Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted December 10, 2002 All I can say is BRING IT ON MOTHERFUCKER. Starting in May, Gerorge Miller will be directing the ULTIMATE sci-fi fanboy dream film: MAD MAX 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gibson will return, and get this... the budget will be 104 MILLION! Let's hope it's more THE ROAD WARRIOR than THUNDERDOME, although THUNDERDOME was good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted December 10, 2002 From Yahoo! LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Mel Gibson (news) will earn almost $25 million to return to the "Mad Max" franchise for a fourth time, Hollywood trade paper Daily Variety said in its Tuesday edition. The $104 million project, called "Fury Road," will start shooting in Australia next May. The project is set up at Twentieth Century Fox, a unit of News Corp.'s Fox Entertainment Group Inc. George Miller, who directed and co-wrote the first three films, will direct "Fury Road" from a script he has been crafting for the past three years, the paper said. It did not reveal plot details other than to note that "Mad" Max Rockatansky will once again roam the lawless, post-apocalyptic Australian outback. The "Mad Max" franchise kicked off in 1979, and was followed in 1981 by "Mad Max: The Road Warrior" and 1985 by "Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome." Daily Variety noted that for all their iconic value, the trilogy grossed only $69 million at the U.S. box office. Gibson, 46, whose films include the "Lethal Weapon" franchise, the Oscar-winning "Braveheart" and the comedy "What Women Want," scored a big hit this year with the supernatural thriller "Signs." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Angle-plex Report post Posted December 10, 2002 This is good news. I just hope they don't make it to much of a "hollywood" movie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted December 10, 2002 This is good news. I just hope they don't make it to much of a "hollywood" movie. I'm praying this will be just what we need: A true badass in hardcore, gritty, violent chase scenes. This is the sci-fi equivelent of a new Dirty Harry film and to see this topic get snubbed by The Simpsons (Which hasn't been watchable since Conan O'Brian left.) is juts laughable to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godthedog Report post Posted December 10, 2002 i'm a huge fan of the mad max series, & 'the road warrior' has probably the greatest car chase of all time, but i am not looking forward to this sequel. think about it: when has a sequel after such a long hiatus been good? the two jakes? the evening star? texasville? godfather part III? never. it's never happened before, and it won't start now. if a director with coppola's talent couldn't pull it off, i don't think miller can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted December 10, 2002 i'm a huge fan of the mad max series, & 'the road warrior' has probably the greatest car chase of all time, but i am not looking forward to this sequel. think about it: when has a sequel after such a long hiatus been good? the two jakes? the evening star? texasville? godfather part III? never. it's never happened before, and it won't start now. if a director with coppola's talent couldn't pull it off, i don't think miller can. It HAS happened: Terminator 2 Sudden Impact The Dead Pool Pale Rider Die Hard: With A Vengeance (MUCH better than Number 2) GoldenEye Army of Darkness (ED 2 was 85 AoD was 92) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest J*ingus Report post Posted December 10, 2002 What the hell was Pale Rider a sequel to? And all those movies you mentioned all got made less than a decade after the previous one in the series (Alien 3 would be another one). This film will be released eighteen years after the last one. When has any sequel delayed for that long every done well? In fact, this movie reminds me of something: long-awaited (by cult fans) sequel to a sci-fi trilogy which was masterminded by one man (George Miller), the best of the three being the second one, and finally getting the fourth installment almost eighteen years later... remind anyone else of The Phantom Menace? ::cue ominous music:: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted December 10, 2002 What the hell was Pale Rider a sequel to? And all those movies you mentioned all got made less than a decade after the previous one in the series (Alien 3 would be another one). This film will be released eighteen years after the last one. When has any sequel delayed for that long every done well? In fact, this movie reminds me of something: long-awaited (by cult fans) sequel to a sci-fi trilogy which was masterminded by one man (George Miller), the best of the three being the second one, and finally getting the fourth installment almost eighteen years later... remind anyone else of The Phantom Menace? ::cue ominous music:: Pale Rider was the sequel to: A Fistful of Dollars For A Few Dollars More The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly High Plains Drifter They're all "Man With No Name" Films, and Unforgiven is kinda like what happens to the MWNN. Hang Em High is the origin story for the MWNN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest WrestlingDeacon Report post Posted December 11, 2002 They're all "Man With No Name" Films, and Unforgiven is kinda like what happens to the MWNN. Hang Em High is the origin story for the MWNN Whoa there, who the hell told you that? That's wild speculation at best. The Man with No Name series is a loosely related series anyway. And, High Plains Drifter includes the origin story for that character, which is different from Hang 'em High. Although, relating to your point there is 13 years between High Plains Drifter and Pale Rider, which kicks mucho amounts of ass. However, there are only 7years between The Enforcer and Sudden Impact and only five more from that to the Dead Pool. Trust me, I know my Eastwood. As for "Fury Road." I think it might be successful, but not up to the caliber of the first two films. It will probably be a little too glitzy and Hollywood (like Thunderdome), but they'll promote the hell of it and convince people that it's a huge event film. It might be a good action film, but not a close kin to first three. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted December 11, 2002 They're all "Man With No Name" Films, and Unforgiven is kinda like what happens to the MWNN. Hang Em High is the origin story for the MWNN Whoa there, who the hell told you that? That's wild speculation at best. The Man with No Name series is a loosely related series anyway. And, High Plains Drifter includes the origin story for that character, which is different from Hang 'em High. Although, relating to your point there is 13 years between High Plains Drifter and Pale Rider, which kicks mucho amounts of ass. However, there are only 7years between The Enforcer and Sudden Impact and only five more from that to the Dead Pool. Trust me, I know my Eastwood. As for "Fury Road." I think it might be successful, but not up to the caliber of the first two films. It will probably be a little too glitzy and Hollywood (like Thunderdome), but they'll promote the hell of it and convince people that it's a huge event film. It might be a good action film, but not a close kin to first three. I enjoyed Thunderdome. I think it there was no way to fufill the expectations set by Road Warrior. All I remember about Sudden Impact, (Besides the rape avenger plot) is there was a significant period of time between it and The Enforcer. I never said it was canon that Unforgiven is the final Man With No Name story, but that that is how I choose to interpret it. (I did say it was 'kinda like'" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest WrestlingDeacon Report post Posted December 11, 2002 Sudden Impact is actually my favorite film of the series and it makes a nice double bill with Eastwood's very underrated Tightrope from the following year. What I've heard critics say is that Unforgiven is what one could imagining happening to the Man with No Name, but really no direct corolation. All of Eastwood's westerns have edgy anti-heroes that were very counter to what has generally been popular in Westerns. I don't mind Thunderdome, but I find myself laughing at it more than anything and I don't think that was the intentions of the makers. It also comes off a lot more "polished" than the other two and I think a new sequel will most likely go even further down that glitzier path. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted December 11, 2002 One thing that will hold Fury Road back other than a shitty title is Gibson. He's old, he looks old, he acts old and he talks old. He's just not Mad Max and I don't see him being good as Mad Max any longer. The rumored 4th Indiana Jones has this same problem with Harrison Ford. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ravenbomb Report post Posted December 11, 2002 what's with all the Godfather 3 hate? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted December 11, 2002 You ask that as if Godfather 3 hate is something new. It's basically a universally hated movie and always has been. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Edwin MacPhisto Report post Posted December 11, 2002 It also comes off a lot more "polished" than the other two and I think a new sequel will most likely go even further down that glitzier path. That's my biggest worry. One of the best things about The Road Warrior is that it's crazified cars, weird cheap leather and metal stuff all slapped together, a lot of dirt, and a lot of genuine explosions. I do NOT want to see CG in the Road Warrior movies, period, but I'm sure we'll get that. To the person who said that they're worried about Gibson being too old: he's aged, but he strikes me as the type who's still got the spirit for it. Granted, $25 million will give anyone a little spirit, but if an old friend came up to me and said "We're gonna let you wear bad-ass leather outfits again and drive around crazy cars again and look like an utter bad-ass in front of millions of people," I'd be on that for maybe thirty bucks and free lunches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted December 12, 2002 I hope Mad Max 4 will not have Matrix style gun fights or kung fu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted December 12, 2002 Mad Max 4 will have all the "hottest action movie trends" so if you don't like it now...well don't build up your hope. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted December 12, 2002 They're supposed to be writing Indy 4 to deal with Jones getting older. It's supposed to take place long enough after the last film to take into account for Ford's older appearance. I think I remember reading that anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted December 12, 2002 If I want to see Yuen Woo Ping style then I will go to Daredevil, Charlie Angels 2, Matrix 2, Bullet Proof Monk.... Mad Max should not have to use HK style action, big ass explosions and villians in leather is what Mad Max is about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godthedog Report post Posted December 12, 2002 what's with all the Godfather 3 hate? *******SPOILER WARNING******** i've seen worse movies, but no movie has ever pissed me off more than godfather III, because: it pissed on the legacy of 2 of the greatest movies ever made. it felt ad-hoc in every sense of the term, wasn't at all true to the spirit or the look, & the development of every single character carried over from the previous 2 felt false and forced. coppola left us in part II with a picture of a man COMPLETELY unwilling to change in any way. now all of the sudden michael gets a conscience & wants to be legit and peaceful, cause he's "older and wiser"? we're suddenly supposed to feel empathy for him as a noble man even though he had his own brother killed, just cause he feels guilty about it? michael corleone's "development" from part II to part III was a total dumbing down of the character that killed all the complexity and originality. al pacino's lost acting talent didn't do the character any favors either. michael corleone in part II is one of the best performances i've ever seen in my life, clicking on all levels and amazing with this menacing kind of subtlety (remaining completely unknowable & stone-faced in all but two scenes). michael corleone in part III is a ham. pacino forgot completely how to be michael corleone and just played al pacino. subtlety and grace went completely out the window, in place of unneeded gestures and flashiness. i could go on & on about connie's implausible transformation into lady macbeth, andy garcia being completely out of place, sofia coppola stinking up her every ounce of screen time like the useless acting turd she was, & the superficial script, but i'll stop here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest WrestlingDeacon Report post Posted December 12, 2002 I can sit through Godfather 3, but it is way below the other two. Two things I can point out is that if felt a bit ad hoc and out of synch it was because the studio rushed the final edit on Coppolla so they could have it out by Christmas. Might not have helped too much, but editing have saved many a picture and is a Coppola strong suit. Michael was very straight arrow and had a lot of intergrity in the first film and I think that's what the character was harking back to here. It was Michael wanting to reclaim the person he was before he fell into the "family business." But that was never made too clear or heavily dealt with, so eh... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest C.H.U.D. Report post Posted December 14, 2002 I could take the lame "I'm not looking forward to this" mentality, but I'll take the high road by saying this is great news and I can't wait to see it. Just as long as they use real cars for the last chase, and not CGI. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cabbageboy Report post Posted December 15, 2002 In regards to Eastwood, you can't really associate his westerns as all being Man with No Name. Actually he DID have a name in even stuff like Fistful of Dollars. He was Joe in that. Manco (or something) in FAFDM, and Blondie in G,B,U. I don't consider stuff like High Plains Drifter to be Man with No Name simply because it wasn't the same basic character, certainly the films didn't have the same whacked out spaghetti western style. I think Gibson will want to do a Mad Max style of Max film, as in slam bang chases, cheesy heels, etc. I personally thought the original Mad Max was a laughable movie (though I saw a dubbed version), the sequels I thought were both really good. If you look at the Lethal Weapon series they don't have much in the way of computer effects either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted December 15, 2002 I hope Mad Max 4 will not have Matrix style gun fights or kung fu. I suppose the title "Fury Road" signels a return to Road Warrior-style action films, rather than the Speilbergian "Beyond Thunderdome". Oh and I don't associate ALL his westerns as being MWNN. But Clint considers High Plains Drifter and Pale Rider MWNN, so I do too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest WrestlingDeacon Report post Posted December 15, 2002 Fistful of Dollars and a Few Dollars More are considered directly from each other with the Good the Bad and the Ugly later being included in the trilogy. Then Eastwood continued the series with Pale Rider and High Plains Drifter. Officially there are considered to be five man with no name movies. Even though he had names in all the movies, it's part of the concept that the character was this sort of mystical ghost who assumed what identity suited him at the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted December 15, 2002 Fistful of Dollars and a Few Dollars More are considered directly from each other with the Good the Bad and the Ugly later being included in the trilogy. Then Eastwood continued the series with Pale Rider and High Plains Drifter. Officially there are considered to be five man with no name movies. Even though he had names in all the movies, it's part of the concept that the character was this sort of mystical ghost who assumed what identity suited him at the time. Well, he didn't have real names per se, they were nicknames. He was called "Gringo" "Blondie" "Preacher" etc. not real names. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
