So if Brock's a face

[Guest Anglesault]

When.

[Guest FeArHaVoC]

Well, we can get into the discussion why Triple H & Taker are built up as strong as they are. And, why that isn't good for business, because the opponents never look like they have a chance in Hell to win.

Brock looks like he can. In fact, he did.

 

So you have a problem with Lesnar as Champion, even though you just admitted he looks impressive and Credible to be in that position?

[Guest Anglesault]

I have a problem with giving him the belt and the superpush long before he deserved it. He still doesn't. Give anyone this push and a mauling of the Undertaker, and they'll look credible.

[Guest FeArHaVoC]

Who gives a flying rats ass if he didn't deserve it? Get over it! It's done, and since then, he's earned it, and even YOU said Lesnar looks credible as Champion now.

[Guest Brian]

But Brock also bumps and sells enough for his opponents to make them look fine too.

[Guest Anglesault]

Who gives a flying rats ass if he didn't deserve it? Get over it! It's done, and since then, he's earned it, and even YOU said Lesnar looks credible as Champion now.

He has NOT earned it. First of all, you don't earn the belt in the middle of the reign. Secondly, he has done nothing to even think he has earned it.

 

He looks credible because no one on Smackdown looks like they can beat him.

[Guest Brian]

Mysterio looked like he was going to beat him last night.

[Guest Anglesault]

And Spike Dudley looke like he coule beat Austin last year. If Rey can't beat Angle, and Angle can't beat anyone, how can Rey beat Brock?

[Guest Brian]

Rey was about to hit the 6-1-9 on Brock before Big Show grabbed him. The fans buy that.

[Guest FeArHaVoC]

First of all, you don't earn the belt in the middle of the reign. Secondly, he has done nothing to even think he has earned it.

Says who? Why can't you earn it during your run with the Belt? People said Bret Hart & Shawn Michaels were too small to be Champions and would flop. Look at them now. Their Legends. People Second guessed them.

 

Plus, now you're just talking in circles. You said Brock looks like he is a Credible Champion. He may not of "Earned" the right to get the Super Push, but he has done his job and has earned the right to hold the Belt.

[Guest Anglesault]

And then Rey got man handled. No one is allowed to look good for a significant period of time, except Brock, because he's the one they want to push. I refuse to believe that they are setting up Angle/brock at Mania, because losing to everyone under the sun is not the way to build up the challenger against a dominant champion.

[Guest Anglesault]

First of all, you don't earn the belt in the middle of the reign. Secondly, he has done nothing to even think he has earned it.

Says who? Why can't you earn it during your run with the Belt?

Because there were six people who earned the belt before him. It's a slap in the face to ignore their work and give the belt to a guy and hope he stops sucking sometime through the reign. I think your work can earn you a longer reign, but not the reign itself.

[Guest Brian]

I've gotta remember that you didn't actually see the show and are making a blind argument, because first Rey looked great against Brock and like he was at his level unti lhe was sacrificed to Show because he was the challenger, and second Angle and Benoit's week to week standing is the win-loss column are generally forgotten by most feuds because if they're paying attention to either guy at all, than their paying attention to the course their feud is taking. Nobody takes weekly bookings and losses seriously unless each one makes the guy look like a jobber. And neither has been booked that way.

[Guest FeArHaVoC]

Angle has not been jobbing to everyone. You're just being over dramatic. Even when he does lose, he keeps his Heat and comes out keeping his credibility.

 

<I think your work can earn you a longer reign, but not the reign itself.>

 

Fine, he didn't "Earn" his Reign, but he's been "earning" the right to hold the Belt longer. With all the Crap they been throwing at him, it's a Miracle he still looks as Strong as he does as Champ.

[Guest fingers]

Once again, judging something you didn't Watch.

 

That Brawl was Damn Good.

that brawl was onof the best bits, if not the best bit, of last nights smackdown.

[Guest fingers]

Nobody takes weekly bookings and losses seriously unless each one makes the guy look like a jobber. And neither has been booked that way.

exactly, actually both were in control of the match until run ins this week.

[Guest Anglesault]

Angle has not been jobbing to everyone. You're just being over dramatic.

He went the whole summer with something like 3 wins. Just saying. Part of this whole feud is that they are trying to one up each other. And yet, they still lose most of their matches. Now, if I was booking it, I would have them play a REAL game of one upsmanship, where they each try to do a better job of dismantling opponents than the other guy.

[Guest Brian]

But, why would they let each other do that? And why wouldn't they come out to watch each other and distract one and the other? They're still both heels at this point.

[Guest FeArHaVoC]

I Give up!

 

[Guest Anglesault]

But, why would they let each other do that? And why wouldn't they come out to watch each other and distract one and the other? They're still both heels at this point.

Yeah, I know. And it's not like the 3 million losses are mentioned anyway, I guess. It's just agrivating to turn on the show hoping to see one thing and seeing the exact opposite. I mean, what was so horrible about the way they booked the show before No Mercy?

[Guest Smark Hammill]

They were playing tug of war like children.

 

Let's move on, shall we?

 

Feuding over stinkfaces

 

Damn, what wrestling that is! Rikishi's ass, their faces, what a match! Oh, wait, it's NOT WRESTLING

 

Don't try to call it entertaining.

