Guest job squad Report post Posted December 6, 2002 I have one question why does edge suck so much at selling an injury. On smackdown he is hit with a stealchair by a 300 pound man before the main event not just once but twice. Yet in the match he is running around hitting spears and throwing a 220 pound olimpic champion over his head. Also he reverses an ankel lock twice. He also outlasts eddy gurrero the healthy tag team champion. As well as the almost multi-time wwf world heavyweight champion chris benoit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kojack Report post Posted December 6, 2002 well they had to have the face vs heel in the end and that is what happended Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Army Eye Report post Posted December 6, 2002 It was ridiculous for him to last so long in the anklelock, especially after the chair attack on him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted December 6, 2002 These anti-Edge threads are sooooooooo old. Considering Edge didn't eliminated Eddy and only eliminated Benoit cause he had help from Eddy- what's the big deal?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest job squad Report post Posted December 6, 2002 well they had to have the face vs heel in the end and that is what happended if they wanted face heel why not have it come down to angle and benoit . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted December 6, 2002 It was ridiculous to do every single one of his moves with his leg hurt. I mean jesus christ, 3 missile dropkicks, an edge-o-cution after flipping out of an angle slam, multiple back body drops... dear god he needs to see some Randy Savage tapes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AlwaysPissedOff Report post Posted December 6, 2002 Considering that crap like what happened on Smackdown happens all the time in the WWE(and wrestling, in general), it's pretty pointless to constantly bitch about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted December 6, 2002 It was ridiculous for him to last so long in the anklelock, especially after the chair attack on him It was a knee injury, not an ankle injury. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted December 6, 2002 While I dislike Edge, and he wasn't the best of all time tonight, I have to admit that I felt he at least sold the injury from begining to end (meaning you never just forgot about it and stopped selling it halfway through) better than he has in a long time, if not ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted December 6, 2002 Usually I don't bitch about Edge, infact I find myself often defending him. But the WHOLE FREAKING MATCH was based around Edges hurt leg - and it didn't effect him in the ring, other than give him time to rest. That really demeans kurt working on it and edges own personal/physical 'struggle' in fighting through the injury. A simple buckling of the leg would solve this problem, but he totally no-sold it on all of his moves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted December 6, 2002 Usually I don't bitch about Edge, infact I find myself often defending him. But the WHOLE FREAKING MATCH was based around Edges hurt leg - and it didn't effect him in the ring, other than give him time to rest. That really demeans kurt working on it and edges own personal/physical 'struggle' in fighting through the injury. A simple buckling of the leg would solve this problem, but he totally no-sold it on all of his moves. While this is true, at least he didn't just forget about it halfway through like he usually does. If we want to bitch about someone, let's bitch about The Rock and that damn kip-up he does at the end of all his matches thus no-selling the ENTIRE match that happened before it, talk about pissing me off right there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest creativename Report post Posted December 6, 2002 I still don't get why they don't just f*cking go all out with an Angle face turn. He's more over as a face than Edge is at most arenas anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted December 6, 2002 I still don't get why they don't just f*cking go all out with an Angle face turn. He's more over as a face than Edge is at most arenas anyway. I truly feel we're in the middle of that happening, so just hold your horses! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2002 Do we really need another anti-Edge thread? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted December 6, 2002 Wow, I wonder what would have happened if Edge actually *won* the match. Â (You know, I don't really know why I'm not upset, I mean Benoit has now fallen to the spear three times in five weeks. Oh well.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted December 6, 2002 Speaking of the Spear, that is one of the most unbelievable finishers that Edge could have. It just, doesn't click with him in my eyes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jobber of the Week Report post Posted December 6, 2002 I guess I thought it was the other way around. Â I thought it was stupid that Edge was selling a chair assault way longer than many referees do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest creativename Report post Posted December 6, 2002 Yeah, at this point, after what we've seen everyone else completely no-sell, it makes no sense fora single chair shot to "shatter" Rey's knee or to do so much damage to Edge. Â But people's complaints are that given his knee is severely injured, Edge should incorporate it into his moveset. Â I myself don't really think it's all that big of a deal, because no one else in the WWE other than Eddie and Benoit would bother to do that anyway. In fact, as I've said before, I think Edge's "acting" (as opposed to pschological selling) is good enough to make his opponent's offense look credible, which is more important. The problem is that Edge's character is so protected, it's tough to take him seriously as the "underdog". Â But in this case, I just feel sorry for the guy since he has to feud with Albert. Talk about getting your heat leeched. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted December 6, 2002 I guess I was the only one upset at Kidman for winning a match with the Shooting Star Press after Chavo worked his ribs all match long... Just saying is all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FeArHaVoC Report post Posted December 6, 2002 It was ridiculous to do every single one of his moves with his leg hurt. I mean jesus christ, Kurt Angle & 90% of the roster do this also. Â Would you rather Edge lay there on the mat and not be able to walk or Wrestle? Or would you rather have an exciting match with Submissions and near falls? If Edge did lay on the mat and sold the leg the whole match, then someone would say he was "blown up, lazy, can't work, Angle did all the work, etc." Â Get over it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godthedog Report post Posted December 6, 2002 edge was forgetting about it on & off through the whole match. especially late in the match, every single time he kicked it was with his right leg: the boot to kurt's face, the knee to the stomach to set up the edgecution, etc. just sloppy stuff going on. Â it's also pretty obvious that edge got lost on offense. he REALLY needs to expand his moveset. Â the flaws of the match weren't entirely his fault, though. why didn't angle put the anklelock on the bad leg? how is edge supposed to sell 2 bad legs anyway? match also just went on too long, with everybody kicking out of EVERYTHING waaaaaaaaaay past the point of plausibility. Â aside from all that, it was actually a really good match that i enjoyed a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godthedog Report post Posted December 6, 2002 It was ridiculous to do every single one of his moves with his leg hurt. Â I mean jesus christ, Kurt Angle & 90% of the roster do this also. Â Would you rather Edge lay there on the mat and not be able to walk or Wrestle? Or would you rather have an exciting match with Submissions and near falls? If Edge did lay on the mat and sold the leg the whole match, then someone would say he was "blown up, lazy, can't work, Angle did all the work, etc." Â Get over it that's ridiculous. if he'd sold the leg as well as you propose, NOBODY would've complained about it. look at the bret/austin match at revenge of the taker. austin just hobbles & punches & doesn't run around a whole lot, to the point that his knee actually gives out when he tries to run. that is how you sell a leg injury: consistently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nikowwf Report post Posted December 6, 2002 Angle was dying at the end, yet got a huge burst of energy and angleslammed edge off the top, then went back to dying... Â they all do it. why when Edge does it does everyone have a heart attack? Â niko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted December 6, 2002 If he didn't sell it, Anti-Edgers would bitch. Â Now he apparently didn't sell it right? Â Oy. Â I for one was highly entertained. The match told a damn STORY and that's what's important. In my eyes, as characters Edge and Kurt Angle went through hell to get a shot at the title. Which in turn raises the bar and gives alot more credit to that title, which is a good thing. Â *shakes head* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Redhawk Report post Posted December 6, 2002 Speaking of the Spear, that is one of the most unbelievable finishers that Edge could have. It just, doesn't click with him in my eyes. Â Edge looks like he has to curl up in a little ball to much for the move to look badass. He's not compact like Rhyno or even Goldberg to pull it off and make it look cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted December 6, 2002 I'm pretty convinced most of the Edge hate comes from ... Â 1) He's a face and smartmarks generally prefer heels... was their any support for Cena or Matt Hardy while their were faces? Was their any problems with Edge when he was a heel? Â 2) He's a face that actually wins more than loses, so he 'buries' everyone because faces by nature, are more likely to win clean over smartmark faves like Eddie, Benoit, or Angle. Â Most everything is a by product of those issues and can generally be dismissed or applied to other people smartmarks don't have a problem with through examination. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted December 6, 2002 I would think that's fairly accurate, Goodear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Redhawk Report post Posted December 6, 2002 Edge was funny when he was a heel, but I actually didn't really get into his ring work intil his singles babyface run. But yeah, you're probably right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest humongous2002 Report post Posted December 6, 2002 First of all i could give 2 shits if Edge didn't sell his knee, I just can't understand why this horse face scrawny jackass is being turn into super babyface, after the match the only one that really looked strong was him because he was the last person that was eliminated from the match and it took Angle all the anklelocks and Angleslams in the world to beat a guy that started the match with a bad knee.The only reason the writers push this guy is b/c he is a homegrown talent, he hasn't impress me at all and i can't wait to see how much he is going to suck ass in the ring when he feuds with that other no-talent Albert. Everyone is entitled to pick their favorite wrestlers but i can't be brainwashed by the WWE into thinking Edge is great, just like Brock another guy that hasn't show me anything besides F5ing the Big Slow and believe me it takes more than that to impress the fans like for example working on your promo skills or even better trying to get some promo skills b/c these 2 don't have any.As far as i'm concerned there is the Smackdown 5 and then Edge being carried like a luggage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godthedog Report post Posted December 6, 2002 First of all i could give 2 shits if Edge didn't sell his knee, I just can't understand why this horse face scrawny jackass is being turn into super babyface, after the match the only one that really look strong was him because he was the last person that was eliminated from the match and it took Angle all the anklelocks and Angleslams in the world to beat a guy that started the match with a bad knee.The only reason the writers push this guy is b/c he is a homegrown talent, he hasn't impress me at all and i can't wait to see how much he is going to suck ass when he feuds with that other no-talent Albert. Everyone is entitled to pick their favorite wrestlers but i can't be brainwashed by the WWE into thinking Edge is great, just like Brock another guy that hasn't show me anything besides F5ing the Big Slow and believe me it takes more than that to impress the fans like for example working on your promo skills or even better trying to get some promo skills b/c these 2 don't have any. well, it's not like edge is without talent. he's improved a LOT over the past year, and he continues to. go back & watch his match with eddie at unforgiven: he played his part PERFECTLY. i've never seen anyone sell a concussion better. his timing was rocking, and he made all his comebacks at the appropriate times in plausible ways. and don't say the match was all eddie, cause it wasn't. eddie can't control the way his opponent sells. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites