Guest raptor Report post Posted November 1, 2002 From Zentertainment: "Buffy" scribe Doug Petrie has just spoken with Dreamwatch magazine about his plans for his version of the film script and how the origin of the heroes and villain will differ from that of the comic mythology: "The change to the origin story, which came from the earlier drafts and I adopted, is that Doom was like the fifth Beatle. He was on the spaceship with them, and in my version he saw this particle wave coming - they didn’t want to say cosmic rays because they felt it sounded fake, but in fact cosmic rays are real. I wanted to do A Perfect Storm in space, where a giant wave is coming towards them, and Victor blasts off in the escape pod, saving his own skin. He crashlands to Earth and becomes Doom because his face is lost in the reentry process, which is horrible and violent, while the four of them get bombaded by these mysterious rays and become the Fantastic Four". These origin scenes will be part of flashbacks though, as the opening is "a giant action sequence where everyone in New York City is watching The Fantastic Four kick the crap out of a giant monster on Fifth Avenue". What do you guys think? My first thought was: Craptastic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest gthureson Report post Posted November 2, 2002 The original origon shows so much more of Doom's personality. He wasn't horribly scarred, or even truly disfigured. His face merely wasn't perfect anymore, and impefection in himself is something Doom cannot handle. This Doom seems to be a coward, whereas Doctor Doom only has one flaw, and that is his ego. Ah well, whatever. They'll do what they want in the end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest starvenger Report post Posted November 2, 2002 Well, I've got no problem with Doom being part of the team, but to use the Beatle analogy, he should be Pete Best and get kicked out of it before they launch into space. The scarring and disfigurement HAS to happen though, and it really doesn't matter how, save for the fact that Richards gets blamed somehow. Anyways from the description the major enemies are Doom and Mole Man... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sassquatch Report post Posted November 3, 2002 What a crock of shit. Doom's ego has been the driving force behind his contempt towards the Fantastic Four and the world in general. When his experiment blew up and it got him kicked out of his college, he could not come to terms that it was *his* mistake and he took out his frustrations on his contemporary and better, Reed Richards. We later found out that Doom was not as badly scarred as we were led to believe and it was possible to fix his face. But Doom was so vain and full of anger that he rejected the idea that his face could be saved and he put on the boiling hot Doom mask that he had crafted in order to hide his minimally scarred face from humanity. Doom burned his face beyond recognition and that only fueled the fire he had inside of him about how he lost everything thanks to Richards and how he would get his revenge on Richards and the world for doubting his genius along with turning their back on him. His ego and vanity are what fuels the fire in Doom and this script does not encompass either of these elements. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest raptor Report post Posted November 3, 2002 His ego and vanity are what fuels the fire in Doom and this script does not encompass either of these elements. How do you know it doesn't encompass these elements? Have you read it? The new origin may make each of these "fuels" a harder sell, but that doesn't mean they won't be adressed. Perhaps the explosion in Petrie's script is Doom's fault? Perhaps vanity will be exchanged for pride, and in that sense, may lead to an equally fascinating character. And that's coming from a huge Doom mark, and one who doesn't necessarily like a new origin. We should at least give it a chance, then after we see that it's crappy (if this is the case) we can be valid in our reaming of Doug Petrie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sassquatch Report post Posted November 5, 2002 "How do you know it doesn't encompass these elements? Have you read it?" - raptor I just read what Petrie fucking said about how he was going to do Dr.Doom's origin, which you posted above. Nowhere in Petrie's version of Doom's origin did he show Doom to display any of the character traits that made Doom become the super villain that we all know and love today. "And that's coming from a huge Doom mark, and one who doesn't necessarily like a new origin." - raptor You could have fooled me with your wishy washy stance on the script in regards to *your* favorite comic book character's origin. "We should at least give it a chance, then after we see that it's crappy (if this is the case) we can be valid in our reaming of Doug Petrie." - raptor "We" includes you as well, correct? "What do you guys think? My first thought was: Craptastic." - raptor in response to what he thought about Petrie's idea for Doom's origin. I felt that the script that Petrie has planned for Doom is terrible which mirrored your own one line thought about the idea. I expanded on why I felt the way I did about Doom's script origin to which you jumped on me and are telling me and everyone else to give the script a chance after having already told everyone it looked like crap. Stick to a goddamn side and stay on it instead of trying to troll me for responses you fair-weather moron. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites