Guest NoCalMike Report post Posted November 21, 2002 On December 5th ESPN's "outside the lines" is doing a story about the UFC, namely the Shamrock/Ortiz fight. I was watching Around the horn last night and the host was repeatidly trying to put over the UFC/Pride/MMA as good shit, but the other sportswriters who admit to not have seeing any of it, didn't want any part of it. Half the panel seemed to not understand it was real, and the other half barely knew what it was. Personally I have never understood how the mainstream writers embrace boxing as an art and how it is so great when it is probobaly the most corrupt sport out there, yet when it comes to MMA suddenly it is trash and does not deserve attention even though it is just a different fighting style than boxing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted November 21, 2002 I was angry that they compared Tough Man to UFC! It looks like they have not seen the recent UFC fights, they probably still have Tank Abbot in their collective minds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NoCalMike Report post Posted November 21, 2002 I was angry that they compared Tough Man to UFC! It looks like they have not seen the recent UFC fights, they probably still have Tank Abbot in their collective minds. ye, I forgot about that incredibly STUPID comparison. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted November 21, 2002 the few shows that they put on Fox Sports had great fighters, like Matt Sierra and Frank Mir. At least Max Kellerman who was on the ESPN2 boxing show, tried to give UFC a good arguement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Angle-plex Report post Posted November 21, 2002 The panel was a bunch of old guys. When I turned the show on I knew that they where going to trash MMA. One of the guys said that UFC isn't a sport because it's inside of a cage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest hardyz1 Report post Posted November 25, 2002 The dipshit Bob Ryan even claimed it wasn't real fighting. He said something like, "If these guys are so tough, why don't they fight for real?" Retard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Incandenza Report post Posted November 25, 2002 I don't think the way they promoted Ortiz-Shamrock is going to help the UFC any in terms of mainstream respect; the build it was given was straight out of the WWF. I don't hold it against Zuffa for trying to get more people to watch, but trying to be viewed as a legit sport from the sports media may be a lost cause. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted November 25, 2002 Fox Sports needs to bring back the UFC show or move it to FX to get the public excited about the PPVs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted November 26, 2002 Screw those guys. This is better than boxing (unless we're talking about an incredible fight like Ward vs. Gatti I). Vendetta got me into MMA big and I just finished watching the Ultimate Ultimate 96 that I rented from Blockbuster. What a show. There were 3 incredible fights on there. Oh well...after RAW I'm gonna pop in my new Pride DVDs and laugh at these ESPN idiots Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Angle-plex Report post Posted November 26, 2002 BPS, rent UFC 22, just to see Frank Shamrock beat Tito Ortiz. It's good for a laugh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted November 26, 2002 I'll have to find that one. The Blockbuster closest to me has nothing recent at all.By recent I mean post 1997. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Army Eye Report post Posted November 26, 2002 Which Prides did you order? My personal favorites are 10 and 19. Not sure if 19 is out on DVD yet though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted November 26, 2002 I picked up 10 (on tape, they didn't have the DVD) and um...Clash of the Titans...whichever # that is. The one with Fujita vs. Takayama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lei Tong Report post Posted November 26, 2002 That's a pretty good one, although Silva/ Oyama is stopped a bit early, while you'll be scratching your head over Herring/ Belfort. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Army Eye Report post Posted November 26, 2002 And 10's got the all-time head scratcher (the end anyway). Shamrock vs. Fujita. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Angle-plex Report post Posted November 26, 2002 I have Return of the Warrors, Cold Fury, Championship Chaos, and Collision Course on DVD, then I have Pride 19 on VHS. All of them were worth the money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Incandenza Report post Posted November 26, 2002 I have Pride 14 on DVD. It features an incredibly boring Lidell-Mezger match, and a very entertaining--and somewhat bizarre--Daijiro Matsui-Pele match. What was so strange was that Matsui actually threw a fucking dropkick, TWICE. A dropkick in a shoot fight, folks. By the way, he completely wiffed the first one, and grazed Pele a little (very little) on the second one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lei Tong Report post Posted December 4, 2002 Heads up. Day after tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Phoenix Fury Legdrop Report post Posted December 6, 2002 Ed O'Neill doing Brazillian Ju-Jitsu at the Gracies' Dojo = Greatest. Segment. Ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CED Ordonez Report post Posted December 6, 2002 The dipshit Bob Ryan even claimed it wasn't real fighting. He said something like, "If these guys are so tough, why don't they fight for real?" Retard. Throw him into a spar with the likes of Vanderlei Silva. See if he lasts 10 seconds without crying like a little bitch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted December 6, 2002 The underground Fight Clubs would make Tyler Durden proud Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted December 21, 2002 10 has my favorite spots ever in a fight, with Sakuraba doing the cartwheel to avoid Gracie's kicks and the ending after the announcer says that Sakuraba's only beat people in his gym with the kimura. Seeing Helio in that segment was awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
