestling

 

May God help us all. If that is true, that I'll find better things to do on Monday and Thursday.

 

 

Oh come on, I wish some of you would give Lesnar a break. At least watch how the guy learns and improves for AT LEAST a year before automatically assuming that he'll suck forever. I'm sure Chris Benoit didn't get to be as good as he is today in less than a year or two

[Guest Anglesault]

Brock Lesnar is the future of wrestling

 

May God help us all. If that is true, that I'll find better things to do on Monday and Thursday.

 

 

Oh come on, I wish some of you would give Lesnar a break. At least watch how the guy learns and improves for AT LEAST a year before automatically assuming that he'll suck forever. I'm sure Chris Benoit didn't get to be as good as he is today in less than a year or two

Benoit also didn't get the world title over at least 6 worthy people in less than a year either. Apparently, Brock is more ready than Kurt/Chris/Chris/Eddy/Rob/Booker. And if this is as good as it gets, blah.

[Guest thebigjig]

Benoit also didn't get the world title over at least 6 worthy people in less than a year either. Apparently, Brock is more ready than Kurt/Chris/Chris/Eddy/Rob/Booker. And if this is as good as it gets, blah.

I can justify that and I completely understand why he was pushed ahead of everyone else simply because he has the look that screams PUSH ME. I mean seriously... do you expect a guy that looks like THAT to flounder in the midcard for 2 years?

[Guest Spaceman Spiff]

Have i missed something lately? The last Brock match i saw was Chuck Palumbo, numer 7 in a string of brutally bad matches.

The Brock/Chuck match was far from "brutally bad". Granted, it wasn't on the level of a Benoit/Angle match, but I found the match to be enjoyable. "Perfectly acceptable wrestling" as SK would say.

 

Oh, and Pop Culture God, just let it go. You're just going to end up going in circles w/ AS.

[Guest Anglesault]

Benoit also didn't get the world title over at least 6 worthy people in less than a year either. Apparently, Brock is more ready than Kurt/Chris/Chris/Eddy/Rob/Booker. And if this is as good as it gets, blah.

I can justify that and I completely understand why he was pushed ahead of everyone else simply because he has the look that screams PUSH ME. I mean seriously... do you expect a guy that looks like THAT to flounder in the midcard for 2 years?

He looks like Baby Huey. And No, that is NOT Justification, that's bullshit. This is the World Wrestling Federation, not the World Look Federation.

[Guest thebigjig]

Benoit also didn't get the world title over at least 6 worthy people in less than a year either. Apparently, Brock is more ready than Kurt/Chris/Chris/Eddy/Rob/Booker. And if this is as good as it gets, blah.

I can justify that and I completely understand why he was pushed ahead of everyone else simply because he has the look that screams PUSH ME. I mean seriously... do you expect a guy that looks like THAT to flounder in the midcard for 2 years?

He looks like Baby Huey.

I'm starting to worry about your sanity Sault...

[Guest Anglesault]

THAT face looks evil? It looks like a 14 year old boy who hasn't quite hit puberty. Oooh, but has muscles, so let's push his useless ass over the whole roster.

[Guest thebigjig]

THAT face looks evil? It looks like a 14 year old boy who hasn't quite hit puberty. Oooh, but has muscles, so let's push his useless ass over the whole roster.

lol I hardly consider him useless... just because he may not be as good as Angle doesn't put him in the "mark henry useless" category. Lesnar is talented, he just hasn't been put in there with anyone that can really "go" with him. I've seen some of his OVW stuff and he's really quite good, so reserve judgement until you see him in the ring with guys like Benoit and Angle or hell even Edge before you call him useless just because he can't carry Undertaker to a **** match

[Guest Spaceman Spiff]

Stop before you get sucked in to the argument, for the sake of your sanity.