KEVIN SMITH

[Guest realsandman420]

sigh...i want to like his comic book stuff, but they are just bad.

 

i love his view askew comics....i have no problem with them.

i keep buying everything else he writes, and i am just not enjoying them....

that DD: the target....now that was beyond bad. i don't think i'm gonna get the rest.

 

bullseye flicks a toothpick from 1 biulding to another and it goes through a window to kill a woman???? are you fucking kidding me???? if it was the hulk...maybe....but come on....

[Guest starvenger]

bullseye flicks a toothpick from 1 biulding to another and it goes through a window to kill a woman???? are you fucking kidding me???? if it was the hulk...maybe....but come on....

Um, are we talking breaking glass here? That IS a bit farfetched.

 

Smith can generally do a good job when he writes one book at a time, but once he adds to that workload (by writing another book or directing a movie or lighting it up with Jason Mewes) it starts getting really weak. He should probably stick to film, since writing books is really just a side project for him.

[Guest raptor]

I've never been dissapointed in any of Kevin Smith's books. Some don't have a deeper message or anything, but I've always been entertained.

 

I've heard a lot of bitching about the toothpick, but I wasn't bothered by it. 1) it's a comic. rules of physics need not apply. 2) Isn't Bullseye's power to kill anyone with anything at anytime? Not a big fan, but couldn't his abilities augment the physics of the stunt?

[Guest starvenger]

2) Isn't Bullseye's power to kill anyone with anything at anytime? Not a big fan, but couldn't his abilities augment the physics of the stunt?

Which is why I wanted clarification. Making a toothpick a lethal weapon - believable, given Bullseye's known abilities. Breaking glass with said toothpick, well, that's another story.

[Guest areacode212]

Maybe it was a custom-made adamantium toothpick with special acceleration powers.

 

Yeah, it kind of bothered me too. The point was to make the reader be all "Woah! What a badass!" But it just seemed pretty dumb. The other thing that annoyed me about the book was the fact that the narration said that it took place "over a year" after September 11th, yet Daredevil is shown overlooking the wreckage (which was cleared up long before the anniversary).

 

I'll probably keep picking up the series anyway.

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

I think it's pretty funny that everyone says how great his Daredevil stuff was, but all really did was kill off two characters in 8 issues.

 

If he was a good writer, he could tell stories, without killing people off.

 

 

Oh, and Bullseye's throwing abilities have always been far-fetched. Remember when he killed some guy with a peanut?

[Guest starvenger]

Oh, and Bullseye's throwing abilities have always been far-fetched. Remember when he killed some guy with a peanut?

The thing though is that you're already suspending your disbelief about things. We know 2 things about Bullseye's super powers:

- He can hit any target he chooses

- He can make anything a lethal weapon

 

Thus, killing someone with a peanut or a toothpick is within the realm of 'believability' - it's potentially possible. Not likely, but possible. Having the peanut caroms off 2 walls and the floor, THEN hitting and killing someone - well, that's just silly.

[Guest Sassquatch]

Bullseye's abilities have been about as screwed up as the Hulk's invulnerability.

 

The Hulk has taken a nuke and survived yet he goes down after a tranquilizer gets him.

 

Bullseye's accuracy abilities have either been overdone to outrageous and too far-fetched instances to situations where Bullseye should have nailed his target but ended up missing.

 

The toothpick kill would fall under the category of "why doesn't he just fire a rubber band at Lilandra then?" which is just too outrageous even for Bullseye.

 

The funny thing is that many of the fans who are diehard "realism" nuts are praising the Bullseye kill which is just hilarious considering how you could NOT do that in real life no matter what someone says.

 

Oh and getting possibly rid of Bullseye's old suit is a major red flag considering that his outfit was one of the most unique in Marvel and now he looks like a run of the mill assassin which Bullseye is not.

[Guest raptor]

Oh and getting possibly rid of Bullseye's old suit is a major red flag considering that his outfit was one of the most unique in Marvel and now he looks like a run of the mill assassin which Bullseye is not.

I agree. That's the one problem I see with the movie, since his constume could translate to film really easy. It's always been one of the starkest, most endearing villain costume.

[Guest Sassquatch]

I was not a fan of the Kingpin casting job with Clark but I accepted it.

 

The Bullseye costume change however has caused me to see red and I'll be the first to say that Affleck looks like a tool in the DD costume. But the producers should have gone the full 9 yards and dressed Bullseye up in his comic book outift since they already had Affleck look about as close as possible to DD (which does not mean it looks good).

[Guest starvenger]

I was not a fan of the Kingpin casting job with Clark but I accepted it.

Same here. They were going for the "look", and skin colour aside, Duncan is about the only guy who has that "look"

 

The Bullseye costume change however has caused me to see red and I'll be the first to say that Affleck looks like a tool in the DD costume.  But the producers should have gone the full 9 yards and dressed Bullseye up in his comic book outift since they already had Affleck look about as close as possible to DD (which does not mean it looks good).

Looking at Bullseye's head, I couldn't help but wonder if he was looking for the Lost Ark of the Covenant.

[Guest Sassquatch]

"Same here. They were going for the "look", and skin colour aside, Duncan is about the only guy who has that "look"

 

- starvenger

 

 

Honestly, King Kong Bundy would not have been such a terrible choice to have play the Kingpin in the DD movie. He has acting experience and probably would not do as bad as a job as Clarke could. Bundy does have the look and has played the bad guy throughout nearly his entire wrestling career so he's very familiar with the type of role.

 

"Looking at Bullseye's head, I couldn't help but wonder if he was looking for the Lost Ark of the Covenant."

 

- starvenger

 

 

Looking at Bullseye's head, I can't help but wonder how silly Farrel must have felt sporting the carved bullseye in his head.

[Guest raptor]

Michael Duncan's a pretty good actor, from what I've seen him in. I'll admit that I don't know if he can pull of the intensity I want from Kingpin, but I'll at least give him a shot.

 

Was Bundy ever in a movie/television show? I'm asking because I really cannot see that slug as a good Kingpin, or even a good actor.

[Guest red_file]

Was Bundy ever in a movie/television show? I'm asking because I really cannot see that slug as a good Kingpin, or even a good actor.

He was on Married...with Children twice as a member of the Wanker family, and he was in the Richard Pryor movie Moving. In both roles he have very few lines and mostly portrayed a hulking, scary guy. I don't think he would've been a good Kingpin, but, then, I don't think Clark will be either. And I can't think of any actor who could.

[Guest Sassquatch]

I don't understand why the producers didn't just go ahead and ask someone who can act but is skinny to put on the fat suit for Kingpin and pull off the performance of a lifetime.

 

Bundy is the only fat guy with the look of Kingpin and since he doesn't say a lot but rather gets to the point in situations (i.e. not a lot of dialogue) I feel that Bundy can pull off the job if he was coached properly.

 

Over the years, names like Robert DeNiro and Marlon Brando have popped up as possibly playing the Kingpin and while they have their own limitations in the look of the character, I honestly can not see anyone play the Kingpin for obvious reasons.

[Guest J*ingus]

Have you ever heard Bundy's voice? High-pitched, nasal, not at all Kingpin material. And his head is a bit narrow and odd-looking. If you're just casting for look, I wouldn't go with him.

[Guest Sassquatch]

I am casting for look in this one and Bundy is the only big fat guy that fits the bill. Duncan is still too small to look the part of Fisk who says he was weighing in at around 350 lbs. while he was shooting DD (that is up 25 .lbs. from his original 325 lb. weight pre-DD).

 

Bundy's voice is fine and I'm not sure where you got the nasal thought from. Bundy was doing an ad for the local car dealership down here in my town about two years ago and his voice sounded fine for the role of a soft spoken crime lord who doesn't dick around with words.

 

But hey, Clarke got the role and even though I do not agree with it I will put aside my displeasure with his casting and have an open mind for the movie (which is hard enough thanks to the potential shittiness of the movie itself from trailers and such).

[Guest El Satanico]

I never understood the big problem alot of people have with Duncan getting the role.

 

It isn't just because he's black is it?

 

Does Kingpin have something in his character that requires him to be a white guy? If there's nothing about his character that requires him to be white, what's the big deal what color he is.

 

If there's something in his character that requires him to be white, then i understand where you guys are coming from. Otherwise you're all just being way too anal about things that don't matter to the story.

[Guest red_file]

I don't think there's any hidden racism behind the displeasure at Clarke getting the role; or, at least, there isn't in my case. My problem lay in the fact that Clarke is an immediately sympathetic actor. The previews I've seen for the movie haven't made me think of the Kingpin as evil/ruthless/bad/villain; thus far he's come across to me as a nice guy in a suit that is puzzled over how to get rid of a problem. I tended to read Kingpin as a more ruthless character.

 

And it's not like I'm not going to give Clarke a chance. I'm not walking into the theatre thinking "This ain't the Kingpin, prove me wrong." I'm just thinking that he wouldn't have been my choice for the role, but I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised by his portrayal.

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

I don't understand why the producers didn't just go ahead and ask someone who can act but is skinny to put on the fat suit for Kingpin and pull off the performance of a lifetime.

 

Bundy is the only fat guy with the look of Kingpin and since he doesn't say a lot but rather gets to the point in situations (i.e. not a lot of dialogue) I feel that Bundy can pull off the job if he was coached properly.

