HHH's title.........

[Guest The Mighty Damaramu]

Ok everyone talks about how HHH's ego-fuck title means nothing. That it has absolutely no meaning. And I'm getting to the point where I think no title means anything anymore.

But is there a way to make HHH's title mean something? If somebody were to win it and treat it like the greatest thing that ever happened to them and defended it all the time giving firey interviews about how this means everything to them and they're going to do everything in their power to keep it........then would it mean something? Or is it a lost cause?

[Guest Ram]

It'll take a few years and dedicated reigns to do this.

 

That said, I doubt, in today's WWE world, that it ever will. I won't be surprised if it's gone in 2 months. :\

[Guest Kotzenjunge]

Believe it or not, I've already managed to insert it into the "Co-most important title" slot in my mind.

 

I've also learned to think of the split as they want us to.

 

Damn my tolerant self.

 

Fo sheez,

Kotzenjunge

[Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins]

It will mean something the day HHH tears his quad and they have RVD make it to the finals of a tournament for the title. Of course, RVD would job to Bubba Dudley in the finals.

[Guest AlwaysPissedOff]

The belt still won't mean anything whether RVD holds it or not. Hell, not even Rock could make the belt mean anything.

[Guest razazteca]

Scott Steiner needs to go Nancy Kerrigan on HHH

[Guest Flyboy]

The belt still won't mean anything whether RVD holds it or not.

I think if RVD held the title like he did with the ECW TV Title, then it might mean something.

 

Just me, though.

[Guest jester]

Right now, all WWE belts look worthless to me.

 

But that one especially.

[Guest Luke Michael]

It could be a great title if they put it on guys like RVD and Jericho. Raw needs to reinvent itself and have world champions that aren't like the world champions before. Triple H beating up a dummy as champion sucks. I'd love to see RVD as champion and put on great matches on every Raw. That would make the belt good!

[Guest Smell the ratings!!!]

I think it gets the second most important belt spot by default, seing as they aren't any other belts.

 

Anyway, I think it might get built up once it has a non HHH holder. But while HHH has it, fights for it, and especially when he wins it again (actually, I guess he'd be winning it for the first time), it will always be the HHH small penis championship.

[Guest Kotzenjunge]

To me, the Undisputed Title finally meant something around the time of the Triple Threat at Vengeance, when I finally thought of Undertaker as *the* champion. I've got the same vibe with Brock right now, I think of him as the man to beat, and after he destroys Show, he'll look uber-credible in my eyes. Funny how I've managed to maintain some markish tendencies from my youth.

 

But to stay on topic, I still hold by my assertion that the World (Raw) Title is just as credible as the WWE (Smackdown) Title.

 

Fo sheez,

Kotzenjunge

[ChrisMWaters 0]

I believe that the World Championship could be built up, but first you have to get it off of the waist of HHH.

 

RVD, Booker T, Jericho, and many others building it could be good for it.

 

Of course, I thought that the Hardcore Title could have became a respectable title, and it was until they introduced that idiotic 24/7 rule that ruined it.

[Guest Just call me Dan]

Getting it off the waist of HHH WILL mkae it mean something. If he holds onto this title for a few more months (much to our dismay) the person who is able to dethrone him finnaly (if it is someone who deserves it) can easily make it credible. As long as HHH doesn't win it right back and the winner is also a lengthy champion, for them to be able to lay claim to beating HHH in the middle of his big ego-fuck and keep the belt off of him, that makes it pretty credible in my eyes.

[Guest BA_Baracus]

Maybe eventually, but I doubt it will last long enough for us to find out.

 

It's basically just the IC title, but since HHH holds it it has to be a "word title".

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

In time it could.

 

It was handed out the same way the IC and real WWE title were anyway. No one ever "won" those the first time around.

 

The first step is to take it off of HHH. As it stands, no matter how much he wants to think a long title reign breeds credability, he's still the guy who never did shit to win it.

 

So step 1 is get it on someone else who can actually claim to have "won" the belt.

 

That already adds more meaning from where I sit.

 

Then it takes time and good booking.

 

So...I guess it can't ever mean anything as good booking is not an option.

[Guest SP-1]

Definitely put it on someone that WINS it in a match, CLEANLY.

 

In my opinion, it needs to be as close to a superface as possible, which means Jericho in all probability (with a well done face turn, of course). And give him a long, credible run where he defends it and wins it quite often. But not with a heel of the week, with good, long feuds that last a couple of months each and culminate in matches where both competitors actually display PASSION for the title in their performance.

 

That's the only way it's going to gain credibility in my opinion. Time. And wrestling. Not sports entertainment.

 

SP

[Guest jester]

It was handed out the same way the IC and real WWE title were anyway. No one ever "won" those the first time around.

The difference between those belts is that there was a kayfabe "tournament" in which the belts were "won." Yeah, it was BS, but it's still worlds better than clearly and publically handing over a belt to Cripple H.

 

I agree with the rest of your post though. They can bring credability to this belt. I don't like it, and I still think it's idiotic to have two "equal" belts, but there's little point in bitching about it now.

[Guest CanadianChris]

In my mind, HHH is the Intercontinental champion. What a step down for the guy.

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

It takes time for a title to gain credibility. The WWE Title has 30 years of history behind it, and has been held by legends. The World Title was handed to HHH a couple of months ago.

 

Even the WWF Title didn't mean much until Vince bought the company from Vince Sr., and completely split from the NWA for good. The first 'true' (as in the first one that held the title when it meant a great deal) champion was Hulk Hogan in 1984.

 

Given time, this title will increase in value, but most people don't expect Vince to have the patience and for the whole thing to be forgotten.

[Guest DJ Jeff]

The WWE went about this the wrong way. What they should have done, is had a tournament leading into Unforgiven, where the final two left, in this case probably HHH and RVD, would face each other at Unforgiven, with the winner becoming the World Champion. Even if HHH had won it, it would have had some meaning. Then, they totally runined the credibility of the title by having HHH, the World Champion, get involved in a necrophilla angle. Yeah, that's a great way to make the World Title look good. So, now, we're heading into the Survivor Series, where they have a chance to give the belt some meaning by placing it on someone who deserves it. I'm hoping Kane wins it, just because he's my fav. However, RVD, Booker T, or Jericho winning the title would help bring back it's credibility somewhat. Just so long HHH isn't the World Champion, that will help.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

It takes time for a title to gain credibility. The WWE Title has 30 years of history behind it, and has been held by legends. The World Title was handed to HHH a couple of months ago.

 

Even the WWF Title didn't mean much until Vince bought the company from Vince Sr., and completely split from the NWA for good. The first 'true' (as in the first one that held the title when it meant a great deal) champion was Hulk Hogan in 1984.

 

Given time, this title will increase in value, but most people don't expect Vince to have the patience and for the whole thing to be forgotten.

Um...I thought Vince took over and split the company from NWA around 1979...when Bob Backlund was the champion.

 

And even if that's not true, before Hogan was the Iron Sheik...so wouldn't he count somewhere in there?

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

It takes time for a title to gain credibility.  The WWE Title has 30 years of history behind it, and has been held by legends.  The World Title was handed to HHH a couple of months ago.

 

Even the WWF Title didn't mean much until Vince bought the company from Vince Sr., and completely split from the NWA for good.  The first 'true' (as in the first one that held the title when it meant a great deal) champion was Hulk Hogan in 1984.  

 

Given time, this title will increase in value, but most people don't expect Vince to have the patience and for the whole thing to be forgotten.

Um...I thought Vince took over and split the company from NWA around 1979...when Bob Backlund was the champion.

 

And even if that's not true, before Hogan was the Iron Sheik...so wouldn't he count somewhere in there?

You could argue Backlund, but the Iron Shiek was merely a patsy to pass the belt to Hogan. I barely recognize him as a former champ as it is. Hogan is the one who defined the championship.

[Guest Pop Culture God]

Just have him carry a replica of all the titles that have been unified into the WCW and IC titles (Something like 13 titles.) and respect for it will grow in my mind. You can start calling it the H Crown.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

You could argue Backlund, but the Iron Shiek was merely a patsy to pass the belt to Hogan.

Actually (I don't know if this is storyline or not, so correct me if I'm wrong)...Originally the match where Hogan won the World Title from the Iron Sheik was gonna be a rematch between Backlund and Iron Shiek...but Backlund was too injured to compete.

 

I'm not sure if that was real or storyline though.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Just have him carry a replica of all the titles that have been unified into the WCW and IC titles (Something like 13 titles.) and respect for it will grow in my mind. You can start calling it the H Crown.

HHH would never do that.

 

He'd tear his quad carrying the weight of all those titles at once.

 

...on second thought, maybe he SHOULD do that after all...

[Guest Pop Culture God]

Just have him carry a replica of all the titles that have been unified into the WCW and IC titles (Something like 13 titles.) and respect for it will grow in my mind. You can start calling it the H Crown.

HHH would never do that.

 

He'd tear his quad carrying the weight of all those titles at once.

 

...on second thought, maybe he SHOULD do that after all...

Have Sonny Oono wheelbarrow them all out. Then in one segment he shows them off one by one:

 

 

"And here's the AWA Title"

 

"And here's the WCW US Title"

 

"And here's the Western States Heritage Title"

 

 

 

That would rule.