So How long until we see Goldberg?

[Guest thebigjig]

In a little more than a year, WWE has gone through the following stars/scenarios in desperate attempts to generate interest in their failing product:

 

The purchase and “invasion” of WCW

 

The return of Ric Flair

 

The nWo

 

Roster Split

 

The return of Hulkamania

 

Eric Bischoff… General Manager of RAW

 

And now… Scott Steiner

 

Imagine how you would’ve reacted two years ago, if a wrestling psychic (Garey Spivey perhaps?) prophesized that in a few short years you would see Hulk Hogan take on the Rock at WrestleMania in the main event? Or that the original nWo would wreak havoc throughout the WWF? Or that Eric Fucking Bischoff would actually come to terms with Vince McMahon and would debut as the main bad guy boss of RAW? I think it’s safe to assume that we all would’ve laughed our asses off and dismissed all of these ideas as your typical fantasy booking geeks wetdreams. But more than that, I know that I would’ve thought “wow, those are CANT miss, sure fire ideas.”

 

Well, here we are, 2002 heading into 2003, and most of the angles mentioned above were met with little initial success, and very little long term success. So now WWE is pulling the Steiner card. I’ll reserve judgement on this until I see where it’s going, keeping an open mind, but I’m convinced that it’s only a short matter of time until we see Bill Goldberg and all his glory on our television screens. Now whether you like him or not, there’s no denying that Goldberg in WWE would create some buzz, for a little while at least. But after Goldberg, what else is left? Who else is left? What other desperation moves can Vince McMahon turn to? It’s a scary thought that in such a short amount of time, WWE has used up almost every “dream scenario” available to them. Dream scenarios that took years to build and of course were completely blown by the morons running the WWE circus. So what will happen after WWE blows their load on all of the potential Goldberg vs. HHH, Steve Austin, Rock matches?

[Guest Cataclysm911]

Well, I may be in the minority, in fact, I know that I am here at the SmartMark Forums, but I actually like Goldberg. He entertains me. So, Goldberg coming in wouldn't bother me one bit.

[Guest The Mighty Damaramu]

I don't think the question is if you like Goldberg or not Cataclysm. The question is what's left? What's left? I suppose the WWE could look to the far east.

[Guest razazteca]

Bob Sapp will be Unified Champ at Wrestlemania then he defends the belt against "brother" Mark Henry. Then Psyco Sid gets a shot at the title and wins the belt some time in March, then Kevin Nash gets a shot in April.

 

Stephanie is pregnet and the father is her brother Shane.

 

By July 2003 the WWE stocks become as worthless and is sold to Rubert Murdoch, Smackdown moves to FX.

 

WWA become the #1 wrestling show on Cable TV. Followed by UFC on Fox Sports Net and PRIDE on ESPN2.

[Guest Downhome]

I would also love Goldberg showing up. I don't care if you like it or not, but I would mark out unlike ever before if he showed up...

 

...I hope it happens, period.

[Guest Downhome]

I don't think the question is if you like Goldberg or not Cataclysm. The question is what's left? What's left? I suppose the WWE could look to the far east.

...and then the far east vomits on WWE, and kicks their ass.

[Guest The Mighty Damaramu]

And the far east takes back it's wrestlers that belong there putting on great matches....oh and they steal Kurt Angle as well.

[Guest Downhome]

And the far east takes back it's wrestlers that belong there putting on great matches....oh and they steal Kurt Angle as well.

...and then I laugh my ass off and enjoy watching true Pro. Wrestling from now untill the end of time.

 

*sigh*

 

I wish WWE would REALLY go in a new dirrection, and begin a campaign to become Puroresu in America. I mean really let it go as far as it is there, in terms of quality, and sportsmanship.

[Guest thebigjig]

I'm telling ya, the direction they need to go in is molding themselves after the true old school early 80's NWA style with the emphasis on wrestling and storylines/blood feuds that make sense

[Guest Brian]

After the NWO failed, I don't think there's too much inscentive to go get the guy. At least actively, he'd have to drop his price a lot for that to happen. Hopefully Steiner fails and they drop the Goldberg idea.

[Guest thebigjig]

After the NWO failed, I don't think there's too much inscentive to go get the guy. At least actively, he'd have to drop his price a lot for that to happen. Hopefully Steiner fails and they drop the Goldberg idea.

In theory there's too much money to be made with Goldberg... Vince is getting desperate and alls it takes for him to give Goldberg anything he wants is for ratings to fall a little more along with attendance and merchandise. I would be SHOCKED if Goldberg isn't an active member of the WWE roster by the middle of 2003

[Guest CanadianChick]

I don't think that Goldberg would be a big-time ratings grabber anymore. He just might be passe now.

[Guest thebigjig]

I don't think that Goldberg would be a big-time ratings grabber anymore. He just might be passe now.

