Guest Karnage Report post Posted October 31, 2002 Well, what movies do you think are overrated? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ravenbomb Report post Posted October 31, 2002 Rocky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted October 31, 2002 Citizen Kane Fargo Taxi Driver...yeah, a little Jaws Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted October 31, 2002 Any Star Wars movie better not grace this thread. Except for Episode I... NO ONE would consider that shit overrated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ravenbomb Report post Posted October 31, 2002 nah, Taxi Driver is UNDERRATED. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest gthureson Report post Posted October 31, 2002 Apocalypse Now: Some nice bits, but for the most, extraordinarily dull. The Matrix: Plot by the numbers with passable acting and nice effects. Blade: Action without plot gets dull. And killing vampires isn't really a plot. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon: For the most part, pretty boring. Steel Magnolias: I can get into chick dramas at times...but nothing happens in this one that couldn't have been covered in half an hour. Unfortunately, it takes 2 hours. The Shining: Again, dull. The Crow: Passable action flick, nothing more. Lacks the impact of the graphic novel. Gladiator: Nothing really that special about it, dunno why it won any awards. Saving Private Ryan: Take away the first fifteen minutes and the last fifteen, and its nothing to write home about. I could probably think of more, but there is a few. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted October 31, 2002 Star Wars does get too much credit for everything.....Meesa Thinks its CRAP-oola Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted October 31, 2002 nah, Taxi Driver is UNDERRATED. How so, anyone you ever hear talk about the thing goes on about how classic it is. I could accept that it's not overrated (although I think it is), but I don't know anyone who would call it underrated. I think it's good, but not the classic it was billed as. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted October 31, 2002 Star Wars does get too much credit for everything.....Meesa Thinks its CRAP-oola You apparently didn't read my first post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest 5_moves_of_doom Report post Posted October 31, 2002 Ahem. Titanic Shakespear In Love Gladiator Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted October 31, 2002 Episode 1 and 2 are just spotfest special effect crap with some political religious BS in it. It made alot of money but leaves an empty feeling afterwards just like Jurassic Park sequels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DARRYLXWF Report post Posted October 31, 2002 Ti-Fucking-Tanic HOW many Academy awards did that sonvabitch win? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godthedog Report post Posted October 31, 2002 ah, i see it's that time of the month for the overrated movies thread, & i once again get to spew out my rhetorical bile and make my hatred known for... 'apocalypse now'--overblown, pretentious, melodramatic piece of SHIT. in the words of kim novak, "i could swallow a can of kodak and throw up a better film." now maybe coppola was trying to create some revolutionary kind of cinema and break all the rules about needing to have things like well-developed characters and subtlety; maybe he was trying to break away from the idea that directors with reputations for great movies should keep making great movies, i don't know. you guys who talk about spielberg being melodramatic and manipulative, open your eyes and notice how manipulative THIS thing is. it's like every part of every scene is screaming out to you, "war is hell! war is hell! hey, did you know that war is hell? well, it is! not to mention, it's also hell! and it's hell too!" aside from capra, i don't think anyone has ever made a movie less subtle than this one. example: the scene on the boat where one guy shoots the vc guy cause he thinks he's going for a gun. and what ends up being in there? a fucking PUPPY. this raises several questions: a) why would a guerrilla soldier keep a fucking PUPPY around him when he knows he's going to get shot at? b) where did he get this puppy? did he find it in the jungle & decide to take it home with him? is it his family's puppy, and he just wants to keep something with him to remind him of home? is it his superior's puppy, and this was some kind of test to go through a mission & keep the puppy alive? c) was it possible for coppola to think of something less subtle and more manipulative than a puppy? the only thing i can think of right now is two puppies. and that narration makes me want to blow my brains out. not only is it horribly written, but almost none of it is necessary to the film at all. take near the end, when martin sheen is going to kill kurtz: "they were gonna give me a medal for this. and i wasn't even in their fuckin' army anymore." it sounds like a 14-year-old victim of teen angst wrote this. and it adds nothing to the movie. i'll probably get flamed for saying something so inflammatory about such a beloved movie, but hey, that's what overrated threads are for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted October 31, 2002 Now i personally don't agree with you on this at all godthedog, but at least you gave actual reasons for your most overrated movie unlike most other people. That's why i don't reply to this type of thread. I couldn't give any good reasons for my picks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kotzenjunge Report post Posted October 31, 2002 I agree that Apocalypse Now was just like Heart of Darkness; had a good message, but melodrama and overdone description do each one in, respectively. You still gotta love the Die Valkure scene and the surfing. The much better Vietnam movie, in my mind anyway, is Full Metal Jacket. Anyways, onto overrated stuff. Shakespeare in Love did nothing for me. Depending on who you talk to, Kevin Smith films are as well. Titanic was NOT the Best Picture of 1998 or whenever it was. It was made such to avoid a rebellion across the nation of middle-aged women in love with DiCaprio. Fight Club is overrated to me. I can see why people would think it's so great, but maybe I read to much Vonnegut work, because the movie totally progresses as a Vonnegut book would read. I'm just desensitized I suppose. Either way, not as good as people crack it up to be. Fo sheez, Kotzenjunge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted October 31, 2002 The Sixth Sense. I hated that piece of shit. I called the ending early on in the film, and the rest of it didn't interest me at all, since I knew I was right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted October 31, 2002 Now, I have haven't seen Apocalypse Now for awhile, but didn't he get the puppy after they slaughtered some family, and he felt guilty about it so he took their puppy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted October 31, 2002 Most overrated: Any Kevin Smith film Fight Club Big Lebowski (One of the few movies I have ever turned off part way through) Braveheart (It was decent, but it drags early and the history is horrendous) Terminator 2 (Good movie, but everyone says it is better than the first when it clearly is not) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted October 31, 2002 Big Lebowski? Seriously? That movie has some of the funniest dialogue I've ever heard. Great quotes, a funny story, great characters. Totally deserves all the praise it gets, IMO. Thing with the history in Braveheart is that hardly any documented facts about William Wallace exist. There's the victory at Stirling, the Defeat at Falkirk, and his excecution. Everything else is pretty much left to artistic liscense. There was an epic poem about him I believe, but that's it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest saturnmark4life Report post Posted October 31, 2002 I still haven't fucking seen Big Lebowski, i'll make it a priority. anyway, Titanic has to top the list. other than that, FUCKING SPIDERMAN WAS CRRRRAP. That bit with the 'ayyyy yous messes wit one New Yawker yous messes wit oil of us' bit nearly made me leave the cinema. Vomitous. Goldmember was shit too, can't understand how it could ever be considered better than the first two though i liked the second one more than most). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted October 31, 2002 Episode 1 and 2 are just spotfest special effect crap with some political religious BS in it. It made alot of money but leaves an empty feeling afterwards just like Jurassic Park sequels. It's suppose to leave empty feelings... because there are sequels that come AFTER the prequels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Spaceman Spiff Report post Posted October 31, 2002 Episode 1 and 2 are just spotfest special effect crap with some political religious BS in it. It made alot of money but leaves an empty feeling afterwards just like Jurassic Park sequels. It's suppose to leave empty feelings... because there are sequels that come AFTER the prequels. I think we can agree, though, that the movies (Ep. 1 & 2) could/should have been a lot better than they turned out. Ep. 3 better have an awesome payoff. I'm hoping for a *really* dark movie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted October 31, 2002 Empire's still the best of the series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MD2020 Report post Posted October 31, 2002 c) was it possible for coppola to think of something less subtle and more manipulative than a puppy? the only thing i can think of right now is two puppies. The only thing I can think of is a newborn kitten about to open its eyes for the first time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smark Hammill Report post Posted October 31, 2002 Jaws Apocolyspe Now A Clockwork Orange Se7en Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Incandenza Report post Posted October 31, 2002 Saving Private Ryan Schindler's List Titanic Forrest Gump Braveheart Blood Simple Amelie Those immediately come to mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smark Hammill Report post Posted October 31, 2002 Jaws Apocolyspe Now A Clockwork Orange Se7en Let me add a couple to my list: The Godfather Part II Scarface (this isn't that good of a movie. JMO.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Incandenza Report post Posted October 31, 2002 Oh, yeah, Seven was BOR-ING, as was Scarface. I can't agree about Godfather Part II and Orange, however. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooseCannon Report post Posted October 31, 2002 American Beauty is the most overrated movie I can think of at the moment. Just a bunch of cliches masquerading as something "arty." What the fuck is with that little bastard with the camera anyway? And that shit with the paper bag being blown by the wind, wasn't ripped right out of Forrest Gump? It's all so bleh. The homophobic ex-marine, who's really gay. The girl who wants sex to feel good about herself. Wake me when something interesting happens in this movie. The Kevin Spacey character is the only one in the whole fucking movie with any charisma. At the end of the day, it's just another empty movie made so that people with fatuous tastes can feel hip. At least everyone knows that Titanic is a piece of shit, whether they like the movie or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cabbageboy Report post Posted October 31, 2002 I will say Citizen Kane is overrated even though I like most Welles stuff. Whenever you start throwing out stuff like "best movie ever" a movie cannot help but disappoint. 1. I still say that no one heard Kane say Rosebud, he dropped the snowy glass and then whipered "Rosebud." Nurse comes in AFTER that. I could be wrong but it's a gaping hole I think. 2. Kane isn't an interesting character. He is a lot of good quotes masquerading as a compelling character. Throughout the film the audience never really knows Kane, which I guess is the point, but I still don't care for it. 3. The ending is supposed to stun the viewer but falls flat. Rosebud (the sled) burning is supposed to make the viewer realize Kane felt his life was wasted and that he yearned for his childhood playing in the snow with his sled. This might work had we seen Kane's original home and parents with any sympathy, but the place seemed harsh, freezing, and his parents unlikable for the most part. I mean is being a poor miserable kid better than being a rich miserable old bastard? By calling Kane the best movie ever, I think most critics mean technically speaking. It was revolutionary in that aspect. That said, a movie has to do something for me emotionally in some way to be considered in the running for greatest movie ever, and Kane doesn't do anything for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