 

Over the years, names like Robert DeNiro and Marlon Brando have popped up as possibly playing the Kingpin and while they have their own limitations in the look of the character, I honestly can not see anyone play the Kingpin for obvious reasons.

Ummmm, how's a guy in a fat suit gonna beat up ninjas?

 

I mean, we always see Fisk kicking the shit out of a dozen guys while he's training, a guy in a fat suit couldn't do that.

 

 

Oh and Bundy is an awful choice. His voice isn't distinguised enough for Fisk, he looks like a moron rather than a mater criminal, and everything about him screams "bush-league"

[Guest SP-1]

Though I admittedly don't know much about Daredevil or Bullseye, I will pop in and say that killing someone with a toothpick is actually possible. I have a friend whose father was a Navy Seal (one of the FIRST after it was created), and he is trained to injure and likely kill with toothpicks. He actually lodged one in some guy's leg once, if I remember the story correctly.

 

Just thought I would drop that interesting tidbit of knowledge before going on to say:

 

I am still hesitant to buy Affleck as Daredevil. I don't know much about the character, but I know enough to know that this could either be absolutely great or it may be cheesy as hell. While a middleground is possible, I think it may end up in one of those two extremes. He's a fine actor and all but I'm not sure this is going to work.

 

As for Duncan as Kingpin . . . I dunno. Maybe.

 

I have no concerns over Colin. He's an amazing actor who I absolutely mark for and I'm sure he'll do fine.

 

SP

[Guest Sassquatch]

I have no problem with Duncan's skin color in his role of playing the Kingpin. My only concern is if he has the skills to act as the Kingpin along with the possibility of him ghettozing the character.

 

I hope he will do a great job as the Kingpin because from where I stand, the movie looks pretty campy (even without Duncan).

[Guest HellSpawn]

I dont have anything at all against an african american Kingpin, I just hate all this (and this is what *I* think is the reason [or at least one of the reasons] because they picked Duncan), lets make an AA friendly movie, lets use some AA and that way AA will come to see the movie too.

 

And 'bout Bundy... I dunno, if we are talkin of big guys, how about Vader, this guy was a little faster than Bundy and looks meaner.

 

Oh well, lets hope they make a good and watchable movie. Please, not another "Batman & Robin".

[Guest netslob]

y'know, i like Kevin Smith, i like his work, his movies and his Askewniverse books okay, i just can't stand the rabid fanboyism he seems to generate. i mean, cripes fellas settle down. this is one of the main reasons i stopped buying 'Wizard' magazine: a) i don't needs Smith's and Alex Ross' cocks forcibly shoved down my throat, and b) i don't like being called a loser every time i flip the page. these are the same assholes who have to buy multiple issues of 'Elektra' and 'Codename: Knockout' just in case they soil them too badly...and I'M the loser. douche bags.

[Guest Sassquatch]

"these are the same assholes who have to buy multiple issues of 'Elektra' and 'Codename: Knockout' just in case they soil them too badly...and I'M the loser. douche bags."

 

- netslob

 

 

You also forgot to add in any issues with the Black Widow in them.

[Guest netslob]

and Lady Death...lets not forget Lady Death...

[Guest Sassquatch]

She hasn't even been a blip on the radar for the last couple years at Wizard since they turned their attentions to Witchblade, Tomb Raider, and any other Top Cow chick.

[Guest starvenger]

She hasn't even been a blip on the radar for the last couple years at Wizard since they turned their attentions to Witchblade, Tomb Raider, and any other Top Cow chick.

I'm actually shocked - SHOCKED I tell you - that Jun/Princess hasn't gotten more BJotM treatment in Wizard. I mean, Ross is the creative director for Battle of the Planets AND it's a Top Cow Book AND she's a chick. I mean, throw in a Michael Turner pinup and a foreward by Marc Alessi and the Wizard Offices could spontaneously combust...

 

That being said, I'd still say that BotP is the only Top Cow book worth getting these days...

[Guest Sassquatch]

The GI Joe chicks get some love from the Whizard boys. If Jun/Princess were a Transformer there would be sticky stains on the pages.

 

Now that Kevin Smith is writing Black Cat I have noticed that she has been getting quite a bit of attention from the Whiz boys. It's only funny because each time her name was actually brought up in the Whiz, it would have at the end of it "is a totally worthless character."

 

Just saying.

[Guest starvenger]

Now that Kevin Smith is writing Black Cat I have noticed that she has been getting quite a bit of attention from the Whiz boys. It's only funny because each time her name was actually brought up in the Whiz, it would have at the end of it "is a totally worthless character."

Black Cat would probably get even more press if it was, you know, ON TIME.