So whats the big deal about RVD?

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

"Outside his entrance and spots Rob doesn't really get that much reaction anyway, the pops for his spots diminish as people see them more too I mean don't get me wrong he's far from the worst guy on Raw but talking flagship stars I still think Booker and Jericho given the opportunity could draw much higher ratings "

 

 

No they couldn't.

 

Jericho wasn't beleivable the first time they tried, now he's even worse off.

 

Booker's matches get far less reaction than RVD's do.

 

I UNDERSTAND who your favorites are, but it doesn't make them right. Booker is old to boot, and always talks about hanging it up soon, so they aren't going to flagship him any time soon.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

I never said he could.

[Guest Rob Edwards]

It's not a case of who my favourates are, it's a case of who I think is in the best position to pop ratings and IMO a Booker/Jericho feud would do that if it was solo and at the top of the card. Great promos and good matches if given the time = ratings

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

Oh come on.

 

You seriously think that a Booker vs. Jericho feud is going to pop ratings?

 

#1. No matter who the champion is, HHH will dominate the show.

 

We've already proven that Jericho can't stand up to that.

 

#2. Booker isn't that good. RVD may suck, but at least the crowd cares. We can go back to the please tell me the last good Booker singles match thing...or we can look at how his WCW title reigns when he was better than now didn't attract viewers either.

 

 

I went and found this quote from a Keith review:

 

"Crowd is totally into RVD. Okay, Paul, PUSH RVD NOW! It doesn't matter if he sucks, the crowd is eating him up and you need something to jumpstart your sorry little fed right now"

 

It may have been about ECW in 99, but it strangely fits here too.

[Guest cabbageboy]

I was the only one till now who had made that connection, haha. RVD seems to be the one guy who is constantly underpushed no matter what fed he is in. I can't explain why, but even Heyman just would not let him have the title either. Now in WWE he is being misused about as bad.

[Guest Rob Edwards]

Yeah RVD should have had the belt in ECW I'll give you that

 

The Booker problem is he hasn't had chances to work good matches for a while now, last time he was given the chance waaaay back at the start of the Invasion angle he was delivering the goods

 

If it wasn't for HGH then yeah I think a well booked Booker v Jericho feud could bring the crowds back, both guys have been over (Jericho was super over when he first turned before being buried and Booker was huge around Vengeance time) let them play off each other and build each others heat, thats what you get when egomaniacs like Tripps are kept out of things. Point is HHH needs dropping (yeah I know it won't happen ) RVD can't stand up to him either now Steiner on the other hand......

[Guest NoCalMike]

Fact is, RVD's push should have come a few months back when is was even more over than Now. Why didn't Vince see that he was getting louder pops than the Rock during their match when RVD FIRST SHOWED UP, and Rock was the #1 face? Of course over time if you have a guy do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, then the heat will dissolve, but RVD is one of the few workers right now that has recieved monster pops even though he isn't doing anything consistently important on RAW. If he is on Smackdown it is a no brainer that he stays in the midcard for the time being, but on a shitty Raw, who the hell else can carry the show right now? Name someone more suited RIGHT NOW, and WHY?

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

Fact is, RVD's push should have come a few months back when is was even more over than Now. Why didn't Vince see that he was getting louder pops than the Rock during their match when RVD FIRST SHOWED UP, and Rock was the #1 face? Of course over time if you have a guy do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, then the heat will dissolve, but RVD is one of the few workers right now that has recieved monster pops even though he isn't doing anything consistently important on RAW. If he is on Smackdown it is a no brainer that he stays in the midcard for the time being, but on a shitty Raw, who the hell else can carry the show right now? Name someone more suited RIGHT NOW, and WHY?

I completely agree with this..

[Guest razazteca]

Name someone more suited RIGHT NOW, and WHY?

 

I'm going to call Ernest Miller's Mama, so he can be the voice for RVD. Some Cat-bo training can add a new spark to the educated feet of RVD, keep an eye out for the cartwheel kick.

[Guest Rob Edwards]

Someone more suited to the #1 face spot?

 

Booker - Good ring work (when allowed the time), Good Mic work, an over catchphrase and a marketable move plus his race which could help marketability even if noone likes to admit it

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

Someone more suited to the #1 face spot?

 

Booker - Good ring work (when allowed the time), Good Mic work, an over catchphrase and a marketable move plus his race which could help marketability even if noone likes to admit it

Booker is too old, plus he's going to retire next year.

 

RVD has had better matches, more frequently. (No Mercy 3-Way, InVasion Hardcore, HC Title vs. Jerry Lynn, Anything against UT, vs. Benoit, vs. Jericho, Ladder Match vs. Jeff Hardy, 10 Man at Survivor Series, Tag match on RAW against HHH and Y2J the night HHH was handed the belt.)

 

Booker's catchphrase isn't as over as "R-V-D, R-V-D, R-V-D,"

 

 

Van Dam's style of ring work is a complete change from what the WWE has now, just as Hogan's was from Backlund, and Austin's was from Bret.

 

RVD is the best move.

[Guest Rob Edwards]

Hmm I wouldn't agree with most of those matches being that good, especially any of the Taker ones but I guess thats not really the point

 

Sure Booker is getting on but he's in good physical shape and hasn't been injured a lot down the years so he'd be fine for the next couple of years which you can use to build people around him, including RVD if he improves his mic work and modifies his style a bit so I don't feel like I'm watching Olympic Gymnasts all the time

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

Hmm I wouldn't agree with most of those matches being that good, especially any of the Taker ones but I guess thats not really the point

 

Sure Booker is getting on but he's in good physical shape and hasn't been injured a lot down the years so he'd be fine for the next couple of years which you can use to build people around him, including RVD if he improves his mic work and modifies his style a bit so I don't feel like I'm watching Olympic Gymnasts all the time

It seems like your trying to find reasons for Booker to be the top face, rather than looking for a top face and deciding Booker is the best canidate.

 

 

RVD is the ONLY man for the job. If he can't carry RAW, than they have to kill the BE now, because no one can.