Guest Ram Report post Posted November 12, 2002 HBK said he'd do anything he had to to ensure HHH's loss. All signs point to HHH losing. RVD is the only one who can logically win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest converge241 Report post Posted November 12, 2002 I think HHH will win (hey Angle survived 5 opponents in HITC Armaggeddon so theres precedent for surviving against all odds kayfabe wise) A lot of people missed what the original poster was asking: If trips would physically eliminate everyone one by one. I say no. they will have others get the falls to build up hope of another possible outcome, just like they had Jericho left standing over Shawn and HHH on Raw. They just wouldnt book something so stupid *thinks about some of the stuff they have done, decides to knock on wood* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted November 12, 2002 I only say that the time is now, because the time was actually 10 months ago or so...and now is the closest we're ever going to get to that time. Just because it is what is going to happen, doesn't make it the right course of action. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted November 12, 2002 It's no more wrong than anything else. People can love Booker as much as they want...but it isn't adding heat to his matches. Everyone else would be a disaster. Booker or RVD. Booker has had 5 titles, RVD has 0 I'm ready for something completely different No matter who wins the show is still going to focus on HHH anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted November 12, 2002 Right, which is why it will be a failure. At the very least, they need to focus around the champion. Or at least the champion's opponent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted November 12, 2002 Get the records out Illusion, because you are wrong this time. I'd bet anything on it (including the maximum 250.00 dollars in the SS gambling thread). No one is more bitter and anti HHH than I am, but the signs are speaking to me and I am 100% confident that HHH will be the last person eliminated...and not win. They have a FEW good songs, relax UYI. I really think we'll see HHH doing his reinactment of the Doomsday Cage match, minus having a partner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted November 12, 2002 Right, which is why it will be a failure. At the very least, they need to focus around the champion. Or at least the champion's opponent. But that isn't going to change no matter which one wins the belt. How much of Jericho's reign was about him? The answer: Everything until January 7th. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted November 12, 2002 It's no more wrong than anything else. People can love Booker as much as they want...but it isn't adding heat to his matches. Everyone else would be a disaster. Booker or RVD. Booker has had 5 titles, RVD has 0 I'm ready for something completely different No matter who wins the show is still going to focus on HHH anyway. I'm soooo hoping for HHH to lose. HBK is only saying he'd try to win because the LEAST his character wants to do is get the title off HHH. Character wise, he'd love to win the title if possible, but he'd be happy just as long as some one besides HHH wins the thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest candie45 Report post Posted November 12, 2002 The outcome of the match is all revolving on what they book Shawn to do. He will either cheat for someone else to eliminate HHH or swerve and join him. That's it. Oh, and Raw just decreased Jericho's chances of winning from about .001 to the negatives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest converge241 Report post Posted November 12, 2002 yes i know about Jericho's chances thats why its a "build up hope" move for all the marks (as in build up false hope) but still , its nice traditional booking 101 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest candie45 Report post Posted November 12, 2002 ..... I didn't say that in reference to what you said. It was just a random statement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted November 12, 2002 Wow, this thread turned into a better discussion than I thought it would, cool! Anyhow, here are a few thoughts real quick from me... 1) Whoever wins, I predict, will be feuding with the debuting Scott Steiner. I know you don't want to believe it, but I feel that WILL happen, whoever it is. 2) Yes Hogan called himself God in WCW, but that isn't all. He basiclly called the nWo his followers, his fans his worshipers, and am I the only one that remembers his freaking Diciple (Brutus!)? The nWo was basicly built around a religious gimmick, without TOTALLY coming out and making it that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2002 Wow, this thread turned into a better discussion than I thought it would, cool! Anyhow, here are a few thoughts real quick from me... 1) Whoever wins, I predict, will be feuding with the debuting Scott Steiner. I know you don't want to believe it, but I feel that WILL happen, whoever it is. 2) Yes Hogan called himself God in WCW, but that isn't all. He basiclly called the nWo his followers, his fans his worshipers, and am I the only one that remembers his freaking Diciple (Brutus!)? The nWo was basicly built around a religious gimmick, without TOTALLY coming out and making it that. Does that mean when Hogan left the nWo and Bret Hart became leader that Bret Hart was Jesus? Or was that Scott Steiner's job? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted November 12, 2002 well, if you put it that way downhome, knowing the fed's mentality, i could easily see them thinking kane-steiner would be a great feud!!! i mean, really, now i have to revert back to my original pick of kane for winning the match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rob Edwards Report post Posted November 12, 2002 I'm sure HHH will lose to HBK, he knows that way he can drag his pitiful main event reign iut a bit longer, I'm a little confused what you mean by us revolting though DH, havn't we been doing that about HGH for a while now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted November 12, 2002 I'm sure HHH will lose to HBK, he knows that way he can drag his pitiful main event reign iut a bit longer, I'm a little confused what you mean by us revolting though DH, havn't we been doing that about HGH for a while now? Revolt was just a word I picked, I dunno, lol. I almost hope it happens, just so I can sit back and laugh at the situation. I think if it happens, then FINALLY people will realize the cancer that is HHH, and possibly we could use that as a foundation for others to finally stand up to that kind of bullsh*t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rob Edwards Report post Posted November 12, 2002 you'd have thought someone would have noticed the dead crowds during his main events, he probably thinks they are in awe though short of chanting "This match sucks" during all his matches I don't see what can be done, although come to think of it I might be onto something there should it ever catch on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Respect The 'Taker Report post Posted November 13, 2002 What's with all this god damn 'Kane hating'. The half of you write as though Kane having the belt besides HHH is a BAD thing!? Kane isn't that bad Illusion-ites, really, and while there are much more favourable wrestlers in there by which we'd like to see as champion, if it did come down to Kane & Humping Huge Homo's then i sure as hell would want Kane to come out on top. He's faster and more appealing than HHH if you ask me...not that it says much in stating that. Illusion - Saliva who? GET A REAL BAND! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted November 13, 2002 vbro, the point is that kane is not the ideal mn to carry a belt. i don't exactly recall the crowd going apeshit while watching a kane match. plus, are YOU looking forward to the eventual kane-steiner showdown? i sure in the hell am not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MarvinisaLunatic Report post Posted November 13, 2002 If HHH doesn't win I'll probably revolt. Honestly, HHH is the only person that should and will win the match. RVD hasn't been main event callibre level now for 2 months. Jericho hasn't been for 8 months. HHH beat both Booker T and Kane, so they aren't winning. Which leaves HBK who owes GOD a job.. The Elimination Chamber is all about HHH defying what looks to be insurmountable odds of 5 men all after his title, with some not caring if they win or not as long as he doesn't. Face it, thats what he's going to do too.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BaldFish Report post Posted November 13, 2002 ...and then the WWE can either: A) finally take responsibility and put the belt on a non-spoilt wrestler with "potential" in either Steiner or Batista, or B) Job Steiner and Batista out to HHH in the hopes of making him look good for the next "potential". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dangerous A Report post Posted November 13, 2002 I'm sure HHH will lose to HBK, he knows that way he can drag his pitiful main event reign iut a bit longer, I'm a little confused what you mean by us revolting though DH, havn't we been doing that about HGH for a while now? Revolt was just a word I picked, I dunno, lol. I almost hope it happens, just so I can sit back and laugh at the situation. I think if it happens, then FINALLY people will realize the cancer that is HHH, and possibly we could use that as a foundation for others to finally stand up to that kind of bullsh*t. While I agree with your statement that HHH is a cancer, I have to state that Vince allows for the bullshit tv and constant HHH throat shoving you have been seeing. Vince is the one who needs to wake up and realize that HHH shouldn't be the focal point of the show. Hopefully this week's rating will wake him up to that fact. New stars and talent need to be infused into Raw RIGHT FUCKING NOW! There is not one Raw star I am even slightly interested in anymore, and that includes the good workers. They have done such a miserable job that I just wait and pray for when Vince will end this God forsaken brand split. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Bad Barry Horowitz Report post Posted November 13, 2002 Why should you revolt? HHH is deserving of the win. None of the others have put the time and dedication in the business that HHH has. He still puts on the best matches, and it's obvious the crowd wants HHH in the top spot to stay! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest snowfan Report post Posted November 13, 2002 Why should you revolt? HHH is deserving of the win. None of the others have put the time and dedication in the business that HHH has. He still puts on the best matches, and it's obvious the crowd wants HHH in the top spot to stay! thank you Verne Gagne... yes Greg is THE future... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dangerous A Report post Posted November 13, 2002 Sorry, Barry. The crowd may pop for the man's entrance, but the viewers at home (the important people) don't want him on top. The sad part is, because of lack of viewers, I'm not sure anyone knows who wants who on top. State of the business: pure and utter shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted November 13, 2002 If you end the split, then the workers we do care about get screwed over by the RAW guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest snowfan Report post Posted November 13, 2002 If you end the split, then the workers we do care about get screwed over by the RAW guys. Imagine how rapidly HGH would be fed Matt, Angle, Benoit, and Eddy to show "who the real best worker-uh is".... I say leave the trinity right where they are... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheGame2705 Report post Posted November 13, 2002 HHH said it's gonna be he and Booker in the end and Shawn would cost HHH the match. Too obvious? Hey it IS WWE after all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dangerous A Report post Posted November 13, 2002 My problem is no one is buying into the brand split. The fans see it as just some stupid storyline bit and they don't feel there is a real split. A problem is even though SD has some real hot matchups right now, they will sometime down the road burn out. Both shows are lacking some serious undercard development right now, which doesn't look good for the future. Guys on both brands need to either be repackaged, given fresher matchups, or ramped down (HHH and Taker). Money players need to be created and I don't see that happening while there is a "supposed" brand split. The crowd has to have hope for the undercard to someday make it to the upper card, and if you look on both Raw and SD, the future doesn't look good at all. At least SD has a very good main event picture right now. Raw is just shit from top to bottom. But both shows need to look at who is going to draw for them in the future, not bringing back old stars who pull their pop the crowd trickery and make themselves look good for a hot month or so, but then interest in them has died because we've all seen that song and dance.(see Hogan, NWO, Flair, and soon to be Scott Steiner) The midcard is your future and the future don't look good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Creepy Crawl Report post Posted November 13, 2002 If HHH wins I will .............. be pissed but keep watching hoping one day it will get better as in Stone Cold coming back . Now if Big Toe beats Brock ......... I will do the same thing . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites