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So if Brock's a face

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Guest Dmann2000

Okay if they want to push Brock as a face I see a month of Brock defending his title post SurSer, with Heyman continually poking his nose in. Brock gets fed up and screams right in Heyman's face: I DON'T NEED YOUR DAMN HELP! And boots Heyman. The a few weeks later who should show up but Heyman, saying he has an EXTREME surprise for Brock and then....

 

RHYNO! GORE! GORE! GORE!

 

Yes I know Rhyno is like 5'10 but he's built big and as long as they play up the "man-beast" aspect of him it would make for a decent fued I think, and keep your precious Guererro's and Benoit's from jobbing to him.

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Guest Dmann2000

I see developing a Rocky 3 type storyline with Brock, with Paul Heyman playing Micky feeding Brock 'soft' challengers

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Guest Redhawk

Not that I wouldn't want to see Rhyno in the main event, but I think WWE will bring Rhyno back as a babyface, since he was building babyface momentum before the injury. He was the only Alliance guy besides RVD and Stone Cold getting cheers.

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Guest DJ Jeff

Meh, I don't think a Lesnar vs. Rhyno match would be overly exciting. Though, I'd rather that over Lesnar vs. the Big Show. Plus, I think Rhyno's returning to RAW.

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Guest deadbeater

All Brock has to do is say "Shut up Paul!!" more often, and his face pop will be sustained.

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Guest CanadianChick
Brock's not turning face. It's just a teaser. They're saving it for later.

How do you figure? I mean is big Show going to play the face?

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Guest Brian

No, he's playing tweener for this feud. They're not going to fully turn him for a while, even though they've accelerated Heyman's plan.

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Guest Anglesault
Brock's not turning face. It's just a teaser. They're saving it for later.

Oh, I'm on the edge of my seat in anticipation.

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Guest Breetai
Brock's not turning face. It's just a teaser. They're saving it for later.

Oh, I'm on the edge of my seat in anticipation.

Shut up you bitter smark fuck.

 

Or better yet: say EXACTLY what it would take for you to be happy and not bitch about each and every possible aspect of the WWE today.

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Guest AndrewTS

You know, AS, if you're just going to respond with snide remarks, don't bother, since you're adding jackshit to the discussion. You hate Brock--WE GET THE FUCKING POINT!!

 

Anyway, I don't see how you can call Brock a "tweener." Taker and him reconciled, he's not relying on Paul, and Paul's not even acting as heelish as before. Brock admitted that he and Paul had to do what they did to beat him, and did so in an apologetic manner.

 

Brock's a face, with a heel manager. Simple as that. Show is solidly the heel. I don't think this means they'll split soon or Heyman will side with Show, though.

 

I don't think he needs to ditch Heyman anytime soon, since Brock cannot cut a promo for shit. He needs Heyman, even if Heyman may dampen possible face pops.

 

And Rhyno is going to be on Raw anyway, I think.

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Guest Anglesault

Please. I've said it time and time again. Kurt Angle, Chris Benoit, Wprld title feud. Angle/Benoit or Angle/RVD headlining Wrestlemania. (Angle and RVD were the the most over heel and face in the company before this September when RVD's push got destroyed and a teased face tuen gave Angle mixed reactions.

 

Push the people who have earned spots. Reward them. Eddy Guererro should be challenging Angle or Benoit for the title. Brock and Big Show should be opening the show in table matches or something.

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Guest AndrewTS

Agreed, but it has nothing to do with the topic. I doubt that Benoit has the charisma to pull off a main event feud, personally, regardless of how good he wrestles.

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Agreed, but it has nothing to do with the topic.  I doubt that Benoit has the charisma to pull off a main event feud, personally, regardless of how good he wrestles.

And I suppose Hamster Boy does a fine job.

 

This feud should be great.

 

Show: I'm (pant) gonna (puff) get you! (hack)

Brock: Oh yeah? (cough) Well, (Wheese) Bring it! (coughing fit)

 

SMELL THE DRAMA

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Agreed, but it has nothing to do with the topic.  I doubt that Benoit has the charisma to pull off a main event feud, personally, regardless of how good he wrestles.

And I suppose Hamster Boy does a fine job.

No, not in the least--that's what Heyman's for. If Benoit had him or some one like him to do his talking, he'd have a hell of a lot easier time.

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Guest Anglesault

Anyway, Back on topic, Brock has to stay heel, because there is no one for him to face as a babyface.

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Anyway, Back on topic, Brock has to stay heel, because there is no one for him to face as a babyface.

Good point, but since he's hardly a true heel, make him demolish some of the small faces, or something to establish his heelness after the Show feud, to he'd be a strong heel champion for the faces to chase. The top heel besides show is...what, Matt Hardy?! I like him, but he doesn't have any place in a main event now or anytime very soon.

 

First face challenger after Show would likely be--sorry, AS--Edge. Angle and Benoit are kinda occupied now, and Angle's program with Brock is likely going to be saved.

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Guest Anglesault

Just end this God forsaken title run. Hell have him lose it to Edge. Edge owes Angle, what 73 jobs? ^_^

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Just end this God forsaken title run. Hell have him lose it to Edge. Edge owes Angle, what 73 jobs? ^_^

That, I would wholeheartedly agree on. Yet the Brock Experiment is about the only thing WWE has stuck to their guns with in a long, long time. However, the plan was to keep him as champ until around WM, but it wouldn't kill them to have a titlerunius interruptus. Maybe Edge wins it, and Brock practically murders him brutally in the ring in the rematch. THEN on the way to WM?

 

Angle gets some of those wins back on the build up to the WM feud, and Edge can feud with some one else.

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Guest Nater

I'm at a serious loss for words..

 

Rhyno would be an interesting feud for brock. (going back to the subject)

 

Having an interesting feud makes for an interesting title run. Kane vs HHH is not interesting, thus Raw's title is junk. Brock vs Opponent of the Month was interesting for .. about 2 months, until a pattern developed.

 

What would you say Brock fits into, as far as match performing goes?

 

Is he a performer that relies on others to build chemistry?

Is he a performer that builds chemistry in any match?

Is he a performer that works off his partner to raise both?

 

(if your gonna put in a wiseass response, be ready to explain how your idea goes into the whole "Brock as a wrestler/performer")

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Guest cynicalprofit
Anyway, Back on topic, Brock has to stay heel, because there is no one for him to face as a babyface.

His name is HHH, and he will once again come out as a heel champion at Wrestlemaina, *sigh* a sad but probably reality.

 

I'm all for the Rhyno feud, but with Rhyno just comming back, Brocks not the guy to handle him, and Rhynos an intense guy in the ring, and we saw what happens when Brock and you dont agree in the Holly match, doing that stuff to Rhyno could break his neck really bad.

 

Right now Im so confused as to what Brock is, I dont even care anymore. As long as theres a 4*+ match on PPV, I can say it was worth the 20 or so I spend at Hooters. The MSG crowd is gonna make Brock face because they hate Show.

 

Still *crosses fingers* Brock heel vs face Angle at WM, for the title, after its been unified, and the match will be so impressive that it ushers in a new style for the WWF, one based more on wrestling then crap like guys acting like they're fucking corpses.

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Guest creativename

I gotta think that this is a full-fledged face turn for Lesnar.

 

Remember that Show said he was "advised" against facing Lesnar after his promo, and then Tazz commented on this.

 

It appears to me that Heyman is managing Show behind Lesnar's back, and you can't have Heyman turn on Lesnar and have Lesnar remain a tweener.

 

I think this is a dumb way to go though. Heyman managing Show is a waste.

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Guest Anglesault
I'm at a serious loss for words..

 

Rhyno would be an interesting feud for brock. (going back to the subject)

I've yet to see an interesting Brock feud. SOMEONE isn't carrying their weight in that department.

 

What would you say Brock fits into, as far as match performing goes?

 

Is he a performer that relies on others to build chemistry?

Is he a performer that builds chemistry in any match?

Is he a performer that works off his partner to raise both?

 

He's the guy that lays down in a bearhug and ruins the match

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Guest Anglesault
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I'm all for the Rhyno feud, but with Rhyno just comming back, Brocks not the guy to handle him, and Rhynos an intense guy in the ring, and we saw what happens when Brock and you dont agree in the Holly match, doing that stuff to Rhyno could break his neck really bad.

On top of that, Rhyno deserves better than to be a job boy.

 

Right now Im so confused as to what Brock is, I dont even care anymore. As long as theres a 4*+ match on PPV,

 

Good, so we're on the same page. End the Brock Experiment and push Angle/Benoit.

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Guest Imarkout4chrisdaniels

I really like that idea of Heyman signing Show when he came to Smackdown, but Show wants to face Lesnar for the title. Heyman keeps being Show's manager a secret, while trying to get both of them not to wrestle each other. I would like to see Heyman manage more wrestlers, and have Brock leave him.

 

Wasting time on Big Show makes it less appealing, though.

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Guest Anglesault
I really like that idea of Heyman signing Show when he came to Smackdown, but Show wants to face Lesnar for the title. Heyman keeps being Show's manager a secret, while trying to get both of them not to wrestle each other. I would like to see Heyman manage more wrestlers, and have Brock leave him.

That's what they're doing?

 

I'm not missing anything.

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Guest FeArHaVoC

No, you're not missing anything. I mean, who the Hell wants to see Benoit, Eddie, Angle, Edge, Chavo & Rey have great matches week in, week out?

 

Hell, even Brock/Rey was good this week. Until Big Show came out.

 

That Matt Hardy guy is pretty entertaining also.

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Guest Imarkout4chrisdaniels

It's not necessarily what they are doing, I was just expounding on an idea of another post in the thread. It is very logical that this could be happening due to the commentary and situations. I think it could be a good storyline, especially since Heyman writes that show.

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