Guest redbaron51 Report post Posted November 6, 2002 As for dance and metal never coming together... That is what Industrial basically is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Amazing Rando Report post Posted November 6, 2002 are you considering The Clay People to be a mix of dance and metal? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redbaron51 Report post Posted November 6, 2002 who? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted November 6, 2002 Kotzenjunge, so your the Establish Raver~ what do you suggest for recent Rave music? Which sub-genre of Techo do you prefer? Which DJ is the best at this moment? I prefer the 90s Happy Hardcore, Ambient Trance, and the heavy breakbeat with hip-hop bass, but I am bored with the Jungle music of this time period (90s) Any opinion on DJ Sammy remix of Heaven? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Amazing Rando Report post Posted November 6, 2002 Ambient Trance, Vocal Trance, & Acid are all great to me... listen to DJ Encore, DJ Infinity, Lagoona!, The Rave Method, and various others... I also bought "The Great Metal Discography" today.... BRING ON THE KNOWLEDGE~! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted November 6, 2002 Great Metal Discography? What in good god's urge is involved in that? I've got a funny feeling it sucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kotzenjunge Report post Posted November 6, 2002 Kotzenjunge, so your the Establish Raver~ what do you suggest for recent Rave music? Which sub-genre of Techo do you prefer? Which DJ is the best at this moment? I prefer the 90s Happy Hardcore, Ambient Trance, and the heavy breakbeat with hip-hop bass, but I am bored with the Jungle music of this time period (90s) Any opinion on DJ Sammy remix of Heaven? To me, Jungle is CRAP. Just random noise. I guess it's good if you're tripping on E or something, but it's impossible to tolerate sober. I personally like Trance and House, in that order. Hardcore is good in doses, but I can't listen to it for too long. Ambient stuff is good as transitional material, but little else for me. Breakbeat is some good stuff, and it may very well be my second favorite kind. DICHOTOMY~! is going to have a Drum and Bass (Jungle) hall and a Breakbeat hall. Guess which one I'll be spending most of my evening in. Commercially, Paul Oakenfold rules the world right now. While he deserves every bit of fame he gets and I love him to bits, I'm a DIGWEED~! man myself. The second half of the second disc of Bedrock is the best stretch of trance you'll ever hear, and "Heaven Scent" is the BEST TRANCE TRACK EVER. If you can't feel it, you aren't alive. The people Rando mentioned are all good, but I'd like to comment on Lagoona! since they're the only one of those that I've listened to and experimented with at length. Their work is very homogenous and interchangeable, and makes for good mixing material with other tracks, as most of their work is a little weak to stand on its own. DJ Sammy's remix of "Heaven?" I'm delighted to see it attained the visibilty and success it did, as I knew about the song itself some several months before I heard it on the radio. Great vocal dance song, and powerful synths accompanying it to give it a driving quality. Fo sheez, Kotzenjunge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kibagami Report post Posted November 6, 2002 ::wanders into the thread:: I know a lot about ska. Yeah. ::skanks away:: S. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Snakebyte Report post Posted November 6, 2002 Kotzenjunge, so your the Establish Raver~ what do you suggest for recent Rave music? Which sub-genre of Techo do you prefer? Which DJ is the best at this moment? I prefer the 90s Happy Hardcore, Ambient Trance, and the heavy breakbeat with hip-hop bass, but I am bored with the Jungle music of this time period (90s) Any opinion on DJ Sammy remix of Heaven? To me, Jungle is CRAP. Just random noise. I guess it's good if you're tripping on E or something, but it's impossible to tolerate sober. Back up there, Spanky. Not all jungle is mindless noise. The thing about techno is that most listeners decide where to put the DJ's. For instance, I've heard that Atari Teenage Riot (which I think is just noise) referred to as jungle, along with BT and Juno Reactor, which sound nothing like each other. I just know what I like. I'll stick with my boys: BT, Juno Reactor, Oakenfold, Digweed, and Daft Punk (which I suppose you could call funk techno). These, to me, are tried and true. I do find myself listening to a lot more breakbeat as of late though... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Amazing Rando Report post Posted November 7, 2002 The Great Metal Discography basically is a discography for every metal, hard rock, punk, ska, hardcore, etc etc band that existed in the mainstream up to about 2000 For instance...bands like Powerman 5000, Rage Against The Machine, Screeching Weasel, Less Than Jake, Metallica, and others are listed...a good 1200 bands or so... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CoreyLazarus416 Report post Posted November 7, 2002 Wow...so it pretty much only lists 20 metal bands? Oh dear... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Amazing Rando Report post Posted November 7, 2002 20....heh... well...it DOES NOT have Blind Guardian in it... but for some reason...it has Primus... but it has more than 20... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted November 7, 2002 The only music i can't stand is pop country and bubblegum pop. I'm not a fan of pop rap either. I don't mind the old Johnny Cash type country but i loathe the Garth Brooks type of country. I'm not saying i like all types of music, but i can be open minded to all of it other then the three i said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted November 7, 2002 The Great Metal Discography basically is a discography for every metal, hard rock, punk, ska, hardcore, etc etc band that existed in the mainstream up to about 2000 For instance...bands like Powerman 5000, Rage Against The Machine, Screeching Weasel, Less Than Jake, Metallica, and others are listed...a good 1200 bands or so... Ok, first of all, how does ska, punk, etc. fit into a METAL discography? Forget about that thing. Just start with some Slayer, buy a couple early Pantera albums just to see if you like them or not, since they're a band a lot of people are iffy on. Get the first two Black Sabbath releases, all the Cryptopsy you can handle, some Neurosis, Origin, Mayhem, Death, Deicide, Obituary, Morbid Angel, Carcass, Cannibal Corpse, Cephalic Carnage, Celtic Frost, Sepultura, Nailbomb, Amorphis, and maybe something like Dimmu Borgir. Most of those bands are pretty much love em' or hate em', and are all some pretty ugly stuff, Although everyone should have Sabbath and some Sepultura, IMO. Sabbath isn't really super heavy or anything, but it's great stuff anyway, influential and beyond, with a lot of awesome blues elements you don't really hear with other bands. Anyone who likes rock music in general must hear Black Sabbath, IMO. Give power metal a shot I guess, although other people will praise it a whole lot more than me. Iron Maiden is pretty much universal, maybe some other stuff like Manowar. I'm not really the person to ask about it, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kotzenjunge Report post Posted November 7, 2002 Someone ask me more questions! This educating thing is fun! (Once again, the future teacher comes out) Fo sheez, Kotzenjunge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted November 7, 2002 Which is cooler, the blast beat or the groove breakdown? This question pops in my head occasionally, and it makes blood vessels burst. Then, the right half of my brain looks at the left, and says "It's dark in here." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kotzenjunge Report post Posted November 7, 2002 Blast Beat, fo sheez. Come on, it has "Blast" in its name! Fo sheez, Kotzenjunge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted November 7, 2002 Blast beats do indeed rule, but they need a groove breakdown or two to balance things out. It's like asking you something like this (I think): Which is better? Kylie or Dancing? No saying Dancing to Kylie, either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kotzenjunge Report post Posted November 7, 2002 Damn, I was going to "Dancing to Kylie" as my answer too... Considering that dancing will gain me more social success than liking Kylie, my pragmatic side says Dancing is better. My romantic side says Kylie wins. Call it a draw, they're even. (And dancing to Kylie IS fun!) Fo sheez, Kotzenjunge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted November 7, 2002 HA! Now you understand my blast/groove dilemma. The thing is, if I were a drummer, I would literally do nothing but blast all day long. That's it. Nothing else, just blasts for 23 hours a day for 20 years until I was on par with Flo Mounier, then I'd shit my pants and roll around in it. But I'm not a drummer, see. And the groove breakdowns are the most fun fucking thing in the universe to do live. You can jump around, kick motherfuckers in the skull, doesn't matter, it's a goddamn breakdown, they're impossible to fuck up, and EVERYONE gets into it. It's okay to have a little more of one than the other, but it is essential to represent both to some degree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kotzenjunge Report post Posted November 7, 2002 Oh, I know you need both, I was just displaying my affection for the BLAST~! It's almost like the fact that a lot of Techno buildups are nothing without a nice snare roll, but I don't like snare rolls in and of themselves. Fo sheez, Kotzenjunge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted November 7, 2002 I think that dilemma is why I like grind so much. If I just wanted grooves, I'd be into hardcore instead, if I just wanted the blasts, I'd just be into black and death metal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CoreyLazarus416 Report post Posted November 8, 2002 Not too sure if it counts, but "Angel Of Death" is probably the best breakdown ever, if only because it induces a moshpit faster than the rest of the song. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted November 8, 2002 That's a good one. I like Locust Rain, by Converge a lot too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
