The No 1 game console to get now?

[LaParkaYourCar 0]

read the post above you redbaron

[Guest HoffmanHHH]

Actually, in both the US and Europe Xbox is out selling Gamecube. The only area of the world that Gamecube is in second place is Japan, which would be the only country where those figures are even close to being representitive of national trends. Plus, Xbox 2 is a lock for 2004/2005. If you're trying to persuade someone to not get an Xbox then use the fact that there is a lack of top of the line exclusives rather than posting misleading figures from one store.

Way to be presumptuous. I'm not trying to convince anyone of what to buy, just putting up figures that I was told were indicative of a national trend. I appreciate you putting up more current info, but thanks for just assuming my motives.

[Guest DawnBTVS]

X-Box doesn't have a lot of "exclusives" but some of their games are good(Halo, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Metal Gear Solid 2, Morrowind, World Series Baseball, Mech Assault, Steel Battalion, Ghost Recon, Unreal Championship, Project Gotham Racing, Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell, etc.)

[Guest The Notorious CRD]

For me, personally, it's a dead heat between the PlayStation 2 and Gamecube.

 

On the PlayStation 2 side I've been playing GTAV: Vice City, Smackdown SYM, and X-Men: Next Dimension consistently.

 

Over on the Gamecube, Animal Crossing (soooo addictive) and Mario Party 4 have been dominating a lot of my time. Plus I can't wait to get my hands on Metroid Prime.

 

The last game I bought for my Xbox was Dead To Rights, although I do want to get on Xbox Live and play some MechAssault. Splinter Cell looks good too.

 

So yeah, I'd go with...

 

1. PlayStation 2

2. Gamecube

3. Xbox

[Guest MarvinisaLunatic]

As far as what Games are coming out after christmas, it pretty much can be summed with one simple word: Zelda.

 

The new Zelda game will easily be the most ground breaking game, graphics and gameplay wise. There is NO ONE that can say that it won't be the best game out for the Gamecube, if not any of the other consoles to date.

 

 

Plus, Resident Evil 2 and 3 are out on January 7th, the new 1080 Snowboarding game is due sometime before spring. But honestly, between Metroid, Mario Sunshine, Zelda, The Sonic Mega Pack and Timesplitters 2 (games Im planning on trying to get in the next few months..) I don't really thing I need any other games until maybe summer..

 

As for consoles:

 

1 - Playstation 2 for its library of games, backwards compatibility with the PS 1, decent DVD playback and overall good system performance. Don't know much about the online capabilities..

 

2 - Gamecube for its solid franchise game core that are always consistently good games, more mature themed games, but still a rather small library of games even compared to the X Box which launched at the same time as the cube, and no DVD playback. Online capabilites are sketchy (you can get online now if you play PSO 1 + 2, but no other games have online capabilities) but it does support Broadband and regular modems.

 

3 - X Box for its relatively large library of games (although there are very few exclusive games with most of them available on the other consoles/PC),It has the superior hardware, the best DVD playback and tprobably the best online setup (even though its broadband only which screws about 3/4s of the population of the US). There is no real standout game aside from Halo which is sad considering the console has been out a year.

 

I think that pretty much sums up everything about the 3 consoles...eveyone pretty much knows Im a Gamecube fanboy, but mainly because I know I can count on around 5 or so awesome must have games a year from Nintendo, and I usually cannot afford to purchase more than that number of games over a given year. Granted the first year for the Gamecube was a bit rough, but in my eyes its looking a lot better.

[Guest MarvinisaLunatic]

Oh, and if you didn't think Zelda was going to be a fucking HUGE game for Big N, read this:

 

http://www.planetgamecube.com/news.cfm?act...on=item&id=3679

 

While its still a rumor for US release, some people are going as far as to say that Nintendo of America will release some form of that bundle with Preorders in America, or there will be a ton of pissed of Zelda fans..not something I think Nintendo will do, so I think it will get released. Just in case you don't read the link -

 

In Japan, the first 100,000 to preorder the new Zelda game for the Gamecube recieve a compilation disc that contains The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (from the N64), the never before released Ura-Zelda (An never released addon for OoT for the failed add on drive), and information and/or videos of F-Zero GC and Biohazard (Resident Evil) 4.

[Guest KoR Fungus]

It will be interesting to see if the average American gamer is going to be willing to give Zelda a chance despite its cartoony look. I'm sure Zelda will be big, but I'm not sure it's going to be as big as SMS or MP. Now, MP on the other hand is pretty much a surefire megahit, especially since it's getting unbelievable reviews from everyone. I think MP is probably going to be the game that puts the Gamecube ahead of the X-Box for good.

 

As for consoles:

 

1. PS2 - It has the most games, the most great games and the most balanced library across all the genres. Definitely a system that every gamer should own.

2. Gamecube - It has a good number of AAA exclusives, with more to come. Mario, Metroid and Zelda alone justify a purchase.

3. X-Box - I'm still not seeing much there. Splinter Cell is about it this Christmas, and there's not much on the horizon until Halo 2.

[Guest TheHulkster]

Each system is worth your hard earned $$$ in their own way. PS2 will always have a steady flow of games, Nintendo is Nintendo and will always have those great 1st party games, and the Xbox has had a really good fall and looks to have a really good 2003 with a lot of big games (Halo 2, Doom 3 (maybe in 2004), Perfect Dark (Maybe in 2004), Brute Force, Ninja Gaiden, Fable, Kameo, Panzer Dragoon Orta, all those Xbox live games).

