Guest Junah98 Report post Posted November 28, 2002 I think we're losing sight of what's truly important here: the Pringles. I believe that the pringle issue has been discussed enough, but if you want some more info, don't hesitate to ask the CPUSA.org for a fact sheet for their policy on pringles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Incandenza Report post Posted November 28, 2002 I just emailed them at the address shown on that website. Here's what I wrote: I was on a online message board, and in a stimulating thread about communism, I read this: "If you're being serious, then I can tell you now that in a communist society everyone will get their fair share of pringles." Is this true? I really like Pringles, and am a fan of the elimination of the class system. I feel that the Communist party may lead me to the path of righteousness. I also discovered that there was a chapter of the party in my very own town. I should try getting in touch with them, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted November 28, 2002 Since is thread is already a shit hole... who's that in your sig, Inc.? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Incandenza Report post Posted November 28, 2002 Flyboy--That's Captain Beefheart. Look him up at allmusic.com. Further information can be found at this site, the best fan site dedicated to him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Junah98 Report post Posted November 28, 2002 Since is thread is already a shit hole... who's that in your sig, Inc.? You're understanding of communist society gets better once you grow pubic hair. Don't worry son, it'll come. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted November 28, 2002 *rolls eyes* I did past by the school house, you know, so would you like to point out a successful communist society? Oh, and pubic hair... I have enough of that for you to choke on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Big McLargeHuge Report post Posted November 28, 2002 Oh, and pubic hair... I have enough of that for you to choke on. That was disturbing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Junah98 Report post Posted November 28, 2002 *rolls eyes* I did past by the school house, you know, so would you like to point out a successful communist society? Oh, and pubic hair... I have enough of that for you to choke on. Just like the capitilist pig, you've decided to take the pubic hair for yourself and leave the working class with nothing. For shame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrRant Report post Posted November 28, 2002 *rolls eyes* I did past by the school house, you know, so would you like to point out a successful communist society? Oh, and pubic hair... I have enough of that for you to choke on. Just like the capitilist pig, you've decided to take the pubic hair for yourself and leave the working class with nothing. For shame. So capitalists have bigger dicks then the Commies? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DARRYLXWF Report post Posted November 28, 2002 *rolls eyes* I did past by the school house, you know, so would you like to point out a successful communist society? Oh, and pubic hair... I have enough of that for you to choke on. Just like the capitilist pig, you've decided to take the pubic hair for yourself and leave the working class with nothing. For shame. So capitalists have bigger dicks then the Commies? Well, if your dick is made up of of pubic hair, then yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Julian Report post Posted November 28, 2002 I can speak on behalf of CPUSA. Our policy regarding Pringles, is that Pepsico, who own Pringles, shall be nationalised, and the Politburo shall then decide which particular foodstuffs shall continue to be produced. If Pringles are to be continued, they shall come only in one flavour (original) and shall be renamed something like "revolutiongles". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Julian Report post Posted November 28, 2002 I did past by the school house, you know, so would you like to point out a successful communist society? Every Socialist country has been successful, but those not committed to the ideals of Marxism-Leninism have gained power and destroyed those countries. Cuba, China, USSR, Chile, and many other countries have had a successful period of socialism. Once socialism is achieved in all countries, as it will be, then we shall see Communism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kotzenjunge Report post Posted November 28, 2002 You're both still full of shit, and I can almost guarantee that neither of you actually stand for the ideals that you're "preaching." You aren't full of shit when you say that Communism works, no. You're full of shit because you've yet to convince anyone who doesn't have radical leanings already (like everyone except me) that you're truly correct in your assertions. At this point, I would like to ask a moderator to move this to Current Events, so we can see how their so-called defenses of a system that they themselves fail to truly believe in hold up. I'd defend them if they had a pair of fucking brain cells. Fo sheez, Kotzenjunge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DARRYLXWF Report post Posted November 28, 2002 Would you seriously defend communism? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kotzenjunge Report post Posted November 28, 2002 Of course. Not so much Communism as Socialism, but any defense is a lost cause the moment it leaves the theoretical stage because of human flaws keeping such a system from working out. Oh, and you need to change your subtitle, man! I've enjoyed watching it count down. Fo sheez, Kotzenjunge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DARRYLXWF Report post Posted November 28, 2002 Done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Julian Report post Posted November 28, 2002 The problem people have is that they equate Socialism with Communism. Communism can only ever actually be achieved when the world becomes Socialist. So, the correct term to be used would be Marxism-Leninism, which calls for Socialism with the eventual goal of Communism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kotzenjunge Report post Posted November 28, 2002 But both are unattainable due to human inequities. I really wish you'd admit that. Fo sheez, Kotzenjunge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Slapnuts00 Report post Posted November 28, 2002 Wow, I just saw this thread, I don't think these guys realize how YOUR MAKING FUN OF THEM. Anyway, look let's propose a scenario where the country is Communist. Everyone has to have a job to keep the country running and gets the same pay and benefits, most likely according to their skills and what the government assigns them. You, you'll be a doctor, you, you'll work the register at the local McStalinBurger. Now, since everyone get's the same pay and benefits no matter what job they're performing who would want to have a more complicated or dangerous job when they can just do something easier for the same benefits? What's the point of even finishing school, getting a degree or learning a new craft? The whole point in a Capitalist society is to advance your skills and quality of life, because with new skills and new education