Guest nikowwf Report post Posted December 6, 2002 Ok, we all know now that the main event for Armageddon on the smackdown side is Angle vs. Big Show? We also know that SPOILER JUST IN CASE Angle is hurt and needs knee surgery and is going to miss a few weeks. So how would you book this? If they are not letting Angle get the title (and btw, if he is able to wrestle by the Royal Rumble I do not see why he shouldnt be given it) I'd like him to lose when Brock just goes nuts and kills Big Show and gets him disqualified, or with Brock attacking Angle after Angle tries to stop him from attacking Show and ending the match. Then Angle can have a real gripe with Brock, and come back and win the Royal Rumble to set up the title match with Brock. (who regains title from Big Show at Rumble.) my 2 cents niko Niko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest eirejmcmahon Report post Posted December 6, 2002 Lesnar tears through the pair of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Redhawk Report post Posted December 6, 2002 Angle doesn't have to be back by Royal Rumble to face Brock at WM. Remember how HHH won the Rumble last year, then had to retain that No. 1 contender spot against Angle at No Way Out? As long as Angle is back by February's PPV, he can just beat whoever wins the Rumble (Chris Benoit) and then face Brock (who would have injured him at Armageddon. The only thing I don't like about that is, especially on the heels of this Albert-Rey-Edge thing, Smackdown is becoming the "Big Guys who Hurt Little Guys' Knees with Chairs" show. Unless they come up with a different way for Brock to injure Angle, like wrap him up in some amatuer wrestling shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted December 6, 2002 It doesn't have to be Brock injuring him. It could just as easily be Brock opening him up to it from Show or Benoit. Angle not winning the rumble would seem really anti-climatic to his chase for the title. Unless Benoit says he wasn't cleared to compete when he won and they go off and have the number one contender's match at NWO while Brock takes on another of Paul's challengers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BoboBrazil Report post Posted December 6, 2002 Kurt Angle angle slams Big Show and has Big Show right where he wants him. Brock runs in and attacks Big Show causing a DQ win for Big Show and he keeps the title. The next Smackdown Angle comes out and starts blaming Lesnar that he cost him the title. Lesnar comes out and destroys Angle to account for his time off. Angle comes back for the Rumble and wins it. Brock beats Big Show for the title at Royal Rumble. There you go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest eiker_ir Report post Posted December 6, 2002 Kurt Angle angle slams Big Show and has Big Show right where he wants him. Brock runs in and attacks Big Show causing a DQ win for Big Show and he keeps the title. The next Smackdown Angle comes out and starts blaming Lesnar that he cost him the title. Lesnar comes out and destroys Angle to account for his time off. Angle comes back for the Rumble and wins it. Brock beats Big Show for the title at Royal Rumble. There you go. yep that sounds good..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted December 6, 2002 So, have him be portrayed as unable to beat the Big Show, and then have Brock kill him? Wow, what a great idea. There is no reason for Angle to be in this match, other then to help make Brock look good when he beats the man who beat Angle (And Edge, and whomever else) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest converge241 Report post Posted December 7, 2002 hey maybe angle beats him and the trips unifies the titles at royal rumble so he can be on both shows and bury angle again *wakes up* man what a nightmare i had.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wwF1587 Report post Posted December 7, 2002 Kurt Angle angle slams Big Show and has Big Show right where he wants him. Brock runs in and attacks Big Show causing a DQ win for Big Show and he keeps the title. The next Smackdown Angle comes out and starts blaming Lesnar that he cost him the title. Lesnar comes out and destroys Angle to account for his time off. Angle comes back for the Rumble and wins it. Brock beats Big Show for the title at Royal Rumble. There you go. yep that sounds good..... sounds good to me too but i am staying with my prediction that at WM its Undispute Title (Again) WWE Champ VS Kliq Champ SMACKDOWN VS RAW Brock Lesner VS GOD (Triple H) face it... its gonna happen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted December 7, 2002 Here's what I do: Have Angle just about to beat Show when Benoit runs in and prevents that from happening. And then do the injury angle from Benoit. Why? Because of Benoit's promo on SD! saying that he has never wanted anything more than to be WWE Champion. You think he's going to let his hated partner get that title before him? Then...after Big Show and Heyman are celebrating still having the title, Brocks music hits and he destroys Heyman while Show escapes (slowly) Royal Rumble sees Lesnar win the title back, and Angle return to win the Rumble. No Way Out is the Benoit/Angle blowoff with Angle finally beating Benoit. Mania is Lesnar vs. Angle. Done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted December 7, 2002 I HATE that Angle is in this match. I don't want him to job to the Big Show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted December 7, 2002 Here's what I do: Have Angle just about to beat Show when Benoit runs in and prevents that from happening. And then do the injury angle from Benoit. Why? Because of Benoit's promo on SD! saying that he has never wanted anything more than to be WWE Champion. You think he's going to let his hated partner get that title before him? Then...after Big Show and Heyman are celebrating still having the title, Brocks music hits and he destroys Heyman while Show escapes (slowly) Royal Rumble sees Lesnar win the title back, and Angle return to win the Rumble. No Way Out is the Benoit/Angle blowoff with Angle finally beating Benoit. Mania is Lesnar vs. Angle. Done. One problem with bps' scenario: Heyman is the mastermind. At Armageddon, Heyman escapes, Show gets murdered. RR goes as bps says. At NWO, we get the Heyman/Lesnar blow-off when Heyman brings in Rhyno to kill Lesnar. WM Lesnar/Angle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted December 7, 2002 I HATE that Angle is in this match. I don't want him to job to the Big Show. Oh my God, REALLY? I would never have guessed, especially after you made it clear about twenty or thirty times already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted December 7, 2002 Knowing Heyman's affinity for swerves that make no sense, Angle will win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Black Tiger Report post Posted December 8, 2002 If there is one thing that Angle has shown he can do, its that be can bounce back from anything. Back in May AS, was going nuts claiming that the head shaving would kill his heat, it didn't happen, then he was jobbing to just about everyone, he still kept his heat. This guy could lose a loser wears a dress match, and spend two months wearing a dress and it wouldn't hurt him at all. I actually think Angle is above the WWE title, like Austin, and Rock, but he still would make a better champion that Big Joke. I'd have Angle about ready to win the title and have Benoit interfere and cost him the title. At RR or on Smackdown, Benoit gets a title shot, and Angle returns the favor, they fight at NWO with Angle going over clean via tap out. I still think that barring injury and/or major locker room heat, WWE is putting the title on Edge at WM-X9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Prime Time Andrew Doyle Report post Posted December 8, 2002 Who knows, Angle still might win. Even though the title has not changed hands at the December PPV excluding last year, history shows that only 3 times the title has changed hands at RR and only was has the champ going into the match not be the champ at WM. The title changed hands in '92 in the Rumble match with Flair and he was champ at WM and in '97 Sid was champ going into the match and even though he lost it, he was champ going into WM. The only time the champ winning at RR and not being champ at WM was 2 years ago with Angle. Besides, Brock has been apart of T.V and the storylines injured, why can't Angle. And if they do WM with a face Brock -vs- a heel Angle, it would seem pointless to have Brock go in as champ and win as it would be the first WM where someone was built up to be the heel (Ausitn was positioned as the face in '01, he turned at the event, not in the build up) and won the fued. But then again, it is all speculation, for all we know, they are starting the slow build up for Albert to win the RR and have Show become unstopabal, leading to Big Show -vs- Albert at WM X-9, now that would be funny as all hell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheHulkster Report post Posted December 8, 2002 Angle accidentally hits Lesnar when he tries to run in, Angle has the TBS beat, but Lesnar comes back in the ring and they have a big staredown. TBS hits Lesnar from behind and knocks him into Angle, Angle bounces off the ropes and walks into a chokeslam and it's over. Security drags Lesnar out, TBS walks away from the ring looking like a beaten man, and Angle stays in the ring, flipping out because he lost his chance to win the world title and is now determined to win the Royal Rumble so he can get a second opportunity. At least thats where it looks like it's going. They could have the Big Show injured Angle and have Angle come back at the Rumble and beat the piss out TBS in the main event, costing him his belt. It would be nice to have Angle beat the Big Show, but where do you go from there without screwing up the past few month's storylines? Angle's time will come soon enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted December 8, 2002 Here's what i would do, if we have to do have this match at the PP. It might turn into a convuluted mess, but it might turn out well. Have Angle kill Pig Show at December PPV. Destroy him, humiliate him and pin him with a huge move. Sign Angle vs. brock for the Rumble. Make the match kind of short, actually. For two reasons (One is to save the Big Match for Mania) Anyway, have run ins from heyman and Benoit, helping brock win back the title, turning him back heel and making Heyman his manager again, and Benoit as his ally. Make it clear that they were screwing Angle the whole time, and that they want Brock/Benoit at Mania to avoid a rematch. Okay then, the Rumble match. This is where it gets fucked up. Have Benoit be one of the last guys in the ring, and have number 29 or 30 be some real jobber, like Cena or something. Have Angle beat him up backstage and steal his spot (It's been done) and go nuts, destroying everyone, last eliminating Benoit. Have Heyman/Brock/Benoit pissed, and whine that Angle shouldn't have been in the Rumble to begin with. Stephanie makes Angle defend the spot in a number one contender's match with Benoit at No Way Out, some huge gimmick match. Have Angle win to blow off the feud, then go on to Mania and beat Brock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted December 8, 2002 Ahhhh but there is a flaw in your thinking Anglesault... ITS LOGICAL! and Its what every Smark Wants... So.... Not gonna happen... Its gonna be the Lumbering Big Show beating down Angle, whom evidently is a bit injured anyway. Angle comes back Hits a Angle Slam, which even though he done this before a dozen times the commentators will go into a whole Diatribe on CAN Angle Do it? just when he is about to cover Heyman jumps on the apron Angle goes after him and then Slap Choke Lift AHHHHHHHHHH Chokeslam! Uno Dos Tres. Big Show redeems his 2 month requirement reign. then he can lose it on Sunday Night Heat or something lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted December 8, 2002 Its gonna be the Lumbering Big Show beating down Angle, whom evidently is a bit injured anyway. Angle comes back Hits a Angle Slam, which even though he done this before a dozen times the commentators will go into a whole Diatribe on CAN Angle Do it? Yeah, I know, Logical=Sucks. Anyway, now that you mention this, another huge pet peeve is when announcers scream He can't hit (Insert move) on (Insert Big Man) When they are in the middle of the fucking move! The worst cases I remember is Kane and Vader. Kane had him UPSIDE DOWN already, and JR screams "He can't tombstone Vader!" Well at this point, JR, he's have to be a total fuck up to not hit the move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Human Fly Report post Posted December 8, 2002 Brock shouldn't have anything to do with it because if he and Angle are going at it at 'Mania then it's too early for physical contact IMO. Big Show shouldn't do it, because they shouldn't waste the rub (i.e. Albert). Benoit is the best man for the job. I'd have Benoit do it before the match, maybe you could have him say he was trying to get Angle hurt so he could take his spot in the title mathc or something. But have Angle come out anyway limping and bloody as crap. Big Show gets the win (uggh) when Angle's knee totally gives out trying to give the big guy an Olympic slam or he passes out from blood loss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheyCallMeMark Report post Posted December 8, 2002 I would have Angle win, but post-match have Benoit do a NASTY TURN~! Then on SmackDown! complete the face turn by gladly accepting a match with Lesnar, even though he's hurt. On his way to the ring, have Benoit jump him and work the leg, so that when he gets down to the ring, the match is already over, and there is no getting out of it. Send Angle for his surgery, with Lesnar as the champ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted December 8, 2002 What I would prefer to see is have Kurt Angle win the title at Armageddon, but do a knee injury angle as well, which will see Angle take his time off but remain champion. At the Royal Rumble Lesnar will win the Rumble and go on to No Way Out to beat the Big Show in a blowoff, #1 contenders match, leading to Lesnar vs. Angle at Wrestlemania for the WWE title. Won't happen but that it what I would like to see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted December 8, 2002 What I would prefer to see is have Kurt Angle win the title at Armageddon, but do a knee injury angle as well, which will see Angle take his time off but remain champion. At the Royal Rumble Lesnar will win the Rumble and go on to No Way Out to beat the Big Show in a blowoff, #1 contenders match, leading to Lesnar vs. Angle at Wrestlemania for the WWE title. Won't happen but that it what I would like to see. Yeah, but that leaves Angle as a pointless transitional champ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted December 8, 2002 I didn't say he was jobbing to Lesnar though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted December 8, 2002 I'm not a big fan of champ retaining at Mania Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted December 8, 2002 It's a waste turning Brock back heel, especially the number of gaps and hoops you have to jump to align him back with Heyman. Makes zero sense at this point. Have Brock cost Angle the match and not help out Angle when Big Show attacks him post match, before Benoit runs out to save Angle. Next SmackDown, make the tag re-match with Benoit and Angle vs. the Guerreros, the one where Benoit turns and injures Angle before Brock makes the save but too late. Angle gets his injury leave. Next week, Benoit, Show, Heyman, and the Guerreros are out having a ball. They decide to pick Angle's number for the rumble, thirty, since he won't be able to perform. Brock runs out, heels do the beatdown. Later, Steph announces Brock vs. Benoit for the number one contender's match. Start a program with Edge and the Guerreros where the Guerreros are making fun of Edge not having a partner and being able to get their tag titles. Brock vs. Benoit for the number one contender on SmackDown, with Brock winning, but Benoit looks really strong. At the rumble, Brock wins but has a harder time then Survivor Series due to Heyman's constant interference. If Rhyno's back, have him save Heyman from post-match revenge. Then, have Benoit and the Guerreros in the ring beating up Edge with a few others before the thirty hits. Long pause, with Benoit flashing the toothless smile, then boom, music. Angle wins. Next show, Heyman declares Angle ineligeble and uncleared to wrestle, therefore Chris Benoit is going to WrestleMania. Angle comes out, cuts his promo about how Heyman and Benoit tried to stop him, and whatever. Do a Big Show-Brock rematch where Heyman tries to interfere but the rock comes back and wants his title back (he should be back around then). If Mysterio's back, run an angle with Knoble where he gets Knoble pissed with a comment and Knoble attacks his knee during a sit-down interview about his surgery and his plans now that he's back. Use the Trailor hitch, complain about not getting as much attention with the title. So the card at No Way Out looks like Brock/Rock/Rhyno(depending on his health) and the Benoit/Angle match for the number one contendership. Angle and Brock win,. The next night, Heyman pleads with Angle to join him. To get revenge at Brock. to ensure Angle's win at Mania. Angle decides against it, he gets speared by Rhyno setting up the ribs. Benoit takes a shot at the title but he and the Guerreros get DQ'ed beating him up. Alot of stupid, hot-shotty decisions really screwed up this plan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted December 8, 2002 It's a waste turning Brock back heel, especially the number of gaps and hoops you have to jump to align him back with Heyman. How complicated is "We played all of you like fools" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted December 8, 2002 But why for the title. It's not like Brock is doing it to get anywhere, so there's no motivation. Yes, I'd like to have Brock going to WrestleMania as the heel but they blew it by throwing out the turn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest blachuuh_monkey Report post Posted December 9, 2002 If this was a just world they would have Angle snap Big Show's ankle in like 5 minutes but seeing as Angle is going to take time off to have his knee worked on after the match Big Show will probably put him away in a 2 star 10 minute waste of a match so he can go on to job the title in an even worse match back to Lesnar at the Rumble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites