OK. Let's have a serious fucking discussion..

[Guest CanadianChick]

Basically, before the official start of the feud, it was like Edge 4, Angle 0. Since then, for every big match Angle's beaten Edge in, Edge has at least two big wins over Angle.

Nope. Angle beat Edge in their first PPV match and after their feud ended, they didn't have many high-profile matches. And don't you dare tell me that when Edge beat Angle in the tag team match this past Smackdown is counted as a defeat in a high profile match. Angle didn't job to the spear, he jobbed to Chris Benoit's diving headbutt.

[Guest Mulatto Heat]

Oh Lord, not this again.

 

I recall three instances of Angle beating Edge before their feud last Spring. Don't make me have to dig up the dates.

[Guest CanadianChick]

OKay, I misread your post. Whne did Edge defeat Angle before their feud?

[Guest Anglesault]

Basically, before the official start of the feud, it was like Edge 4, Angle 0. Since then, for every big match Angle's beaten Edge in, Edge has at least two big wins over Angle.

Nope. Angle beat Edge in their first PPV match and after their feud ended, they didn't have many high-profile matches. And don't you dare tell me that when Edge beat Angle in the tag team match this past Smackdown is counted as a defeat in a high profile match. Angle didn't job to the spear, he jobbed to Chris Benoit's diving headbutt.

Angle won the Backlash match, Edge won Judgment Day and The Cage match.

 

Edge won the big half hour classic on Smackdown, Angle won the tag titles at No Mercy, Edge won them on SD!

[Guest CanadianChick]

I don't think that you can count tag matches. There is always circumstances behind victories. For example, on this week's Smackdown

[Guest Anglesault]

Okay then, So Edge has one unanswered win, not including the four or so before April

[Guest CanadianChick]

four? Name me them, please.

[Guest MixxMaster]

ummm, isn't this the HHH pro's and con's thread???

 

 

Let's please keep things on the topic at hand, thank you very much...

[Guest Anglesault]

KotR, US Title, IC title (2x) (The IC matches aren't what I'd call high profile or important, but Im listing them because they were ttile matches and Edge dominated.)

[Guest CanadianChick]

ummm, isn't this the HHH pro's and con's thread???

 

 

Let's please keep things on the topic at hand, thank you very much...

Allright. Here's the question I'm wondering: if (and this is a BIG if) HHH cleanly jobs to somebody in the elimination chamber, will it have any effect? I mean, say RVD wins, will the title mean anything? Will it just look like a fluke?

[Guest Anglesault]

The title never has meant anything.

[Guest CanadianChick]

The title never has meant anything.

To us it doesn't, but it probably does to the general public. But will the winner (if not HHH) look like a credible champion? Because if it does, I'll consider that a pro of HHH.

[Guest Human Fly]

I'm seriously thinking that Booker T. will win the title tomorrow night on Raw and then HHH will win the title back at Survivor Series, possibly with HBK turning heel.

[Guest papacita]

Allright. Here's the question I'm wondering: if (and this is a BIG if) HHH cleanly jobs to somebody in the elimination chamber, will it have any effect? I mean, say RVD wins, will the title mean anything? Will it just look like a fluke?

 

Really all depends on how many matches he wins and how many people are coming after the title.

 

ummm, isn't this the HHH pro's and con's thread???

 

 

Let's please keep things on the topic at hand, thank you very much...

Pro: Chyna hates him...

[Guest papacita]

I'm seriously thinking that Booker T. will win the title tomorrow night on Raw and then HHH will win the title back at Survivor Series, possibly with HBK turning heel.

Isn't the Raw match non-title?

[Guest CanadianChick]

That would be worst case senerio. Somebody, anybody else has to win. If HHH wins yet again, the matches and feuds involving HHH will cease to intereset me (not that they really do to begin with) because I will be able to predict every match and feud, and if I will be able to, so will the general public soon enough.

[Guest MixxMaster]

That all depends on the booking. It will not be easy to make anyone look strong in a multi-elimination match. And I seriously doubt that the J.O.B. will be clean, because of the stipulation...

Of course, HHH is supposed to be an INTENSE monster heel, and probably won't lose "clean" for a LONG time, lest he would lose a good chunk of his heat...

 

OMFG...did I just defend HHH??? please, shoot me now...

[Guest MixxMaster]

Isn't the Raw match non-title?

Since WWE.com isn't saying that it is a title match, which MAY help ratings, it's safe to assume that it will be non-title

[Guest CanadianChick]

That all depends on the booking. It will not be easy to make anyone look strong in a multi-elimination match. And I seriously doubt that the J.O.B. will be clean, because of the stipulation...

Of course, HHH is supposed to be an INTENSE monster heel, and probably won't lose "clean" for a LONG time, lest he would lose a good chunk of his heat...

 

OMFG...did I just defend HHH??? please, shoot me now...

 

There you go.

I've got a question: How come HHH is the only heel allowed to ALWAYS look strong? Not even the so-called Golden Boy Brock Lesner does (ex. vs. the Undertaker)

[Guest NoCalMike]

Ok as far as Triple H goes, I will repeat what I have said all the time. I have NEVER been a fan of his in-ring work, be-it NOW or in his so-called "glory-days" of 2000. To me he has always been just boring in the ring. Not to say there hasn't been matches he was involved that I didn't like, but Triple H himself has always been a crappy worker to me. So add that to all the so-called backstage politics he is involved with(alledgedly) and that sums up my opinion on Triple H

[Guest Brian]

Uggh, I'm reminded now that Waltman and Chyna are going out now.

[Guest CanadianChick]

Uggh, I'm reminded now that Waltman and Chyna are going out now.

bwhahahaha!

I wonder who wears the pants in THAT relationship...

[Guest BifEverchad]

Uggh, I'm reminded now that Waltman and Chyna are going out now.

Zoinks??

 

[Guest Smell the ratings!!!]

Uggh, I'm reminded now that Waltman and Chyna are going out now.

That's so wrong on so many levels. Seriously.

 

Anyway, we better hope that the match on Raw is for the title. If it's not, Booker is guranteed to get the win, which means he is also guranteed to get Pedigreed on Sunday. Bleh.

[Guest alfdogg]

 

Best. Picture. Ever.

[Guest Just call me Dan]

I truly believe that if HHH were to outlast everyone in the elimination chamber, only to lose clean to Booker, RVD, or Jericho, their credibility would be instantly revived and I'd slack off HHH, as long as he was kept away from the title for a while.

 

He can have good use in making the RAW brand's side of the PPV stacked, because you have a title match, and then a match with him in it (his name value would help, although I wouldn't want to see the match. You know what I'm getting at.)

 

It just seems like it is HHH vs whoever for the title, he wins, and all the other matches get no build and they suck. That's RAW in a nutshell. Focusing on a title feud between 2 people other than Hunter, and then him being in a separate feud (whcih you KNOW will get a lot of build because he's in it) would really help out RAW.

[Guest eirejmcmahon]

IF there is a title change at Survivor Series then it's VITAL for the belt that the winner eliminates HHH perosnally.

[Guest papacita]

Uggh, I'm reminded now that Waltman and Chyna are going out now.

 

WTF?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!!?!?!?

 

[Guest snowfan]

HGH bites.

 

His workrate is a joke as compared to the trinity.

 

He is NOT charismatic on the mic.

 

He is a heat vacuum as currently booked.

 

I think he has some "uncle pat" action going on...

[Guest humongous2002]

Wait just a minute!!!!!!!!It's this true?????!!!!Waltman and Chyna are going out??????Xpac and Chyna?????????GTFO.