(Observer) Talks of Austin's return

[Guest Anglesault]

No, Quake originated the Brock Happy Dance though.

That's what I just fucking said. Are you all illiterate? Maybe you just have low reading comprehention?

I know. I was clarifying for the confused one.

 

 

See, this "trademark" part of Brock's ring entrance is SO fucking well known, isn't it? Half of us have no clue as to what the hell he's talking about. Before this post, could YOU tell me without thinking hard how Brock got on the ring apron?

[Guest RickyChosyu]

Anglesault, if you're only going to respond to one part of my post without giving the rest of it any thought, it's pointless for me to do the same.

 

And I could easilly tell you how he gets on the apron. Maybe I'm in the minority, but after seeing him do it since he showed up it's pretty well-ingrained into my head. I think six months is enough time for people to notice.

[Guest Anglesault]

Seriously, where do you get this stuff? Last I checked, the title was taken off Lesnar because he was injurred, and because Vince wanted him to turn babyface with the Heyman heel-turn. It's irrelevant, but if you're going to through out things that supposedly have to do with your arguement, you might as well be correct in what you say.

 

It's part of a post a couple days ago dealing with SurSer and God's neck injury.

[Guest Rob Edwards]

Once you see a guy as often as we see Brock then it's hard not to have his entrance stuck in your head somewhere

 

I love Brock as much as the next man (unless the next man happens to be AS) but the last thing the WWE needs is another ego backstage

[Guest RickyChosyu]

Yeah, yeah, success going to his head, bla bla, dangerous attitude, yadda yadda yadda yadda. Agreed on all of that.

 

However, I just can't justify someone complaining about this. I mean, God knows if Jones had CHANGED HIS ENTRANCE, the world would spin off it's access and burn into nothingness.

 

This is almost as bad as "he didn't introduce himself to Droz, GOD DAMMIT!!"

[Guest Anglesault]

However, I just can't justify someone complaining about this. I mean, God knows if Jones had CHANGED HIS ENTRANCE, the world would spin off it's access and burn into nothingness.

And heaven forbid two people jump up onto the ring, because lord knows that's why fans cheer Brock! For Christ sakes. Taker, Big Show, Nash, and Kane all step over the top rope. The world hasn't exploded. Get over it, Lesnar.

[Guest RickyChosyu]

However, I just can't justify someone complaining about this. I mean, God knows if Jones had CHANGED HIS ENTRANCE, the world would spin off it's access and burn into nothingness.

And heaven forbid two people jump up onto the ring, because lord knows that's why fans cheer Brock! For Christ sakes. Taker, Big Show, Nash, and Kane all step over the top rope. The world hasn't exploded. Get over it, Lesnar.

You forgot Test.

 

 

It just seems foolhardy to me for someone who, physically, bares a resemblance to Lesnar, to use a trade mark of his.

 

Whether Lesnar deserves to be called a dick or not would depend on Lesnar's attitude on the situation, and the manner in which he went about telling Jones. Since this article specifies neither, and I think we can safely say there's no way of telling, and it seems like you're jumping to conclusions.

[Guest Rob Edwards]

However, I just can't justify someone complaining about this. I mean, God knows if Jones had CHANGED HIS ENTRANCE, the world would spin off it's access and burn into nothingness.

And heaven forbid two people jump up onto the ring, because lord knows that's why fans cheer Brock! For Christ sakes. Taker, Big Show, Nash, and Kane all step over the top rope. The world hasn't exploded. Get over it, Lesnar.

true, he actally had the same entrance as X-Pac whilst Pac was still there, I wonder if Sean did the same thing to him, I mean I could see his problem if someone started doing the happy dance but it's not like the jump is the defining feature of his entrace or anything

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

- Tall

- Good hair

- "In" politically

- Older than Triple H

- Proven company/ratings killer

 

He's a shoe-in for a push.

Rico has almost ALL these qualities....

[Guest Anglesault]

Whether Lesnar deserves to be called a dick or not would depend on Lesnar's attitude on the situation, and the manner in which he went about telling Jones. Since this article specifies neither, and I think we can safely say there's no way of telling, and it seems like you're jumping to conclusions.

Just making a big deal over something so petty is dickish.

[Guest AndrewTS]

I'd like to take a moment to restate my statement from the first page of this thread.

