HHH has just blamed Vince McMahon...

[Guest eirejmcmahon]

...for Owen Hart's death as part of a wrestling angle.

 

Does 1bullshit.com -

 

1) Ignore it.

2) Run irrate columns from Bob and Dave, decrying Vince McMahon and the WWE creative team as the worst kind of bastard hell spawn.

3) Run a press release from the WWE claiming that HHH was shooting.

[Guest Sandman9000]

Or 4. Binge on donuts.

[Guest Slapnuts00]

I think this situation is different. Piper was basically alowed to go out there and say what he wanted, so his comments we're exactly cleared, even Russo wasn't expected to come out to the ring. In WWE, believe me everything will be cleared by Vince and something like that would never have gotten out.

[Guest dreamer420]

...for Owen Hart's death as part of a wrestling angle.

 

Does 1bullshit.com -

 

1) Ignore it.

2) Run irrate columns from Bob and Dave, decrying Vince McMahon and the WWE creative team as the worst kind of bastard hell spawn.

3) Run a press release from the WWE claiming that HHH was shooting.

Stop crying about the Owen comment. And shame on you for trying to start an anti-HHH thread at the same time as well.

[Guest eirejmcmahon]

I think this situation is different. Piper was basically alowed to go out there and say what he wanted, so his comments we're exactly cleared, even Russo wasn't expected to come out to the ring.

Assuming that's true - and I personally don't believe that to be the case - whose fault is it that Piper was allowed to go out there with a live mic to say whatever his sad, crippled, over the hill ass wants to say ?

[Guest eirejmcmahon]

Stop crying about the Owen comment.

Nope.

[Guest the pinjockey]

How is this an anti-HHH thread? I thought this was an anti-1wrestling thread, did I miss something?

[Guest eirejmcmahon]

I thought this was an anti-1wrestling thread, did I miss something?

Nope.

[Guest dreamer420]

Look at the title of thread dumbass. It's just begging to have a bunch of HHH hating bitches in here.

[Guest Tony149]

I don't see this as an anti-HHH thread. I see it as a complaint towards Piper using Owen's name and hate for Ryder's site because he works for TNA.

[Guest dreamer420]

Trust me it would have turned to one.

[Guest eirejmcmahon]

Ah, what a surprise, Dave didn't watch the show on Wednesday.

[Guest eirejmcmahon]

Of course, if you're Bob Ryder, you whore out your fat overused asshole to shill! shill! shill!

 

RYDER: TAKING A LOOK AT THE RODDY PIPER "SHOOT INTERVIEW"

 

by Bob Ryder 12/10/2002 10:54:00 AM

 

 

I finally had a chance to watch the Roddy Piper "Shoot Interview" on www.rowdyroddypiper.com.

 

It takes a while to download, but it was worth the wait. If you are a fan of professional wrestling you don't want to miss an opportunity to watch this fascinating look at one of the most controversial and influential figures in the modern era of professional wrestling.

 

He has his critics, but who doesn't. Some say he rambles...and he does, but so what. He's Roddy Piper. He is what he is, and the shoot interview shows you Roddy Piper like you've never seen him. It was a truly captivating 82 minutes, and I highly recommend it.

 

A large portion of today's wrestling fanbase wasn't even born when Roddy Piper and Hulk Hogan were laying the foundation for the explosion of wrestling's popularity in the early 1980s. Very very few fans were around when Piper got his start in wrestling. That might be why so many of today's fans are dismissing Piper as a washed up guy who is trying to cling on to the wrestling business when he's way past his prime. Those fans don't know his history, and they should watch the shoot interview.

 

I remember reading about Roddy Piper when he was first starting out. The wrestling magazines of the day painted a picture of an obnoxious kid who was running roughshod over everyone on the west coast. I can remember hating him (that was a good thing) from a distance, having never even seen him wrestle. I remember how happy I was to read that he had lost a hair vs hair match and had finally got what was coming to him. Even in those early days Roddy Piper did a masterful job of manipulating the wrestling fans...even those who had never even seen one of his matches.

 

One of the things that some critics have taken Piper to task for is that he claimed one of his press releases that he was "the founding father of the WWF". One of the best parts of the shoot interview is Piper's passionate defense of that statement. Piper says he could probably have chosen a better way to word it, but then goes on to describe in a very convincing way why he feels he is justified in saying that. He points out that when he came to the company it was called the WWWF, and that his antics in the Piper's Pit segments led to huge ratings on MTV, involvement of people like Geraldine Ferrara, Cindy Lauper, Dick Clark and others. The momentum from the MTV appearances led to the birth of Wrestlemania and the rest is history.

 

Most fans, with good reason, look at Hulk Hogan as the most important person involved in those early days of pay-per-view but Piper makes a strong argument that without him there might not have been a Hulkamania. I can remember being backstage at Halloween Havoc a few years back when Piper made his surprise appearance at the end of the show. In his remarks that night he said something that really sums it up. His message to Hogan was, "if they hadn't been booing me, they wouldn't have been cheering you". It really is that simple. Every great babyface must have a great heel to feed off of. Piper was the perfect heel for Hogan to feed off of, and deserves as much (and maybe more) credit for the enormous success the WWF had in the early 1980's. As Piper says in the shoot interview, those fans were tuning in to see Hogan kick his ass. He was the catalyst for making people want to watch. If he wasn't "the founding father of the WWF" he was certainly one of them.

 

Piper spends a lot of the shoot interview responding to criticism from sheet writers and internet critics. Some would say that a person in Piper's position should have thick skin and should just ignore the criticism. After all, he's been stabbed before...so what's a little criticism. Actually, I thought Piper made some good points in his response. It's awfully easy for people like me to sit behind a computer screen and criticize people for what they say and do. There have been times I have personally gone too far in my criticism of various people in the wrestling business, so some of what Piper said in the shoot interview struck a nerve with me. I understand what he's saying and can't say I totally disagree with him.

 

Piper talks about his efforts to raise money for the Day Springs Healing Center. The money will be used to help build a hospital for any wrestler who is in need of help. For some reason Piper has received criticism about his efforts to raise money for this cause. I can't imagine why. Too many of the performers who literally risk their lives to entertain us end up destitute because of mounting medical bills. The wrestling business doesn't provide insurance or pension benefits and Piper is attempting to do something to assist people who couldn't otherwise afford medical care. It's a good cause and I am making a personal donation and encourage other fans to do the same.

 

Some have criticized Piper for attempting to revise history. I don't agree with that criticism. His history is something he lived himself and he is relating that history from his point of view. Others might have a different view of that history, but no matter how you look at it Roddy Piper is one of the most important and influential people ever to step into a wrestling ring.

[Guest Hogan Made Wrestling]

I bet if Hogan did a similar shoot, Ryder would be all over it pointing out stuff that "isn't true".

[Guest NoSelfWorth]

Did Ryder ever retract his 'exclusive' story of mid 2001, where he said that Bret Hart had signed with the WWF and would be leading the WCW invasion ?

[Guest HartFan86]

Did Ryder ever retract his 'exclusive' story of mid 2001, where he said that Bret Hart had signed with the WWF and would be leading the WCW invasion ?

Oh my GOD, don't even get me started on that one. What bullshit.

[Guest bob_barron]

Of course on that very same RAW Mick Foley just had to announce a special suprise or something.

 

I was like: OMG OMG OMG.

 

It turned out he was the enforcer for a match

[Guest dreamer420]

Of course on that very same RAW Mick Foley just had to announce a special suprise or something.

 

I was like: OMG OMG OMG.

 

It turned out he was the enforcer for a match

I remember that too. That is why I don't like to read rumors right before live shows.