Guest Tim Cooke Report post Posted November 12, 2002 Just got in a Lynch order with a Sambo tape that features Volk Han. He demonstrates everything and it is pretty fucking awesome. Where is Han now? I think it would so cool for him to start a worked shoot promotion based on the best of RINGS and the best of Sambo. Tim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted November 12, 2002 enlighten me... what is sambo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyChosyu Report post Posted November 12, 2002 I think I already told Tim this, but I'm pretty sure Zach posted something a few months ago about Nagai pulling for Han in AJPW through his old RINGS connections, and Russian-speaking abilities. Aside from a certain Dream Match that might be underwelming, I would rather not see Han anywhere near Mutoh's circus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest PlatypusFool Report post Posted November 12, 2002 Yeah, what is Sambo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DragonflyKid Report post Posted November 12, 2002 PlatypusFool Posted on Nov 12 2002, 03:04 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yeah, what is Sambo? It's a Russian form of Wrestling and self-defense training. Sambo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tim Cooke Report post Posted November 12, 2002 RollingChop has it correct. It is a very cool form of self defense that has been made into a regular sport in Russia. Volk Han used these techniques in his RINGS matches. The mat work is so crazy that is puts anything else in the world to shame. The T2P guys don't even come close to comparing to Han on the mat in terms of moves and realism. Tim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Last Warrior Report post Posted November 12, 2002 Sounds cool. If you have never seen any before then what tapes would you reccomend starting out with. I am curious to see this Han fellow in action after you analogy with the T2P guys. P.S. 100th posts rule. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tim Cooke Report post Posted November 12, 2002 Go order a custom tape from Lynch. Have him include the following: The 20 minute Submission Exhibition w/ Han from Sambo Tape #1 9/25/96 Han v Tamura (RINGS) 1/22/97 Han v Tamura (RINGS) 9/26/97 Han v Tamura (RINGS) 6/27/98 Tamura v Kohsaka (RINGS) That should all fit quite nicely on a T-120 in SP. It will probably be the best 25.00 that you have ever spent on a single tape for wrestling. Tim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Last Warrior Report post Posted November 12, 2002 Ok, what is the address of this Jeff Lynch please. Does he do PAL copies of his tapes because I live in England and thus NTSC do not co-operate with my video. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wolverine Report post Posted November 13, 2002 His e-mail is in the "New to Puroresu" folder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Evil Ash Report post Posted November 13, 2002 Oleg Taktarov, everybody's favourite MMA bleeder-turned Hollywood actor, is a practitioner of Sambo. In fact, I think that it's the martial art of choice of the Russian army. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jubuki Report post Posted November 13, 2002 Uh, yeah, considering Volk TRAINED them once upon a time, it sounds like a good possibility. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted November 14, 2002 Uh, yeah, considering Volk TRAINED them once upon a time, it sounds like a good possibility. no shit??? fuck! i have heard a ton about volk but have never seen him work. for those of you who are into mma, what is the preferred promotion? i have seen a little bit of pride and have a K1 tourney lying around somwhere. i have yet to see any Rings. what are the differences in the promotions' styles? is it all worked or shoot or a bit of both? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyChosyu Report post Posted November 14, 2002 RINGS was completely worked. K1 and especially Pride, while heavilly influenced by pro wrestling, are MMA companies at their core. You should ask your question about MMA in its specified folder, as you would probably get a better response over there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jubuki Report post Posted November 14, 2002 It wasn't completely worked. There were shoots as early as 97. It went full-on shoot by the end of the decade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyChosyu Report post Posted November 14, 2002 Shows what I know about RINGS. After hearing Tim always refer to Kohsaka, Tamura, and Han as awesome pro wrestlers, I just assumed that the promotion mainly delt with worked matches, even if they were ment to look realistic. My bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Last Warrior Report post Posted November 14, 2002 You should ask your question about MMA in its specified folder, as you would probably get a better response over there. Not really. You do not get many MMA fans that know a lot about it on these forums. You are better off going to sherdog or MMA.tv for all that kind of chat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tim Cooke Report post Posted November 14, 2002 RINGS had a very whacked out philosophy going into 1996 in that they initiated mostly shoots in the under card and had the better workers do the main events in works to make sure the crowd left the building satisfied. So, Han and Tamura....as well as Kohsaka to some extent are "Professional Wrestlers". You can see the key differences between a somewhat high praised Tamura/Mikhail match from 1/98 which I found to be okay but real shoots don't allow for the great creativity that worked shoots do. Oh yea, the best match from RINGS is 6/27/98 Tamura v Kohsaka yet the BEST worker in RINGS history from 1993-1998 was Volk Han. Tim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyChosyu Report post Posted November 15, 2002 Not really. You do not get many MMA fans that know a lot about it on these forums. You are better off going to sherdog or MMA.tv for all that kind of chat. The fact that you can't get a decent discusion on MMA in the MMA folder says a lot about how much the subject is discused on these forrums in general. RINGS had a very whacked out philosophy going into 1996 in that they initiated mostly shoots in the under card and had the better workers do the main events in works to make sure the crowd left the building satisfied. That is pretty wacked out. If the real draw was worked fights, why not try to initiate the workers based on how good they were at doing works? I suppose they wanted the fans to buy the aura of realism by putting the workers in shoots. Was this a system adopted from UWF? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tim Cooke Report post Posted November 15, 2002 "That is pretty wacked out. If the real draw was worked fights, why not try to initiate the workers based on how good they were at doing works? I suppose they wanted the fans to buy the aura of realism by putting the workers in shoots. Was this a system adopted from UWF?" Maeda just lost his mind somewhere after all the hard kicks to the head UWF always ran worked shoots for the most part except in special advertised matches, which I can't think of any off the top of my head. UWF-I didn't do that either. Tim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