 

These rookie wrestlers are such babies.

 

Thank you very much, me. I agree with me, completely. In summary, I think that sums up the situation perfectly.

 

Brock's "entrance" isn't as distinctive as, say for instance, Rock's. I'm sure a hell of a lot of others did it before Brock was even born. Ropes are springy, high jumps are impressive = cool way to enter the ring.

 

I haven't heard Ric Flair get on Angle's case for "stealing" his "WOOOO!" from him, and that's a lot more distinctive than a rather generic entrance.

[Guest NYCTA Bus No. PA1767]

Good God, it seems that AS is one of the few people with any sense around here today. If some Hoss like Borck goes up to Jones and says "Hey stop doing my thing!" it's going to come off as rude. Especially if his "thing" is the same "thing" X-Pac has been doing for years.

 

Borck needs to wake up and realize that he is not God's gift to wrestling. It's taken a HHH push on steroids for over 5 months to get him over and the fucking Big Show, a JTTS for over a year was traded, given a suit, and Paul Heyman and was over in two weeks.

 

I'm tired of Borck and his forced promos and average wrestling. Shit, I'd rather listen to HHH, someone I at least know that could pull something off if he'd stop being so damn lazy. With Borck, I think this is it. He has nowhere else to go so why improve? He's already becoming the SD HHH just without the political tact.

[Guest DerangedHermit]

How do you know this is even true? God, you take every goddamn story from the net and think it's true. Instead of worrying about someone's goddamn ring entrance, go outside and take a deep breath of fresh air. This is bordering on pathetic and sad.

[Guest jester]

If this Lesnar/Jones story is true, I'd say Brock is getting paranoid and I can see why. They're already bringing up Batista the same way, and now they've got this Jones guy. Brocky must be thinking "Shit, they're training replacements for me."

 

That being said, if Brock thinks that another wrestler is too similar (unless that's part of an angle), I think it's ok to express concerns to management. Now, if I were management, I'd say, "Oh, mellow the fuck out," but I wouldn't have a problem with him bringing it up.

 

It doesn't help that there's a bad example for Brock to copy with Spot Defending 101 tactics. I'm surpised this board isn't all over reports that HHH is having Flair tone down his style (no whooos).

[Guest RickyChosyu]

Whether Lesnar deserves to be called a dick or not would depend on Lesnar's attitude on the situation, and the manner in which he went about telling Jones. Since this article specifies neither, and I think we can safely say there's no way of telling, and it seems like you're jumping to conclusions.

Just making a big deal over something so petty is dickish.

I'd say that goes both ways. It may be petty of Brock to ask him to stop doing it, but it's foolhardy on Jones' part for not complying. If it's such a petty thing, why should anyone have a problem doing it?

 

And judging on how Brock has sold generously for everyone from Bob Holly to Rikishi, I'd say his attitude hasn't gotten to "I am God's gift to wrestling" just yet. No, I would reserve talk like that for Bangs the Bosses Daughter, who can't be bothered to sell half of his Shawn's offense.

 

Like I said, jumping to conclusions is not your friend. If he has a hang up his ring entrance, it might be a bit petty, but it's even more petty to turn it into an arguement.

 

Just like it's a tad petty to turn to this post into an arguement.

[Guest Mole]

The 10-Man tag idea has been common knowledge since 2 weeks after it happened.

Was this the match when Nash injured himself? I was gone all summer, so I only saw wrestling in small spurts.

[Guest AndrewTS]

If this Lesnar/Jones story is true, I'd say Brock is getting paranoid and I can see why. They're already bringing up Batista the same way, and now they've got this Jones guy. Brocky must be thinking "Shit, they're training replacements for me."

 

That being said, if Brock thinks that another wrestler is too similar (unless that's part of an angle), I think it's ok to express concerns to management. Now, if I were management, I'd say, "Oh, mellow the fuck out," but I wouldn't have a problem with him bringing it up.

 

It doesn't help that there's a bad example for Brock to copy with Spot Defending 101 tactics. I'm surpised this board isn't all over reports that HHH is having Flair tone down his style (no whooos).

The whole purpose of the farm leagues is to provide a constant stream of talent that Vince has total control over, who work cheaper than a hot indy wrestler likely would.

 

Also, they can easily "replace" those who get to be too much of a problem to deal with.

 

And finding someone with Brock's accomplishments are pretty rare. However, his WWE ring work is rather unspectacular, and plenty of young hosses can do pretty much anything Brock's done in WWE. NCAA titles or no.

[Guest RickyChosyu]

However, his WWE ring work is rather unspectacular, and plenty of young hosses can do pretty much anything Brock's done in WWE. NCAA titles or no.

Agreed on Brock being unspectacular, but are you sure about that last part? From what we've seen of guys like Bautista so far, and what we've seen of Albert and Test for years, they can barely be bothered to keep their spots in order, much less put a match together.

 

Brock is hardly a ring general, but he's been fun to watch at times, while some of the others are simply attrocious.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

I'd put Brocks 'freaky strength' beyond Batistas, Alberts, Tests and other hosses (including Henry and Big Show).

 

In one of his earlier matches, Brock took on Booker T. In this match Booker went for a side kick and Brock caught him. Booker wasn't really in the right position and it looked like Brock was going to put him down and lift him up again - he didn't. In one continuous motion - pure strength - he lifted Booker up and slammed him down. That impressed the hell out of me.

[Guest Respect The 'Taker]

Wow, Brock is just making friends everywhere he goes!

Hehehe...I guess so.

 

 

Your next favorite wrestler, AS.

 

Nathan Jones. He's Austrailian for beer. From the land down under--his matches will make you chunder.

Honestly, in terms of Australian talent,he totally blows. I saw him on one of the WWA tours through here and he didn't particularly impress me.

 

Unfortunately, some of the really talented guys over here in Aussie-Land won't ever be noticed, much like some superstars in the making over in the US Indy territories will never get a second glance by the WWE.

 

One guy in particular i've seen here, named TNT, blows Nathan 'HOSS BAH GAWD" Jones away in every way.

 

But then again, he isn't 6'5, 240lbs, sucks and doesn't work 'WWE style'.

 

Fuck you Vince

 

Illusion

[Guest AndrewTS]

However, his WWE ring work is rather unspectacular, and plenty of young hosses can do pretty much anything Brock's done in WWE.  NCAA titles or no.

Agreed on Brock being unspectacular, but are you sure about that last part? From what we've seen of guys like Bautista so far, and what we've seen of Albert and Test for years, they can barely be bothered to keep their spots in order, much less put a match together.

 

Brock is hardly a ring general, but he's been fun to watch at times, while some of the others are simply attrocious.

His hoss offense can easily be duplicated. Will Davey Blahtista and others blow the moves horribly? Yes. Would Vince care? Hell no.

 

This is the same promotion that employed Ahmed Johnson, one of the sloppiest workers even on WWE TV, and still kept him around for years.

 

Sure, JR can give his Ross Battlefield Report, and say "this ain't ballet," but whatever. As long as they keep those hosses employed.

 

And Brock's strong, but I fail to see how that matters. So are plenty of hosses, and if Brock can F5 Show's fat ass injured, I'm sure healthy hosses can do the same thing. As AS said, Brock's too short and too light to be technically a hoss. I call him a "hossoid," since he's somewhat close to the requirements (which are 6'6" and over, nearly 300 pounds).

[Guest RickyChosyu]

His hoss offense can easily be duplicated. Will Davey Blahtista and others blow the moves horribly? Yes. Would Vince care? Hell no.

 

This is the same promotion that employed Ahmed Johnson, one of the sloppiest workers even on WWE TV, and still kept him around for years.

 

Sure, JR can give his Ross Battlefield Report, and say "this ain't ballet," but whatever. As long as they keep those hosses employed.

 

And Brock's strong, but I fail to see how that matters. So are plenty of hosses, and if Brock can F5 Show's fat ass injured, I'm sure healthy hosses can do the same thing. As AS said, Brock's too short and too light to be technically a hoss. I call him a "hossoid," since he's somewhat close to the requirements (which are 6'6" and over, nearly 300 pounds).

I don't see what that has to do with Brock as a wrestler. I can see what you mean about the strength (Albert got Kane up for a power bomb) but Brock manages to seem competent in the ring (at least, under WWE standards) while Bautista and the other choads expose the business routinely.