Guest evenflowDDT Posted December 3, 2002 Report Posted December 3, 2002 OK, I just saw this a couple days ago, and to put it simply - I don't get it. Why are so many people disturbed by this movie? What's the point? Why the hell is that ugly skinny little boy a focus instead of the funnier skinny little boy with pink bunny ears? I've never seen Kids, which is by the same guy, but please tell me it's a lot better, or at least has a point, because I really wanted to see that, until I saw this.
Guest El Satanico Posted December 3, 2002 Report Posted December 3, 2002 You're mistaken about Gummo and Kids being directed by the same guy. I haven't actually seen all of Gummo. Disliking it shouldn't keep you from seeing Kids as it's a pretty straight forward movie. The director of Kids also made Bully. The guy seems to have a thing for showing "teenagers" having sex. In fact he makes the sex scenes seem so real that they actually become disturbing to watch.
Guest J*ingus Posted December 3, 2002 Report Posted December 3, 2002 Kids is a decent movie, if a bit preachy, a little like an X-rated version of an after school special. But Gummo? You didn't miss anything, Evenflow, there was nothing to miss in the first place. It's one of the stupidest, vilest, most worthless "films" ever made.
Guest razazteca Posted December 3, 2002 Report Posted December 3, 2002 Gummo basically is a qusi-documentry reality movie about White Trash a day before or after the big Tornado/Hurricane event. Harmony Korman? is one crazy person!
Guest Incandenza Posted December 4, 2002 Report Posted December 4, 2002 Kids was WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY overrated (good soundtrack, though). I haven't seen Gummo, nor do I have any interest.
Guest J*ingus Posted December 4, 2002 Report Posted December 4, 2002 It wasn't a documentary or reality movie though, since the people in it were actors playing parts (except the retarded woman, who really was mentally handicapped). It was an ordinary fictional tale; just a really shitty one.
Guest godthedog Posted December 4, 2002 Report Posted December 4, 2002 you weren't disturbed by ANYTHING in 'gummo'? not the small children yelling obscenities? not the way tummler shot the grandmother in the foot, then disconnected her life support? not the bugs crawling on the walls? not the retarded woman who keeps a toy baby and breastfeeds it and shaves her eyebrows? not the albino woman with fucked up feet? not the very real fistfight between the 2 brothers who supposedly killed their parents? not the footage of 'slayer' carved into a guy's arm? not the dirt and grime that was everywhere, not the decaying yellow look that was in the whole movie? not the color of the bathwater? not the kid eating the candy bar after it fell INTO the bathwater? none of this at least made you uncomfortable? you need help. i hated 'gummo' with a passion the first time i saw it and it got a really emotional reaction from me, but i was totally fascinated with it & couldn't stop thinking about it. now i kinda get a kick out of it, and i actually wrote a paper on it for my feminist film theory class.
Guest Lethargic Posted December 4, 2002 Report Posted December 4, 2002 I've said this before and I'll say it anytime Harmony or Gummo is brought up. I knew the guy a few years ago. I have friends that know him quite well, a lot better than me. When he makes really weird crap like Gummo, everybody blows smoke up his ass and talks about how great he is. But the fact of the matter is that he's a full blown idiot. Kids was good because he didn't direct it and somebody else took his idea and fixed it. Everything he has directed has been pure crap that makes no sense. Harmony's fans will have you believe that's because he's a genius and that it just goes over your head. The truth is that he doesn't know what the hell he's doing either. If he ever had to make a movie with an actual plot and story that made a little bit of sense he'd be completely lost, so he just takes a bunch of weird shit, throws it all at a board and sees what sticks. A few people will be shocked by some of the retarded crap that he comes up with and will mistakingly think that makes it good.
Guest godthedog Posted December 4, 2002 Report Posted December 4, 2002 i've read harmony korine interviews, and i'll agree that he really is just a wanker & doesn't know what he's doing, but i still think 'gummo' ended up being a pretty damn fascinating movie. and it always generates a strong response from everyone who sees it (except apparently evenflow), which i have to admire. but i can't really credit any of this to harmony, as he just has no idea what the fuck he's doing.
Guest J*ingus Posted December 4, 2002 Report Posted December 4, 2002 He once contacted an actor friend of mine about trying out for a movie. The very first thing Korine asked him: "So how far are you willing to go, like with nudity?"
Guest C.H.U.D. Posted December 4, 2002 Report Posted December 4, 2002 I wasn't shocked by anything in Gummo, because it was obvious the only thing Korine was going for in making the film was an blatantly obvious attempt to be different and shocking. Colour me unimpressed.
Guest godthedog Posted December 4, 2002 Report Posted December 4, 2002 He once contacted an actor friend of mine about trying out for a movie. The very first thing Korine asked him: "So how far are you willing to go, like with nudity?" he was trying out for a harmony korine movie? is he a masochist or something? korine hates actors anyway.
Guest J*ingus Posted December 4, 2002 Report Posted December 4, 2002 He didn't know Korine's work or rep and didn't know any better. Good thing too, since this guy has a lazy eye, and god knows Klorine loves exploiting any and all physical deformities in his movies.
Guest cynicalprofit Posted December 4, 2002 Report Posted December 4, 2002 I remember wanting to see Gummo for a few years and could never catch it till about 4 months ago. I watched it and realized 2 things, the plot was bad since the movie didnt really work around one, it seemed more documentary like, which is scary because I know people like this. And 2, it was gross looking in terms of this being someones reality. I dont know if he was trying to give a kill white trash message or something, but he was pointing out that this is how some people live and its gross.
Guest dreamer420 Posted December 4, 2002 Report Posted December 4, 2002 I hate the guy. He is a prime example of a jackass, getting lucky with one hit script, and then being handed money to shoot lame ass shit he thinks is cool.
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted December 4, 2002 Report Posted December 4, 2002 you weren't disturbed by ANYTHING in 'gummo'? not the small children yelling obscenities? not the way tummler shot the grandmother in the foot, then disconnected her life support? not the bugs crawling on the walls? not the retarded woman who keeps a toy baby and breastfeeds it and shaves her eyebrows? not the albino woman with fucked up feet? not the very real fistfight between the 2 brothers who supposedly killed their parents? not the footage of 'slayer' carved into a guy's arm? not the dirt and grime that was everywhere, not the decaying yellow look that was in the whole movie? not the color of the bathwater? not the kid eating the candy bar after it fell INTO the bathwater? none of this at least made you uncomfortable? Sounds like I'd dig this. Mental note.
Guest IDrinkRatsMilk Posted December 4, 2002 Report Posted December 4, 2002 Gummo isn't so bad. It's just kind of an exposure to a world most people never see. I've known people just like the people in that movie. It's not high art by any means, but it's disturbingly realistic, I'll give it that. You could try dropping some acid and then watching it.
Guest Red Hot Thumbtack In The Eye Posted December 4, 2002 Report Posted December 4, 2002 Agent of Oblivion Posted on Dec 4 2002, 03:26 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QUOTE (godthedog @ Dec 3 2002, 06:31 PM) you weren't disturbed by ANYTHING in 'gummo'? not the small children yelling obscenities? not the way tummler shot the grandmother in the foot, then disconnected her life support? not the bugs crawling on the walls? not the retarded woman who keeps a toy baby and breastfeeds it and shaves her eyebrows? not the albino woman with fucked up feet? not the very real fistfight between the 2 brothers who supposedly killed their parents? not the footage of 'slayer' carved into a guy's arm? not the dirt and grime that was everywhere, not the decaying yellow look that was in the whole movie? not the color of the bathwater? not the kid eating the candy bar after it fell INTO the bathwater? none of this at least made you uncomfortable? Sounds like I'd dig this. Mental note. You might dig the soundtrack at least. It's full of grindy noise bands that were Relapse darlings in the mid 90's. If you're into that kind of thing.
Guest notJames Posted December 4, 2002 Report Posted December 4, 2002 Wasn't Chloe Sevigny in that movie? She's been great in pretty much everything I've seen her in (Kids, Last Days of Disco, Trees Lounge, Boys Don't Cry).
Guest Nevermortal Posted December 4, 2002 Report Posted December 4, 2002 Agent of Oblivion Posted on Dec 4 2002, 03:26 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QUOTE (godthedog @ Dec 3 2002, 06:31 PM) you weren't disturbed by ANYTHING in 'gummo'? not the small children yelling obscenities? not the way tummler shot the grandmother in the foot, then disconnected her life support? not the bugs crawling on the walls? not the retarded woman who keeps a toy baby and breastfeeds it and shaves her eyebrows? not the albino woman with fucked up feet? not the very real fistfight between the 2 brothers who supposedly killed their parents? not the footage of 'slayer' carved into a guy's arm? not the dirt and grime that was everywhere, not the decaying yellow look that was in the whole movie? not the color of the bathwater? not the kid eating the candy bar after it fell INTO the bathwater? none of this at least made you uncomfortable? Sounds like I'd dig this. Mental note. You might dig the soundtrack at least. It's full of grindy noise bands that were Relapse darlings in the mid 90's. If you're into that kind of thing. Burzum's on it.
Guest IDrinkRatsMilk Posted December 4, 2002 Report Posted December 4, 2002 Wasn't Chloe Sevigny in that movie? Yes, she was in it. She was good in it, I think.
Guest evenflowDDT Posted December 9, 2002 Report Posted December 9, 2002 *BUMP* Yea, shameless, but my internet was on the fritz but I didn't get to read the responses until now. The only part in Gummo that really bothered me was the guy that pimped his retarded sister. The sleazy guy who tried to molest the three girls who "lost their cat" would've bothered me if that didn't really happen quite often. What is up with all the killing of cats in that movie, anyhow?
Guest J*ingus Posted December 10, 2002 Report Posted December 10, 2002 It's part of a local joke about a Chinese restraunt that supposedly uses cats for meat. Yes, an obscure in-joke that only people in one part of one city would understand got made into a major plot point and running theme of the movie. Yet another reason to detest it.
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted December 10, 2002 Report Posted December 10, 2002 Disturbing scenes AND noisy grindcore?? I'm all over this shit. Next movie store trip, it's on.
Guest IDrinkRatsMilk Posted December 10, 2002 Report Posted December 10, 2002 They had cat meat in my local Chinese restaurant too. They weren't serving the cats to the customers, they just kept them in the freezer for the owners of the place to eat on their own time. Still, people were upset and the restaurant ended up closing.
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