I really hope you discover the opposite sex in your lifetime.

[Guest Pop Culture God]

First of all, you don't earn the belt in the middle of the reign. Secondly, he has done nothing to even think he has earned it.

Says who? Why can't you earn it during your run with the Belt?

Because there were six people who earned the belt before him. It's a slap in the face to ignore their work and give the belt to a guy and hope he stops sucking sometime through the reign. I think your work can earn you a longer reign, but not the reign itself.

That's like saying that when Vader got the WCW Title in 91 that it was a slap in the face of Ric Flair. You're full of shit AS. Brock is a credible main event heel who draws FACE POPS because fans buy him as a badass. (I've been to SD! shows a couple times, and he got face pops EVERY TIME.) Admit it, you are wrong, Brock is over, he has sucessfully joined Rock, Hogan, HHH, and UT as the only true headliners the company has. He is learninbg and growing as a wrestler, and his upcoming fallout with Heyman will be great TV.

 

Give it a rest.

[Guest Pop Culture God]

But, why would they let each other do that? And why wouldn't they come out to watch each other and distract one and the other? They're still both heels at this point.

Yeah, I know. And it's not like the 3 million losses are mentioned anyway, I guess. It's just agrivating to turn on the show hoping to see one thing and seeing the exact opposite. I mean, what was so horrible about the way they booked the show before No Mercy?

Angle got a Lesnar-sized push when he started. Lesnar's was faster because they don't have as many options as before. Angle is booked strong consistantly AS. The fans are starting to respond as he's now playing face during his matches.

[Guest Nater]

Brock Thread ruined by Anglesault #208

 

Anyhow, after the flavor of the month (Big Show), they might use BPP to do an extended feud that actually lasts longer than the next PPV.

 

Thats the only thing Brock's run needs is a contender that harasses the Champ but doesnt get the first PPV match. They could sauce it by having the antagonist nearly cost him the belt at the first ppv, then do the match at the next where he probably will lose it. *Isnt this how Nash beat Goldberg?

[Guest Anglesault]

Admit it, you are wrong, Brock is over, he has sucessfully joined Rock, Hogan, HHH, and UT as the only true headliners the company has.

Nothing to do with them being the only ones getting God pushes.

 

 

and his upcoming fallout with Heyman will be great TV.

 

Yes.

 

Brock: Paul (pant) Shut (cough) up! (collapse).

 

I'm setting my VCR.

 

Angle got a Lesnar-sized push when he started.

 

No he didn't.

 

Angle is booked strong consistantly AS

COUGHwigCOUGH.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Angle is booked strong consistantly AS

COUGHwigCOUGH.

Personally, I felt that, even though he had the wig, he was still an over competitor.

 

Of course...why anyone bothers arguing with you I don't know, because you can't see beyond your 2-Dimensional world.

[Guest Anglesault]

Angle is booked strong consistantly AS

COUGHwigCOUGH.

Personally, I felt that, even though he had the wig, he was still an over competitor.

 

Of course...why anyone bothers arguing with you I don't know, because you can't see beyond your 2-Dimensional world.

He was over. That's not booked strong. The wig served only one purpose. To try and ruin Angle. And don't deny it. I can't think of one other reason for it to be there.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Angle is booked strong consistantly AS

COUGHwigCOUGH.

Personally, I felt that, even though he had the wig, he was still an over competitor.

 

Of course...why anyone bothers arguing with you I don't know, because you can't see beyond your 2-Dimensional world.

He was over. That's not booked strong. The wig served only one purpose. To try and ruin Angle. And don't deny it. I can't think of one other reason for it to be there.

I can deny it, because I see it serving another purpose...

 

To further make people hate Angle, as he didn't give the people what they wanted to see: A Bald Angle.

 

Thus possibly furthering making him a jack-ass heel.

[Guest Anglesault]

Angle is booked strong consistantly AS

COUGHwigCOUGH.

Personally, I felt that, even though he had the wig, he was still an over competitor.

 

Of course...why anyone bothers arguing with you I don't know, because you can't see beyond your 2-Dimensional world.

He was over. That's not booked strong. The wig served only one purpose. To try and ruin Angle. And don't deny it. I can't think of one other reason for it to be there.

I can deny it, because I see it serving another purpose...

 

To further make people hate Angle, as he didn't give the people what they wanted to see: A Bald Angle.

 

Thus possibly furthering making him a jack-ass heel.

I can just see the booking meeting now.

 

Random Booker: Angle is the most over heel in the company, but we have strict orders to never push him. Still, they want him to become even MORE over. I have two plans. One; We can have him be a madman breaking ankles or kicking ass. OR, we can have him wear a wig and make him the but of every joke. The decision should be easy.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

And again Anglesault doesn't see the other path...because he's so blinded by what HE thinks will work.

 

Personally, I don't want everybody being bad ass beating everyone up. I mean, it works for a little bit, but doesn't build character for a worker.

 

The wig trick shows building character for Angle (being a cocky jack-ass who tricks people). And during that, he would snap as well.

 

<sarcasm>But then again, we can't have different directions than what Anglesault wants, oh no! Even if a lot of other people think it's entertaing</sarcasm>