I'm pretty sure Goldberg would have more of a ratings impact than Scott Steiner

[Guest Human Fly]

If they get Goldberg (I personally would be surprised) then after that they can get Stone Cold back. He's already been gone for almost six months, him coming back would qualify as something big.

 

Something big isn't the answer the WWE just needs to wait until they catch lightning in a bottle again like Hulk Hogan or Stone Cold it's very possible that it won't be till around Wrestlemania 23 or something like that.

[Guest thebigjig]

Goldberg vs. Austin would draw tons of money, and I wouldn't be suprised if that ended up being WrestleMania's main event

[ChrisMWaters 0]

I believe that if Goldberg gets signed, Austin will get signed.

 

However, the question is if either of them want to come to WWE>

[Guest Trivia247]

WWE would rehire Old School and half dead wrestlers before they even Hire anyone remotely talented from Japan...

 

And I hope and pray Goldberg doesn't set one Nonwrestling crappy foot in WWE.

[Guest SP-1]

The thing about a Goldberg/Austin feud is that we know Austin has the chops to cut the promos and build it up on the mic.

 

. . . but does Goldberg? I mean, I watched WCW alot, went back and forth between the two shows frequently, even towards the end there. It never takes long to catch up on wrestling storylines anyway. But I've never gotten a huge mic vibe from Goldberg for some reason.

 

If it isn't booked well and the mic work sucks on either end of it, it will fail.

 

Before anything, Vince needs to overhaul the creative staff. Period.

 

-SP, who hates to say it, but it's true.

[Guest Dace59]

Goldberg appears to be doing "fine" in Japan.

I dont think he's going anywhere soon.

[Guest tombstone]

Goldberg coming in an only be a good thing with the only better option being an Austin return.

 

RAW's main problem, even with the CRAP storylines and directionless midcard is the fact that it is almost INCONCIEVABLE that HHH will drop the title to any of the available challengers.

During the WWF's prime run of 1998 - 2001 (starting at WMXIV and finishing at X-7) the WWF champ, be it Austin, Rock, Foley, HHH, Undertaker, or Kurt Angle always had a few choices for a credible opponet. It has been almost a year since I last went into a PPV not knowing who was walking out champion (Vengeance, Dec. 2001 being the last time I wasn't sure). This is no good.

HHH's previous heel run was such a success as the Rock, Chris Jericho and Mick Foley all presented credible challenges the Rock's subsequent reign was helped by great challenges from Benoit, Kane, HHH and Angle.

HHH has made himself look too good and even if RVD or Booker won, it would seem a fluke. So Goldberg / Austin coming in as a HOT face and going on a run of destruction demanding a shot at HHH's title would surely be a good move at least in the short term, providing must see TV, a good PPV buy rate and generally shaking everything up.

Also the midcard could reform without HHH's squash of the week.

It's a good thing, and a necessary thing.

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

Personally, I don't want Goldberg.

 

I think, however, if Steiner is a marketing success, they'll go with Goldberg. If he isn't, they won't. Both guys have about equal level of draw since WCW has been dead for nearly two years and nobody cares anymore.

 

Unlike BigJig, I don't think a wrestling revolution is going to get over, as Joe Sixpack can only take so many minutes of wrestling anymore before something breaks it up. However, there definitely needs to be a promo/match leveling, especially on Raw, and they need to stop holding back for the matches.

 

It's obvious that nobody will get over with punching and kicking, with no hardcore elements and nothing more athletic than a flying clothesline. Yet almost everyone in WWE besides Rey Mysterio is showing the fighting skills of Mark Henry.

 

I think the fact that Brock, who is supposed to be the company's great hope of putting this incredibly young guy into the main event scene, is not allowed to do the shooting star, is an obvious sign of these times. That could be SO OVER! But they won't do it. Why? I'm guessing to preserve the status of the guys who have been around longer.

 

The guys who CAN wrestle (Eddy, Angle, Benoit) are trying as hard as they can to fit their routine into the rest of the card. Now let's get the guys who can't wreslte on that kind of level and let them do things to make the matches more interesting.

 

Let's put a bladejob or two on free TV. Let's bump around a bit. Let's let the atheltic guys be athletic.

 

Watching WWE today is like watching a perverted version of "Billionaire Ted's Wrasslin Warroom." I can picture it now:

 

Vince: "How about you boys do something like those TNA X-matches?"

Jeff Hardy (totally drugged out of his mind): "Uh... No... OW OW MY SPINEOWOWOW"

Vince: "So, what can you do?"

Jeff: "Uh.. I can do this" (takes off shirt, female squealing is heard from every direction despite no females being in the room at all)

Vince: "Er... Yeah. Well, Jeff, I think what we're going to do is.. Are you there?"

Jeff (doodling on himself, looks up): "I'm sorry, what was your question again?"

[Guest kindredone]

Im not a fan of Goldberg,but if he would bring more viewers to WWE tv,than bring him in.

I dont think he's worth his asking price though...

If they could give him an agent like Arn or Finlay to help with his training for a month or so,then debut him,it might be ok.