Guest Pop Culture God Posted November 1, 2002 Report Posted November 1, 2002 In WCW during 91, an up and coming heel (Vader) DESTROYED the company's top face (Sting). That's pretty much the story of Brock/Rock without the top face going to Hollywood. In WCW during 91, a notorious booker(Dusty) was pushing horrible angles down the throats of the fans. Gerschwitz. In WCW during 91, the company lost it's greatest worker.(Flair) Paging Mr. Austin... In WCW during 91, the people in charge went nuts as they signed anyone they thought could give them a "quick fix" I bet Eric, Scott, Ric, Kevin, Hall, and Terry arn't too broken up about this one. In WCW during 91, a cowardly heel began the year as champion. (Lex Luger) Jericho was champ till March. SPOOKY, ain't it?
Guest Blue Bacchus Posted November 1, 2002 Report Posted November 1, 2002 I'm not up on my Dub Cee Dub history, but did it ever get better for them in '91?
ChrisMWaters Posted November 1, 2002 Report Posted November 1, 2002 I'm not up on my Dub Cee Dub history, but did it ever get better for them in '91? Not sure if it did in 91...but it eventually did. One thing that happened was that FLair returned.
Guest Tony149 Posted November 1, 2002 Report Posted November 1, 2002 Vader didn't destroy Sting until 1992. I thought 1992 was a good year for WCW with the Dangerous Alliance angle. By the summer of '92, WCW started getting slow, and by the end of the year the company was going down again. 1991 was pretty much a bad year for WCW after Flair left. Rhodes/Steamboat vs. the Enforcers from the Clash & the Rude/Sting angle was probably the only good thing happening there.
Guest Brian Posted November 1, 2002 Report Posted November 1, 2002 In 1993 when Flair returned they had a really good roster.
ChrisMWaters Posted November 1, 2002 Report Posted November 1, 2002 History of WCW For those of you who want to learn of it more.
Guest Jobber of the Week Posted November 1, 2002 Report Posted November 1, 2002 Are you guys kidding? WWF 02 = WCW 99. And that's sad.
Guest Ravenbomb Posted November 1, 2002 Report Posted November 1, 2002 and another thing...1989 was a great year for WCW...two years later it sucks. 2000 was a pretty good year for WWF, two years later, it sucks
Guest Kotzenjunge Posted November 1, 2002 Report Posted November 1, 2002 Gerwitz just writes some storylines, he doesn't hold the book. He isn't to blame for who wins and loses. Fo sheez, Kotzenjunge
Guest Pop Culture God Posted November 1, 2002 Report Posted November 1, 2002 Gerwitz just writes some storylines, he doesn't hold the book. He isn't to blame for who wins and loses. Fo sheez, Kotzenjunge In 91, the problem wasn't about who won or lost, the storylines were all god-awful.
Guest razazteca Posted November 1, 2002 Report Posted November 1, 2002 was 1991 the year that RoboCop saved Sting in the cage match? And Dusty Rhodes as that masked cowboy that had the fire side promos? Brad Armstrong as champ? flashbacks
Guest Banky Posted November 2, 2002 Report Posted November 2, 2002 Whatever, this yea we have been treated to wonderful matches but Guerrero, Benoit, Angle, Edge, and Mysterio. The storylines have been lacking, but every Thursday I am seeing better TV matches than I have any year in WWF history.
Guest Pop Culture God Posted November 2, 2002 Report Posted November 2, 2002 Whatever, this yea we have been treated to wonderful matches but Guerrero, Benoit, Angle, Edge, and Mysterio. The storylines have been lacking, but every Thursday I am seeing better TV matches than I have any year in WWF history. So, we had great matches in 91. It still sucked overall though.
Guest Paranoid Posted November 2, 2002 Report Posted November 2, 2002 I really don't think that you can put the blame on one person. The entire creative team and the higher ups who direct them are the ones to blame.
Guest Banky Posted November 2, 2002 Report Posted November 2, 2002 Whatever, this yea we have been treated to wonderful matches but Guerrero, Benoit, Angle, Edge, and Mysterio. The storylines have been lacking, but every Thursday I am seeing better TV matches than I have any year in WWF history. So, we had great matches in 91. It still sucked overall though. Great matches were being had every single week back in 91? Every week you were gaurenteed atleast two matches would be of high quality? I highly doubt that.
Guest Brian Posted November 2, 2002 Report Posted November 2, 2002 I thought we were just comparing the RAW side to 1991, because that where's all the comparisons seem to draw from. SmackDown's drawn out a great wrestling product with mostly dedent to good storylines, good undercard development, and they've actually made something of Brock.
Guest Pop Culture God Posted November 2, 2002 Report Posted November 2, 2002 Whatever, this yea we have been treated to wonderful matches but Guerrero, Benoit, Angle, Edge, and Mysterio. The storylines have been lacking, but every Thursday I am seeing better TV matches than I have any year in WWF history. So, we had great matches in 91. It still sucked overall though. Great matches were being had every single week back in 91? Every week you were gaurenteed atleast two matches would be of high quality? I highly doubt that. Well, since 99% of TV at the time were jobber squashes and interviews/angles I can't reall compare. But, if you want to talk about awesome matches, The Steiners were gods, the Dangerous Alliance was guarteeing great matches from Austin, Steamboat, Eaton, The Steiners, Rude, AA, etc. Yeah it was better in WCW.
Guest Anglesault Posted November 2, 2002 Report Posted November 2, 2002 Anglesault's 4th Commandment: Thou shalt not compare Vader to Brock. Anyway, 2002 WWF is much closer to 1995 WWF. 1995: Vince loses control of the company. 2002: Duh. 1995: Diesel is champion, long reign, shitty matches. 2002: Two! Two! Two Gums in One! 1995: Midcard matches are better than main event 2002: Much better than the main event. 1995: best worker in company, Bret hart, wasted in pointless feuds (Pierre, Lawler) 2002: best workers in company wasted in stupid feuds. (Angle/Kane, Benoit/Guerrero-Dudleyz, Jericho/Cena)
Guest Pop Culture God Posted November 2, 2002 Report Posted November 2, 2002 Anglesault's 4th Commandment: Thou shalt not compare Vader to Brock. Anyway, 2002 WWF is much closer to 1995 WWF. 1995: Vince loses control of the company. 2002: Duh. 1995: Diesel is champion, long reign, shitty matches. 2002: Two! Two! Two Gums in One! 1995: Midcard matches are better than main event 2002: Much better than the main event. 1995: best worker in company, Bret hart, wasted in pointless feuds (Pierre, Lawler) 2002: best workers in company wasted in stupid feuds. (Angle/Kane, Benoit/Guerrero-Dudleyz, Jericho/Cena) Well, the Backlund feud wasn't pointless, and you could make a serious case that Michaels was a better wrestler overall (Michaels was a 4 star wrestler and a great promo guy, Bret was a four star wrestler and a mediocre interview.) than Bret was, but other than that you do have a point. Oh and Vince didn't lose control in 95, he was distrcted by the trials, in 2002 he's being manipulated by his family.
Guest BillyTheStud Posted November 2, 2002 Report Posted November 2, 2002 I liked Pierre the pirate in 1995, I wish they did more with him.
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