Now that Brock is no longer "WWE Champion..."

[Guest AndrewTS]

Now...I know that the writers are fucktards who can't even maintain an illusion of seperate brands let alone write coherent storylines (Jim Ross on SD, shilling the 10th anniversary of Raw on SD, etc), but many of you may recall that the only reason Brock became SD! exclusive is that Steph paid him a shitload of money.

 

And even though Show is managed Paul like Brock was, I'm pretty sure it was just for Brock.

 

Does this mean they'll likely go with a crossing-over storyline soon, since Show would be allowed to go to Raw if he so chose? Or will they simply not mention it and it'll be forgotten if Brock wins the title right back at the next PPV (no rematch--yeah, right)?

[Guest My Eyebrow is on fire]

was wondering that myself - my bet is on the writers will ignore it

[Guest The Flying Dutchman]

WWE's also been trying to say that the WWE Women's Championship is RAW exclusive, but they're full of shit.

[Guest Brian]

Well, Show was traded to the SamckDown brand so his contract is their property, unlike Lesnar who was part of the figurehead company and signed to a division of said company.

[Guest oldschoolwrestling]

You could have stopped after you said you knew the writers are fucktards

[Guest CanadianChris]

Let me get this straight...someone WANTS Big Slow on both shows??

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

I'm still reeling from SurSer, and the WCW Big Gold Belt actually being HIGHER on the card than the WWE's title.

 

I think that's a first, isn't it?

 

Let me get around that, and then I can see if I can stomach Big Slow twice on my TV each week.

[Guest AndrewTS]

Well, Show was traded to the SamckDown brand so his contract is their property, unlike Lesnar who was part of the figurehead company and signed to a division of said company.

Yeah, but technically whoever is still undispusted champion should have the right to go to both shows as long as he has the title.

 

And while I don't want it to be Show...they're going to end the roster split likely anyway and that would be a big first step. Think of this scenario: a new champion, maybe an Angle or a Benoit shows up on Raw with their new title after a PPV, saying that he's the undisputed champion, and the Raw champ is a phony with a worthless belt. And now that he's the Undisputed Champion, he'll carry on the travelling to both shows bit.

 

Raw champ comes out, brief verbal confrontation, and we have a unification match set up for the next PPV.

 

I don't like the thought of the same main eventers sucking up twice the TV time in one week, but it would be much more logical than what they likely will do.

 

That is, go with a Deus Ex Machina like Bisch doing something really really really offensive, then Vince stomps in the next week, decks Bisch, "Yeeeeeeeeeeer fiiiiiiiiiiiiired," and declares his little girl the GM of both shows, and then declares a champ vs. champ match.

[Guest AndrewTS]

WWE's also been trying to say that the WWE Women's Championship is RAW exclusive, but they're full of shit.

Yeah...would it have killed them to take a minute or so to actually explain why they've suddenly done that on the air?

[Guest Smell the ratings!!!]

WWE's also been trying to say that the WWE Women's Championship is RAW exclusive

the who?

 

I think it's safe to say the "writers are fucktards" argument provides an all encompasing logic umbrella that provides an explanation for every thing that happens on WWE tv. Ever.

[Guest AndrewTS]

WWE's also been trying to say that the WWE Women's Championship is RAW exclusive

the who?

 

I think it's safe to say the "writers are fucktards" argument provides an all encompasing logic umbrella that provides an explanation for every thing that happens on WWE tv. Ever.

Outside of Heyman, I'd say that's more of a consistently proven fact than an argument.

[Guest mach7]

I'm still reeling from SurSer, and the WCW Big Gold Belt actually being HIGHER on the card than the WWE's title.

 

I think that's a first, isn't it?

No. Vengeance 2001 (aka Armageddon 2001) where the titles were unified...

 

-WWE Champion Steve Austin defeated Kurt Angle

 

-Chris Jericho defeated World Champion The Rock to capture the title

 

-World Champion Chris Jericho defeated WWE Champion Steve Austin to become Undisputed Champion

 

Technically the WCW belt was higher on the card since the WWE title was defended first...

[Guest razazteca]

but HHH being handed the WCW belt destroyed that illusion

 

there was no actual reason given why the WCW belt resurfaced on Raw, other than Easy E favoring HHH as his champion.

[Guest eiker_ir]

I'm still reeling from SurSer, and the WCW Big Gold Belt actually being HIGHER on the card than the WWE's title.

 

I think that's a first, isn't it?

No. Vengeance 2001 (aka Armageddon 2001) where the titles were unified...

 

-WWE Champion Steve Austin defeated Kurt Angle

 

-Chris Jericho defeated World Champion The Rock to capture the title

 

-World Champion Chris Jericho defeated WWE Champion Steve Austin to become Undisputed Champion

 

Technically the WCW belt was higher on the card since the WWE title was defended first...

 

 

SummerSlam 2001

 

Main Event: Booker T vs. Rock - WCW Championship

 

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

SummerSlam 2001

 

Main Event: Booker T vs. Rock - WCW Championship

 

But was the WWF Title defended on that show?

[Guest dreamer420]

Austin vs. Angle in a classic.

 

Obviously Vince was going to give Rocky the main event though.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

I would have thought that Rock vs. Book was the main event if for no other reason than that match actually had a finish, unlike the WWF title match.

[Guest evenflowDDT]

...but many of you may recall that the only reason Brock became SD! exclusive is that Steph paid him a shitload of money.

For all the obscure details I do remember, I actually did forget this one, and since it really didn't play into storylines after that at all (Bischoff trying to re-bribe Brock with even MORE money, etc.) I doubt it'd be brought up again.

 

Besides, do you REALLY want to see HBK as a unified champion after Show as "WWE Champion" goes over to RAW and challenges him?

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Besides, do you REALLY want to see HBK as a unified champion after Show as "WWE Champion" goes over to RAW and challenges him?

I'd rather him than Big Show or Cripster.

[JasonX 0]

Now...I know that the writers are fucktards who can't even maintain an illusion of seperate brands let alone write coherent storylines (Jim Ross on SD, shilling the 10th anniversary of Raw on SD, etc), but many of you may recall that the only reason Brock became SD! exclusive is that Steph paid him a shitload of money.

 

And even though Show is managed Paul like Brock was, I'm pretty sure it was just for Brock.  

 

Does this mean they'll likely go with a crossing-over storyline soon, since Show would be allowed to go to Raw if he so chose?  Or will they simply not mention it and it'll be forgotten if Brock wins the title right back at the next PPV (no rematch--yeah, right)?

Storyline explination:

 

Paul Heyman has some sort of under the table deal to keep Big Show or any other wrestler he manages on SD now that he has the belt. And Steph probably has it put in or secretly rewrote every single SD wrestler's contract to make it so that if by some chance they win the belt, they can't defend it outside SD.

 

Real Life Explaination:

 

The whole "Paying Brock the Undisputed Champ to stay SD exclusive" angle was created simply to move Brock to SD with the belt while raising the IC Title's status as "The" singles title on Raw. This plan fell apart though when HHH refused the IC belt and demanded that he be given a belt on the same level as Brock's (cause HHH could never let himself be put below Brock in the pecking order). Hence the return of the Big Gold WCW Belt and the stripping of Brock of the title of "Undisputed World Champion" and having him simply be the WWF Champion.

 

And since WWF is still stupidly continuing the split as opposed to aborting it like the mistake it was in the first place, they are ignoring this plot twist ala the "Test can't be fired" angle from last year...

[Guest Ravenbomb]

uh...Big Show's big...

</WWF>

[ChrisMWaters 0]

I seriously hope that soon they get the single champion for both shows back.

 

I enjoyed having the floating top titleholder better than this two belts for one show crap.

 

They should have done it with the tag titles in the first place as well.

[Guest jester]

Does this mean they'll likely go with a crossing-over storyline soon, since Show would be allowed to go to Raw if he so chose?

This would require them to remember something that happened a few months ago. We're luck if they can be consistent show to show.

 

Boy, good thing they completely redid the entire championship belt picture for this extremely well thought and brilliant angle.

[Guest Brian]

So it's not really undisputed anymore is it?