[Guest Slapnuts00]

PS2 is the best value. Just on the fact that it doubles as a DVD player! Gamecube can't claim that. Xbox can, but as established there are hardly any games of interest on Xbox. Unless your a fan of cartoony, anime Mario type stuff (not meant as an insult, its the best way I can describe that style) than Gamecube is kinda useless. Especially if you had a PS1, you can still play all your old games on PS2. So to recap we have the best selection of games by far, DVD player, backwards compatable with PS1 games and online capabilities. And a recent price drop.

[Guest EQ]

In Japan, the first 100,000 to preorder the new Zelda game for the Gamecube recieve a compilation disc that contains The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (from the N64), the never before released Ura-Zelda (An never released addon for OoT for the failed add on drive), and information and/or videos of F-Zero GC and Biohazard (Resident Evil) 4.

I will be very, VERY surprised if Nintendo does this for the US. Also, seeing as how the Japanese are getting it, I'm going to be pissed that it won't come out here.

 

OoT on the cube? Even if the graphics are the same, that's still a hell of a collector's item.

 

Ura-Zelda? HOLY SHIT! That would kick so much ass!

 

So of course, it's not coming to the US

 

...

 

I hate to be so pesemistic, but if I've learned anything throughout my pretty active gaming career, it's this: never get your hopes up

[Guest Lethargic]

I haven't read the entire thread so I don't know if anybody has mentioned this, but the original post seemed to be asking more about which system to buy judging by which system will be fazed out for the next system, PS3, XBox2, whatever. And I'd say if you're worried about that you shouldn't be because quite frankly it always happen pretty much at the same time. Once one turns over, the next company will do it in a few months and then the other one. So I'd say it's pretty much the same with every company.

 

But besides that get an Xbox. It has good games. Just because they're not big names doesn't mean a thing. They're fun, that's all that matters. And anybody that claims that Xbox doesn't have games of interest or doesn't have anything but Halo obviously hasn't played Xbox much, Sony or Nintendo lemmings that will never give it's fair shot or Microsoft bashers. There are so many games out now that I'm dying for that I can't stand it and there are about 5 coming out between now and the end of the year that I want and know I'll never be able to get them all. Splinter Cell alone has me scroching my shorts. The reviews are incredible so far. I believe it got the highest rating for any game ever on any system ever from Gamespot or maybe it was some other site. I don't know they all start with GAME. I've never had a system that has such a consistently high level of quality over all it's games than this one. Other systems had games that were as good as the Xbox games or better but those were few and far, the rest were OK, average, bland or horrible. In the year that I've had my Xbox I have not played ONE game that I didn't love. It's almost gotten to the point where I'd like to find one I hate so I'd have something to bitch about and quit kissing it's ass.

[Guest MarvinisaLunatic]

Nintendo has said that they plan to stick with the Gamecube for a while and have no plans on making another system any time soon. Whereas the PS3 and XBox 2 are already in early stages of development for possible releases in late 2004-2005.

[Guest converge241]

PS2

 

easily

 

just look at the sales Xbox is at like 5 mil

GC at 5.5

 

PS2 is coming close to 40 million or something like that

[Guest EQ]

But PS2 was out over a year before those two systems came out.

 

That needs to be taken into account too. Many people only buy one system, and since PS2 was out so much sooner, many of them probably got a PS2 and didn't get even consider GC or XBOX.

[Guest converge241]

havent the xbox and GC been out for a year now?? thats a bad ratio even taking out that whole first year of sales..i think they did like 16 million this year

 

so PS2 is better AND they didnt have to take as long to put it out..thanks for confirming its dominance

[Guest EQ]

I don't think it proves that PS2 is better, maybe it proves some sort of dominance, but as far as which system is better, those are just numbers

[Guest KoR Fungus]

<<<But PS2 was out over a year before those two systems came out.

 

That needs to be taken into account too. Many people only buy one system, and since PS2 was out so much sooner, many of them probably got a PS2 and didn't get even consider GC or XBOX.>>>

 

Eh it's long past the time where anyone should be making excuses for Sony's sales lead. That argument would have held a lot more weight if DC hadn't proven it to be completely false. DC had a year lead, PS2 passed it in total sales within three months. SNES also beat Genesis despite coming out two years later. PS1 killed Saturn despite coming out four months later. There is no correlation between launching first and winning the sales war for a generation.

 

If X-Box and NGC were to ever have any serious chance of catching up with PS2, they would have needed to be matching the numbers that PS2 was selling during it's first year. They're not even close. PS2 sold about 20 million systems during their first year, at a $299 price point. NGC and X-Box are still only around half that, despite lower prices.

 

You're right that sales don't determine system quality, but they certainly help. When one system's installed base is twice the combined installed base of its competition, it's going to be the system of choice for third parties, and that will in turn lead to better games. In every generation, the market leader has always had the best library (NES, SNES, PS1).

[Guest EQ]

I see your point about the DC, but I think the videogame market has changed since the days of SNES and Genesis.

 

I think what does it for Sony is that they have a shitload of games. Whether they have better games or not, they still have so many that of course they're going to outsell GC and XBOX for now. In the end, I still think PS2 is going to end up making more money than XBOX and GC, but my problem with the original post that spawned this specific area of this discussion was that he implied that since PS2 was making so much more than GC or XBOX, that meant that it was the system to buy.

[Guest redbaron51]

um...converage....

 

that has to be sales in NA...right.