Guest Downhome Report post Posted November 17, 2002 Yes folks, if we do not covert to Islam and stop supporting Israel, we will feel the wrath of the Muslim-Extremists... (AP) - A statement attributed to al-Qaida threatened more attacks in New York and Washington unless America stops supporting Israel and converts to Islam, an Arab TV reporter who received the unsigned document said Saturday. Yosri Fouda, correspondent for the satellite station Al-Jazeera, told The Associated Press he received the six-page document on Wednesday. That was a day after the TV station broadcast an audiotape purportedly made by Osama bin Laden. ...*sigh*, this is getting very uneasy, more so than ever. The threats and terror chatting is getting stronger every day and, as I suspected all along, Osama bin Laden is alive. If they do anything else here, may God not have mercy on their souls after we are through with them, I hope. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted November 17, 2002 Here is some more you might find read-worthy, please comment... LONDON, England (CNN) -- A new statement purported to be from the terrorist network al Qaeda warns the United States to "stop your support for Israel against the Palestinians, for Russians against the Chechens and leave us alone, or expect us in Washington and New York." "Do not force us to ship you in coffins," it says. Chief investigative correspondent Yosri Fouda, for the Qatar-based Al-Jazeera satellite television station told CNN he received the document "through previously tested channels" and believes it to be authentic. CNN had no way to verify the authenticity of the statement. Fouda says the document appears to be an attempt by al Qaeda to explain its intentions and demands, and it warns what will happen if those demands are not answered. "They are posing two questions in their words and I quote: 'Why are we in jihad and why are we resisting you?' and secondly, 'To what are we inviting you and what do we want from you?'" Fouda quoted the document as justifying its enmity with Israel and the United States, and mentions Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and President Bush by name. "If Sharon and Bush are men of peace, we are also men of peace," Fouda translated from the Arabic document. There was no immediate comment on the statement from the White House or other U.S. officials. Fouda noted that al Qaeda had previously placed the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Saudi Arabia and other Gulf "holy lands" as the group's first priority. But now, he said, the Palestinian issue is its first priority. Chechnya, Kashmir, the Philippines and the Iraqi government are also issues raised in the letter, Fouda said, which ends with a call for the American people to convert to Islam. On Iraq, the document states: "You are placing Muslims under siege in Iraq where children die every day. Oh how weird that you don't care for 1.5 million Iraqi children who died under siege. But when 3,000 of your compatriots died, the whole world was shaken." The statement comes just days after Al-Jazeera broadcast an audiotaped statement said to have been made by al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden. In it, the speaker praises terror attacks in Yemen, Kuwait, Bali and Moscow as a response "to how the Muslims have been treated" and warns U.S. allies, "Just like you kill us, we will kill you." Ahmed Mwaffac Zeidan, Al-Jazeera's Islamabad bureau chief, said in his column Wednesday in Al-Hayat, a London-based Arabic language newspaper, that he obtained the tape in Pakistan. Intelligence analysts are still working to authenticate the tape. "Yes, it is his voice," a U.S. State Department official said Wednesday morning. "But we don't know yet whether anybody put it together, spliced, or computer-generated" it. (More on voice analysis) The tape also characterizes the Bush administration as "the biggest murderers of the century." "Bush, the pharaoh of the century, is killing our children in Iraq and Israel, an American ally, is bombing homes with elderly women and children inside using American planes in Palestine. This is enough for the wise of your leaders to stay away from this band of terror," the statement says. It is not known when the tape was recorded, but it refers to events as recent as October. The tape has not convinced the administration that bin Laden is alive, another official said. "This does not change the administration's position that, short of having Osama bin Laden in our possession, we do not know if he is dead or alive," said a senior Bush administration official. ...strong words, and I hope our reaction will be stronger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted November 17, 2002 Well I guess I'll be converting to Islam when our Slave Masters tell me I'm converting to Islam. But can you convert if you don't believe in a Religion in the first place? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted November 17, 2002 Do they actually think the U.S. is afraid of these people. Getting Bin Laden would be great, but if we pin him down somewhere were he can't run operations, and slowly and surely arrest and kill top Al Qaeda officials, Bin Laden and his lackey will be killed or captured. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Breetai Report post Posted November 17, 2002 You are placing Muslims under siege in Iraq where children die every day. Oh how weird that you don't care for 1.5 million Iraqi children who died under siege. But when 3,000 of your compatriots died, the whole world was shaken." An excellent point that no-one in the US government seems to want to consider. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BaldFish Report post Posted November 17, 2002 Well I guess I'll be converting to Islam when our Slave Masters tell me I'm converting to Islam. But can you convert if you don't believe in a Religion in the first place? You fake it, the same way I pretend to be a Christian in job interviews. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mad Dog Report post Posted November 17, 2002 " You are placing Muslims under siege in Iraq where children die every day. Oh how weird that you don't care for 1.5 million Iraqi children who died under siege. But when 3,000 of your compatriots died, the whole world was shaken." An excellent point that no-one in the US government seems to want to consider" Why are we supposed to care about people that are killed by their own government not giving them any food or medical relief. And our own countrymen will always be more important to our own government instead of another nations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evenflowDDT Report post Posted November 17, 2002 Why are we supposed to care about people that are killed by their own government not giving them any food or medical relief. And our own countrymen will always be more important to our own government instead of another nations. Ummm... the children didn't get any foreign aid because of sanctions placed on them by the U.S. The only thing I don't understand in this whole ordeal is why Al Qaeda and whatnot are supporting Chechnya all of a sudden. I guess they're that desperate that they'll take any terrorists they can get? This whole thing is such a joke now, from all sides. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest J*ingus Report post Posted November 17, 2002 Food and medicine ARE allowed to pass through without sanctions. Quit spreading that misconception. And Saddam has built, what, half a dozen huge opulent palaces in the past decade? Also, 1.5 mil sounds just a bit high, where'd that number come from? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EricMM Report post Posted November 18, 2002 He did build a lot of palaces and build a lot of weapons instead of providing food. Wheres the refuting that? There is none! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mad Dog Report post Posted November 18, 2002 Seriously one just has to look at the Iraq military to see where all the money in that country goes. It's just ignorant to blame the U.S. for the deaths of the citizens when it's obvious that Iraq has money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2002 Doesn't Iraq just make assumptions on numbers of dead children by taking the number of children that should have been born and subtracting the number of living children to make their death count? Still.. there is some freaky graphic shit if you ever see any Iraqi children born around areas where Depleted Uranium was used by the US Military. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted November 18, 2002 What is with people blaming the U.S. for all the death of Iraqi's. It appears Iraq, and know Al Qaeda can say bold face lies, and these Blame America people jump on it likes it's Gospel. Go ahead and protest. Just remember that you're more inclined to believe Saddam Hussein than George W. Bush. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted November 18, 2002 Me convert to Islam? Sorry arabs, I'm not grasping on to any ethos. Especially one I'm not very familiar with. See, if everyone were an atheist, we wouldn't be in this mess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Hamburglar Report post Posted November 18, 2002 Bwahahahaha, supporting the Chechens is not a good idea for Al-Quaeda. If Islamic fundamentalists continue to spread their hate to too many targets the Middle East will be in for a pretty nasty surprise. Al-Quaeda are best advised to focus on America, as America's position in the world and generally non-militant attitudes to foreign expansion mean that they won't do anything drastic. On Al-Quaeda's current course they are setting up for the Russians to have an excuse to march in and nick all Middle Eastern oil. Hell, apparently the Chinese have problems with Islamic fundamentalism as well. On another note, have you Americans heard of the terrorist plot to unleash cyanide gas on the London Underground here in Britain? It was averted, but still, pretty nasty stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeinSC Report post Posted November 19, 2002 You are placing Muslims under siege in Iraq where children die every day. Oh how weird that you don't care for 1.5 million Iraqi children who died under siege. But when 3,000 of your compatriots died, the whole world was shaken." An excellent point that no-one in the US government seems to want to consider. >>> Well, there is ONE small difference: Hussein is starving his people. We didn't really do anything to warrant 9/11. Nice try with the moral relativism, though. -=Mike ...OK, it was a pretty sad attempt, honestly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites