Guest ManKinnd Report post Posted November 11, 2002 Some still speak of Regal fondly, and it's killing me. Why? Why is Regal good? Because of one absolute classic with Benoit and a few watchable matches with Fit Finlay? Do these make him any less sucky today? Even when I got into his matches with Edge, no one else did, so they weren't "good." So what has in done in the WWF/E? Nothing. Nothing at all, in the least. In fact, what has he done ****+ without Benoit or Finlay? How many good matches does one wrestler need to be forever in the hearts of certain fans? One? Two? No one likes Scott Hall, but what about his two classic ladder matches with Shawn? I understand, this guy is a good stiff mat wrestler, but those days are sickeningly and obviously over. Can we please get over Regal? He sucks. I mean, I'm willing to accept reasons that he doesn't, reasons that don't include "he's not meshing with the WWE style." So? A good enough wrestler will. He didn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 11, 2002 ::Banishes Makinnd from the Happy Kingdom:: ::All is right with the world:: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted November 11, 2002 I agree with the first poster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted November 11, 2002 Why is Regal good? Because he is one of the most over people on the roster and always has heel heat and can put on entertaining matches. Even when I got into his matches with Edge, no one else did, so they weren't "good." I'm so glad you value your opinion that much. I enjoyed the Regal-Edge series a lot but since no one else did I'm just going to along with everyone and bash them. In fact, what has he done ****+ without Benoit or Finlay? Regal has had some great matches with Steamboat, AA, Flair and Sting. In the WWF/E I enjoyed his work with Chris Jericho. Can we please get over Regal? He sucks. Not many people here like Regal. I'm one of the very few he does. He always entertains the hell out of me and he's the only reason why I continue watch RAW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted November 11, 2002 I don't really care all that much about Regal's wrestling. He's a good wrestler of his style, but clashes like hell with everybody. The reason he has a lot of smark fans is the fact that he comes off damn cool on TV. Whether mocking Hulkamania, his humorous or compelling promos (not that all of them are, but he's had some good ones), or little stuff like his fondness for collecting lizards (and mentioning how he prefers them over people) on Confidential, he comes off as likable even though he's a heel. Plus, for some one who is good friends with Triple H, he hasn't become another X-Pac (even though he gets X-Pac like heat from marks), riding his coattails, winning nearly every damn match he's ever in and being used to kill the pushes of up-and-coming midcarders so that HHH doesn't have to deal with them. Plus, when the hell has ring work been a concern of the WWE? Geez, wake up and smell the hoss-shit. Lousy ring-work alone will not get him a pink slip unless he's Kronik bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DJ Jeff Report post Posted November 11, 2002 I never was a big fan of Regal. Well, when he changed his entrance music to that cool, gothic music I sorta became somewhat of a fan. Then again, that's just because of the entrance music. Plus, he did play a fairly good heel, especially when he joined the Alliance. I'll never forget when he helped Austin win the WWE Title. That was about the only time I actually thought Regal was god. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted November 11, 2002 One thing about Regal's X-Pac heat- During the Invasion Regal was able to get over as a face and in May he got a loud pop for bitching out HHH. During the Invasion in one match with Kidman, X-Pac tried to work as a face like it was 1999 again but no one cared Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted November 11, 2002 In fact, what has he done ****+ without Benoit or Finlay? Regal has had some great matches with Steamboat, AA, Flair and Sting. In the WWF/E I enjoyed his work with Chris Jericho. Er...no offense Bob, but AA/Flair/Steamboat were the top workers of their day, so that doesn't really prove too much. If he were facing a mediocre or average worker, then it would be easier to judge. Jericho's a good worker and Sting...well, Sting varies wildly, in different time periods as well as his fandom among smarks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted November 11, 2002 I know but a good match is a good match. He got a good match out of Larry Zybysko at Slamboree 94. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted November 11, 2002 One thing about Regal's X-Pac heat- During the Invasion Regal was able to get over as a face and in May he got a loud pop for bitching out HHH. During the Invasion in one match with Kidman, X-Pac tried to work as a face like it was 1999 again but no one cared True, but I think anyone who would tell HHH to shut up would get face heat. Unless it was under the same or similar circumstances, it's hard to tell. I'm not totally with you, or totally against you, I just have my opinions, Bob. =/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted November 11, 2002 I know but a good match is a good match. He got a good match out of Larry Zybysko at Slamboree 94. Now that is an achievement, I must say. Alas, that IS almost 8 years ago. And the original poster isn't denying he's had good matches, but not very recently he's saying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted November 11, 2002 I know but a good match is a good match. He got a good match out of Larry Zybysko at Slamboree 94. I didn't realize that stalling for like 10 minutes constitutes a good match.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Redhawk Report post Posted November 11, 2002 I like Regal as a character, but as a wrestler...? He's boring as all hell. Every single Regal match I've seen, no matter how fast the guy he's in there with is (RVD, Jericho, Benoit, Pillman, The Rock, etc.) becomes a slowed-down affair. I mean, he's worse than Kane and almost on Big Show's level with that shit. And it's not like it's due to age. The earliest Regal match I saw was from 1994, and he was slow even then. But as a character, the guy is good. I like his mic work and his facial expressions. And that even carries over into the ring, where he can tell a story as well as anyone with just a single look or gesture. Now as far as the "he generates heat" thing, isn't a lot of that cheap heat? He's pretty much had an anti-American gimmick since he's been in the big-time. And even when he was a face for a couple of weeks, you just knew he was going to turn. His whole British thing was in conflict with being a face. So yes, he draws heat. But couldn't any guy, given that same gimmick, draw as much heat? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mach7 Report post Posted November 11, 2002 Regal is an EXCELLENT character. As a wrestler he can be very great or very poor. It all depends on whom he is working with.. but that rule goes for almost everyone. I still like him. He's fucking hilarious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted November 11, 2002 I liked how Larry was fucking with Regal's head the whole match and then ended up getting the win. I admit that this year Regal hasn't had any classics but I've enjoyed his work v. Edge, RVD and his team with Chris Harvard. I think the Commonwealth Connection has some potential- I've enjoyed their recent work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest papacita Report post Posted November 11, 2002 I've been a fan of Regal since his first TV Title run in WCW...he's a solid wrestler and I always enjoyed his snobbish character. As for his style...I don't think his problem in WWE is that he clashes with everyone elses, it's that he's not given enough time to tell a real story. A perfect example is his match with RVD from Wrestlemania. The match itself wasn't all that bad, but it just seemed so rushed...and I get that feeling from a lot of his matches. If his matches were slowed a bit and he was allowed to do a bit more mat wrestling, his matches would be a lot better IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ManKinnd Report post Posted November 11, 2002 Even when I got into his matches with Edge, no one else did, so they weren't "good." I'm so glad you value your opinion that much. I enjoyed the Regal-Edge series a lot but since no one else did I'm just going to along with everyone and bash them. Not what I meant at all. I saw the Edge matches as a reason to like Regal, but no one on this board who liked him enjoyed those matches, so they couldn't have been a reason for them to like him. OK? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Paranoid Report post Posted November 11, 2002 If Regal is in a match, it usually slower then most. I like the character also and some of his ring work is good. But his is a mid-carder for life now. I think he fills that role well. A good solid heel that can also go as a face if needed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted November 11, 2002 Regal, in the WWF, from what I have seen, hasn't had anything above *** (being generous) and his work (in the WWF) doesn't warrant the praise he gets. I am not saying he is unable to have a good match - it's just he hasn't done anything special but have good facial expressions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Breetai Report post Posted November 11, 2002 Regal should be an evil commish, but not an in-ring persona. Or.... HEY! Can you say HEEL ANNOUNCER!?!?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted November 11, 2002 Yeah, "Raven". They should just put Regal in a feud (or matches) with like Angle, or Benoit, or even Lesnar. Someone who he can at least, possibly, work a good match with. Actually, he had a pretty good match with Lance Storm a year or so ago (3 minute raw match - but hey) where he just stiffed the shit out of him (though, if you heard it from lance, they were so good that they presented the image of Regal stiffing him but really it was all light ) so maybe even a program with Lance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted November 11, 2002 Considering he can still hit people and take to the mat, a large part of what gets him praise, I'd still assume he's holding back quite a bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BifEverchad Report post Posted November 11, 2002 Regal's strength is in his character, the guy is a great worker when it comes to his mic work in promos and his facial expressions during segments and matches. That alone make me a bit of a Regal mark. I'll admit, since coming into the WWE, he hasnt put off many memorable gems. He has faced a wide array of opponents, from good workers to bad workers, and has even held a few Titles. The only match that I truely enjoyed and would even call a great match was a match he had on RAW around the end of 2000 or the beginning of 2001, with Steve Austin. This was shortly after Austin cameback from his 2000-injury and was the Main Event of that particular show. This match proved that Austin was fully healed from his injury, and could work on the same level from when he left. They meshed well, and put off a stellar match-up, in my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BA_Baracus Report post Posted November 11, 2002 He was good when he first debuted in the WWE. He had some good matches with Austin and a few other guys...I used to like him. He's gotten lazy though. He hasn't had a good match in ages and no longer deserves to be as pushed as he is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted November 11, 2002 HEY! Can you say HEEL ANNOUNCER!?!?! That's were I'd like to see Regal. The WWE needs a real heel announcer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest eirejmcmahon Report post Posted November 11, 2002 Regal is tailor made for a managerial/commisioner position but is deathly dull in the ring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted November 11, 2002 Regal's done, IMO. I never really thought he was that tremendous of a worker, personally, but I've always enjoyed his character. His matches with Benoit and Finlay are definitely his top stuff, but he also had a decent tag match w/Flair against Sting and Steamboat in 94 that stands out to me. Anymore, he's pretty much useless in the ring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Respect The 'Taker Report post Posted November 11, 2002 Why is Regal good? Because he is one of the most over people on the roster and always has heel heat and can put on entertaining matches. Even when I got into his matches with Edge, no one else did, so they weren't "good." I'm so glad you value your opinion that much. I enjoyed the Regal-Edge series a lot but since no one else did I'm just going to along with everyone and bash them. In fact, what has he done ****+ without Benoit or Finlay? Regal has had some great matches with Steamboat, AA, Flair and Sting. In the WWF/E I enjoyed his work with Chris Jericho. Can we please get over Regal? He sucks. Not many people here like Regal. I'm one of the very few he does. He always entertains the hell out of me and he's the only reason why I continue watch RAW. REGAL MARK! REGAL MARK! REEEGAAALLLL MARK!!!!! ...Sorry Illusion EDIT - I might as well have some input here...i agree with Agent...that'll bout do me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest saturnmark4life Report post Posted November 11, 2002 yeah, i like regal but saying he's one of the most over people on the roster is kinda like me saying saturn was. I agree w/ agent too pretty much, if he went to japan he could be a motherfucker but 2 minute tag matches with one shitty suplex and a few forearms are his lot for the foreseeable future. He has gotten lazy, for the same reasons mike awesome and saturn did. They knew they weren't going anywhere. It's a shame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted November 11, 2002 I think Regal should play a Skinner gimmick due to his extensive Reptile collection. That'd be a good role for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites