Guest ManKinnd Report post Posted November 23, 2002 Now at first viewing of both these matches, and I'm referring to the Eddy/Edge SD No DQ match and the "best match ever" Kawada/Misawa from 94, I thought of these matches as nothing special. On second, third, and even a fourth viewing (and with a little help from the smarks), I finally see it. Now, this is, of course, just my interpritation, but that's what wrestling's all about, right? OK, in the beginnings of both of these matches there are two very good wrestlers out there that go out to wrestle the other. In Eddy/Edge, there was neck work from Eddy and some arm work from Edge. In Misawa/Kawada, Kawada worked the arm and Misawa worked the leg. Now around the halfway point in both matches, it seemed both workers just thought "You know what, I really hate this guy. How bout I just beat the shit out of him." It was clear in Eddy/Edge; they brought out a friggin' ladder and destroyed each other with it. In Kawada/Misawa, you saw Kawada give up on the arm work; you could see it in his face. He immediately went after the neck, suplexing and chopping Misawa. Then Misawa came back and said "Well I can drop you on your head too." And both matches rocked. Now I see it. Thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted November 23, 2002 uhh, I don't get it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ManKinnd Report post Posted November 23, 2002 In both matches, both workers gave up on the traditional wrestling "element" of the match, what with working a body part and using smart moves. They decided, instead, to do their best to kill each other. Anyone else see what I'm saying? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 23, 2002 Uhm, I don't know thse Japanese guys, but I'm sure they don't yell "dork" and go for the spear 8 times a match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Black Tiger Report post Posted November 23, 2002 I see your point, but Misawa vs. Kawada was about Kawada finally getting the big win and showing he was better than Misawa. Edge vs. Guerrero was about Edge getting revenge from a concussion and a cheap chairshot a week before. But both matches kick serious amounts of ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CanadianChick Report post Posted November 23, 2002 AS, what does that have to do with the actual match? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 23, 2002 AS, what does that have to do with the actual match? I don't know. I didn't see the match. I was pissed over you know what, and as hard as I tried, I couldn't force myself to sit down and watch it. (Because I knew in advance it would be good) I was just very disinterested in the show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted November 23, 2002 Uhm, I don't know thse Japanese guys, but I'm sure they don't yell "dork" and go for the spear 8 times a match. Worst post ever? Has no point? CHECK Spelling error? CHECK Cannot say it out loud without sounding retarded? CHECK Bitter and predictable? CHECK Basically there to help boost an already inflated post count? CHECK YOU be the judge! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 23, 2002 It had a point, buried deep down there. Basically, the match shouldn't be compared to something being toted as the best ever, especially since it wasn't the best of that week. And I found it funny that Edge was being compared to the two Japanese guys I hear the best things about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted November 23, 2002 It had a point, buried deep down there. Basically, the match shouldn't be compared to something being toted as the best ever, especially since it wasn't the best of that week. And I found it funny that Edge was being compared to the two Japanese guys I hear the best things about. I was just kidding. I saw your point. it was just a *really bad* post. I should know, I've had a shitload of em. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ravenbomb Report post Posted November 23, 2002 I triple Dog Dare ya to post this in the puro folder, Mankinnd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godthedog Report post Posted November 23, 2002 It had a point, buried deep down there. Basically, the match shouldn't be compared to something being toted as the best ever, especially since it wasn't the best of that week. this coming just after you admitted to never even seeing the match? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted November 23, 2002 I triple Dog Dare ya to post this in the puro folder, Mankinnd Mannkind, if you do that. AS and I will personally defend you. (Begs AS to agree) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 23, 2002 I triple Dog Dare ya to post this in the puro folder, Mankinnd Mannkind, if you do that. AS and I will personally defend you. (Begs AS to agree) Those Puro Guys are scary. And I'm never one to get into confrontations. What? Stop laughing. Damnit! I said stop! Oh by the way, sure, I'll help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 23, 2002 It had a point, buried deep down there. Basically, the match shouldn't be compared to something being toted as the best ever, especially since it wasn't the best of that week. this coming just after you admitted to never even seeing the match? I can't see anything with a commercial break comparing to Eddy/Edge and Angle/Benoit at the PPV. Hell, I can't see much at all comparing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted November 23, 2002 I triple Dog Dare ya to post this in the puro folder, Mankinnd Mannkind, if you do that. AS and I will personally defend you. (Begs AS to agree) Those Puro Guys are scary. And I'm never one to get into confrontations. What? Stop laughing. Damnit! I said stop! Oh by the way, sure, I'll help. Read th thread where I tease one guy about saying that a Joshi star helped him unstand the ironies and weaknesses living within all of us. He was too pitiful to be TOLD~! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest HartFan86 Report post Posted November 23, 2002 I'd go in Puro.... ....nevermind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted November 23, 2002 ManKinnd, you have Zsasz, and AS the MEGA-POWERS, and you have HeartFan, the Dynamite Kid of TSM. Do you have the testicular fortitude? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CanadianChick Report post Posted November 23, 2002 Do I have to know anything about Puro to go? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted November 23, 2002 Do I have to know anything about Puro to go? Do you like to piss off pompous assholes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CanadianChick Report post Posted November 23, 2002 Its my favorite pastime! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted November 23, 2002 Its my favorite pastime! Okay, you got Miss Elizabeth too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CanadianChick Report post Posted November 23, 2002 Wohoo! I'm a VALET~! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ravenbomb Report post Posted November 23, 2002 ooh! Who am I? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted November 23, 2002 ooh! Who am I? Hmmmm, an ally of Hogan and Savage: Choose: a) Hillbilly Jim b) Ultimate Warrior c) Ricky Steamboat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Black Tiger Report post Posted November 23, 2002 Those Puro guys are scary? Why are we so scary? Just because a couple of guys who post there are assholes? If you post this in the puroresu folder I figure that. A. The usual crop of assholes like Jubuki will flame the hell out of you. B. A few posters will not so much flame you as they will dismantle your argument. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ravenbomb Report post Posted November 23, 2002 hmm, that's a tough one between B and C. Do I want to be the total psycho freak or one of the best wrestlers ever? This be a delima...I'll be The Ultimate Warrior, what with the no-selling and all. And, now, in this epoch of variance and discord, I shall bring ALL of my WOAH-YAAAAAAAAAAAAAHS!!! *Runs around and shakes ropes* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 23, 2002 :: The sexual chemistry continues with macho Sault and Miss Chicklizabeth. Or not.:: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted November 23, 2002 Those Puro guys are scary? Why are we so scary? Just because a couple of guys who post there are assholes? If you post this in the puroresu folder I figure that. A. The usual crop of assholes like Jubuki will flame the hell out of you. B. A few posters will not so much flame you as they will dismantle your argument. Were those guys born lacking a sense of humor? Just go in and say Mark Calloway was a better power wrestler than Stan Hansen, now that's asking for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ravenbomb Report post Posted November 23, 2002 :: The sexual chemistry continues with macho Sault and Miss Chicklizabeth. Or not.:: You stole my Slim-Jim endorsement deal, you elbow dropping inconsequentiality! *Shakes ropes* Bite into a Slender-James, my Whoa-Yas! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
