some opinions needed on two tapes

[Guest permagrinning]

Yes, I know this may irritate some of the more established people that visit this board but I wanted an opinion on which looks better. I'm fairly new to Puro, so that's why I'm asking for a little help out

 

Which looks better?

 

Best of Hidaka and Togo (far east connection

Hidaka and Togo are the best independent tag team around and one of the best duos in the world for their athletic, exciting style. See these two take on the best in Japan on this almost 4-hour compilation. If you are a true wrestling fan, you need to see these two at their best right here!

 

1. Ikuto Hidaka vs. Tiger Mask 1/12/02

2. Hidaka & Tomohiro Ishii vs. Tiger Mask & Hideki Nishida 2/3/02

3. Hidaka, Dick Togo, & Masao Orihara vs. Great Sasuke, Tiger Mask, & Hideki Nishida 3/23/02

4. Hidaka vs. Kazuya Yuasa

5. Hidaka, Togo, & Macho Punp vs. Great Sasuke, Kazuya Yuasa, & Hideki Nishida 3/20/02

6. 5 vs. 5 Singles Series- Hidaka, Togo, Macho Pump, Orihara, & Ishii vs. Sasuke, Tiger Mask, Gran Hamada, Yuasa, & NIshida (Features: Yuasa vs. Ishii, Nishida vs. Orihara, Hamada vs. Pump, Hidaka vs. Tiger Mask, Togo vs. Sasuke)

7. Hidaka & Togo vs. Tatsuhito Takaiwa & Noahiro Hoshikawa 6/27/02

8. Hidaka vs. Hoshikawa 7/7/02

9. Hidaka vs. Tomohiro Ishii 8/15/02

10. Togo vs. Great Sauke 8/15/02

11. Togo vs. Tiger Mask 8/25/02 .

 

Best of Minoru Tanaka

1. Minoru Tanaka vs. Ikuto Hidaka

2. Tanaka & Tiger Mask vs. Gran Naniwa & Masaaki Mochizuki

3. Tanaka vs. Shinjiro Otani

4. Tanaka vs. Minoru Fujita

5. Tanaka, CIMA, Sumo Daddy Fuji & Jushin Liger vs. Shinjiro Otani, Kendo Kashin, Koji Kanemoto & Tatsuhito Takaiwa

6. Tanaka vs. Kendo Kashin

7. Tanaka & Koji Kanemoto vs. Shinjiro Otani & Tatsuhito Takaiwa

8. Tanaka, Takiawa & Kanemoto vs. Shinya Makabe, Kashin & El Samurai

9. Tanaka vs. Tatsuhito Takaiwa

10. Tanaka & Kanemoto vs. Takaiwa & Shinya Makabe

11. Tanaka vs. Curry Man

12. Tanaka, Kanemoto & Kid Romeo vs. Jushin Liger, El Samurai & Kashin

13. Tanaka & Mochizuki vs. Minoru Fujita & Ikuto Hidaka

14. Tanaka vs. Masahito Kakihara- New Japan vs. All Japan

15. Tanaka, El Samurai & Shinya Makabe vs. Dr. Wagner Jr, Silver King & Kashin

16. Tanaka vs. Shoichi Funaki

17. Tanaka vs. Minoru Fujita- Big Japan Jr. tournament ‘98

18. Tanaka vs. Makabe

19. Tanaka vs. Katsuyori Shibata

20. Tanaka vs. Tajiri

21. Tanaka vs. Hidaka

22. Tanaka vs. Dr. Wagner Jr. .

[Guest Jubuki]

Neither tape is much of a 'best of'. However, I've heard good things about Hidaka/Hoshikawa, so that's probably where I'd go (although I'd also go there because Tanaka is Kanemoto with more flipping).

[Guest permagrinning]

by that do you mean fairly bland with some flips?

[Guest Jubuki]

No, he's anything but bland. He's just not one to grasp the nuances of a great match.

[Guest PlatypusFool]

I'm not a Tanaka fan by any means, due to piss poor limb selling while he is on offence and a lack of realistic offence (although he is world class at selling the pain whilst in submission holds). His comp does look reasonably fun, but i'd also go with Togo / Hidaka, especially as I've heard good things about Hidaka vs. Tiger Mask (both times), and Togo is still fairly cool.

 

However, if you really want a great light heavyweight tape featuring Togo, pick up MPro - Heartbreak 96 yesterday, it's bad. In the good way.

[Guest wolverine]

I picked up Heartbreak '96 last year and boy did that camera work suck. A relatively fun tape though.

[Guest permagrinning]

is that the heartbreak in lucha land? I picked that up a while ago, one I treasure. That's why the Togo tage caught my eye, I was curious about Hidaka as well, heard he was up and coming so that really looked interesting.

[Guest Jubuki]

Hidaka's a fun guy. He's no miracle worker or anything, but I'd say he's closer to '96 Ohtani than he is to, say, '02 CIMA. Maybe '94/'95 Ohtani is a better analogy. A small dude, too, but he's fun to watch and follows through better than Tanaka on specific elements of his matches.

[Guest permagrinning]

right on, sounds fun. If you know anything better with him, would you let me know? The tape sounds fun from all accounts, nothing serious but fun. Curious in your comparison of Ohtani and CIMA. Ohtani 96, I thought was what was considered the height of his developement and match quality. CIMA 02, was a dissapointing year for him because he didn't do any type of developement. Is that what you're getting at, or something else?

[Guest Jubuki]

Something along those lines...but mainly that Hidaka is willing to perform and draw in the audience a la Ohtani back in the day, whereas CIMA is much more robotic and unapproachable with just about everything he does.