comes new oppurtunities for greater wealth and sucess. Without that incentive, no one will be motivated to do anything beyond the minimum. Who's gonna force them to accept their assignment? The government you say? With force, huh? Then it becomes a tyranical dictatorship where the people live in fear and poverty. Great idea. And what about our leaders? One of the great things about our current government is a leadership by the people system where we elect our leaders, keep checks on their power and can elect someone new every four years if we want. What if we try the Communist thing and we don't like it? Can we elect new leaders? Will there be checks on the government's powers? Doesn't sound like it, so what's to stop the government from becoming a police state? Nothing. And I don't see how you can sell the idea of a police state to the people. We are not a completely Capitalist society anyway. We have a lot of socialist elements. The government provides public education, social security for the old, welfare for the needy, and medicare for those in need of health assistance. The whole idea is the government will be there to help you, but you're expected and encouraged to go out and make something of yourself, learn a new skill, get a job, earn some wealth, invest it (if you want!) and contribute to the overall health of the country. It's kinda like your parents, of course they're gonna be there to help you when you need it, loaning you so money to go to college or providing you a place to stay if you need it, but in the end they want you to go out and make something of yourself and gain your own success. With Communism, it's like always living under your parents when your 12, they are the supreme authority who tells you what to do, and you must listen to them or face consequences. I don't think anyone prefers the latter to the former. That's the best way I can describe why Communism will never work. Do you even realize that because of our society that encourages the free market of ideas that your allowed to promote Communism and we can have a public discussion of it? Under Communist rule we would not ever be allowed to speak out against the government and if we did, our families would probably be informed we've "disappeared". The system works great, the American people are happy, there's always room for improvement but a radial shift to a flawed ideolistic theory that will NEVER work without policing and tyranny is certainly not the answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Edwin MacPhisto Report post Posted November 28, 2002 Heh heh. This is the best thread ever. Simply because OH MY GOD YOU GUYS ARE TAKING IT SERIOUSLY OF COURSE HE KNOWS HE'S BEING RIDICULOUS. I will enlist in the event that I can get a Pringle jetpack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Incandenza Report post Posted November 28, 2002 I'm baffled that some people are getting so pissed off when these guys are reassuring us that there will be Pringles for everyone under Communist rule. No response to my email, yet. I would've figured at least an auto reply. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted November 28, 2002 But, but... it depends on the favor of Pringles! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooseCannon Report post Posted November 28, 2002 I'm very glad this thread was moved to Current Events. I've long thought that there was a real Pringle discussion deficit in this folder. I started 4 different threads on the topic, and not one of them got a response!?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Banky Report post Posted November 28, 2002 I did past by the school house, you know, so would you like to point out a successful communist society? Every Socialist country has been successful, but those not committed to the ideals of Marxism-Leninism have gained power and destroyed those countries. Cuba, China, USSR, Chile, and many other countries have had a successful period of socialism. Once socialism is achieved in all countries, as it will be, then we shall see Communism. Oh yes, Russia PROSPERED because of Communism. I don't think any Communist regime has ever been better than a democratic Capitalist state. I know you are just fucking around with your bullshit, but atleast get your points right. France, Britain, Germany, Canada, America, so on, so forth have all been a million times more succesful with their form of rule than the Russian and Cubans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Banky Report post Posted November 28, 2002 Julian's Absolutely correct. What communism does, is give people the freedom of choice to think and take care of themselves. You'd all be suprised to how un-democratic western society has become. The media immedietly dismisses anything it considers remotely anti-capitalist, and each generation is now being brought up with the impression that communism doesn't work. Don't worry folks, your time will come, soon enough. Ask the 13 million murdered Russians who lost their lives from only 1918-1945 how much freedom Communism gave them. Yes, a dictatorship empowers people - it gives them freedom. <---- If this is what you think, than you are a complete blockhead. A dictatorship strips all citizens of power. It puts the power into one rulers hands, and allows him to manipulate you as he pleases. No one would dare stand up to Stalin - why they'd get murdered. And China, lets say this. 20 years ago they implimented a rule saying families can only have one child. They'd be fined, or worse for doing differently. Tell me, would a deomocratic state allow this? Or would only a greedy power hungry dictator implement this? Exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Junah98 Report post Posted November 28, 2002 Ask the 13 million murdered Russians who lost their lives from only 1918-1945 how much freedom Communism gave them. And ask the 13 million Americans who are being deprived of their Pringles by the Facist US Government. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Banky Report post Posted November 28, 2002 Was that your intelligent retort to my proof that Communism is complete bullshit? If so, good job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest big Dante Cruz Report post Posted November 29, 2002 Oh, let's also not forget the wonderful country China is. Given the fact that it fell into a complete recession and famine due to communist ideas of Chairman Mao and in what terrific standing Cuba is in. As for your statements about capitalistic societies supporting dictatorships, well, hello Mr. Pot, I'm the Kettle. Stop reading straight out of the textbook and get some actual knowledge in your head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Junah98 Report post Posted November 29, 2002 As for your statements about capitalistic societies supporting dictatorships, well, hello Mr. Pot, I'm the Kettle. Ah, I see you make reference to the disgraceful handing of marijuana by the US. Another reason why capititalist society doesn't work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Banky Report post Posted November 29, 2002 I actually thought you MIGHT know what the hell you are talking about - but after this response, I can tell that you don't. How sad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites