Guest Redhawk Report post Posted December 14, 2002 The smart marks may not like them, but they might as well get used to them. They're young (well, mostly), unique-looking, and -- most importantly -- BIG HOSSES. So face the facts: They're going to get pushed at one point or another, whether you like it or not. Given that, what's the best way YOU would push these guys? 3-Minute Warning Albert / A-Train Batista Scott Steiner Test Kane Bradshaw (can't mention hosses w/o him) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ravenbomb Report post Posted December 14, 2002 I'd push them right out the door Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the pinjockey Report post Posted December 14, 2002 Get the couple months of top feuds out of Steiner while you can before he gets hurt or blows up. Even though he hasn't gotten the pops I expected he would push him and use him up quick kind of like Hogan earlier in the year. Batista could be a solid enforcer for a mid card group, nowhere near a potential horseman group. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted December 14, 2002 3-Minute Warning Keep them the way they are. Albert / A-Train Lower midcarder, occasional win. Batista See Albert Scott Steiner Upper midcarder Test Total Jobber. Make it clear that he is a jobber. Make Brooklyn Brawler-esque jokes when someone loses to him. Kane midcarder Bradshaw (can't mention hosses w/o him) aPa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Redhawk Report post Posted December 14, 2002 Anglesault, you missed the point. No matter what you or I want, these guys are GOING to be pushed. There's no fighting it. I just want to know HOW that inevitable push should happen so that it won't suck too much. For example, 3MW will be the Tag Team champions in the next year. So I'd book their push like this: Later on, after Booker/Goldust have had their tag title run and lose to Storm/Regal, turn 3MW into babyfaces. Why not? They're already like Too Cool x Two anyway. I think a babyface 3MW chasing Storm/Regal for a while and then eventually getting the big win (courtesy their new buddy Rikishi) would be alright. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the pinjockey Report post Posted December 14, 2002 The aPa was perfect for those two guys. Wrestle once a month to hide in ring weakness, get over through funny backstage skits, over enough to be transitional tag champs if need be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Respect The 'Taker Report post Posted December 14, 2002 Two words Pink Slips Illusion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MarvinisaLunatic Report post Posted December 14, 2002 3-Minute Warning -Make them a legit tag team instead of just having them wrestle whoever has a beef with Bischoff on a weekly basis. Albert / A-Train Give him a tag team partner and let em go after the Tag Titles on smackdown. I mean, theres virtually no established tag teams aside from the Guerreros on Smackdown. Batista Having him in some Flair managed stable wouldnt be all that bad. Scott Steiner Let him main event on RAW for a while, it couldn't hurt anything, and it would at least be a change from HHH vs HBK or HHH vs ??? on the RAW side of things. Test Argh. The humiliate Test thing is actually fun, but at some point he's either gotta get pushed high or dump the Testicles thing all together.. Kane No ideas.. Bradshaw (can't mention hosses w/o him) Hes hurt, don't know when he'll be back but I know its not anytime soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted December 14, 2002 Steiner should of Main Evented Raw the second he got signed Albert joins the white rappers 3mw curtain jerkers or Bischoff's personal enforcers, if you break the rules, the fat island boys will hurt you. Bradshaw has some unfinished business with Nowinski Test if only there was a midcard singles title, can tag with Kane Batista, no more squash matches, tag with Sean O'Haire in the midcard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest blachuuh_monkey Report post Posted December 14, 2002 Bradshaw and Kane were going to be a tag team before Bradshaw got injured so might as well stick with the idea when he returns. At least it will keep them from the main event most of the time. Batista, 3MW (if they get in better shape other wise get rid of them),and Orton could be a stable of Flair proteges and run rampid through the midcard until one of them breaks out as a star if it ever happens. Scott Steiner should main event on Raw for a couple of months until his star fades. Maybe he could win the title from HHH at the Rumble only to job it back to him just i time for his big WM match against Poochie because you know that is what will happen if Steiner was to win it. Test could be the babyface midcarder to fued with Flair's stable and possibly have a match with Flair after running through the group. He could possibly do a run against Jericho as well. Albert needs to wrestle Undertaker in an inferno match and accdentally get his bodyhair caught on fire causing him to get severe 3rd degree burns all over his body which force him to retire. God I fucking hate Albert. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest midnight_burn Report post Posted December 14, 2002 If they absolutely have to push Test (and it seems they do), then give him a push with something other than this 'Testicles' crap. It was stupid at first, and it's even worse now. It's so bad, even by Test push standards. For Kane, i don't know, the Katie Vick/HHH feud has just ruined him. He could have been a useful main event level wrestler when he first came back from his injury, but now he's not going to be much more than a midcarder. Steiner could be a fresh main event face right now, it's only a matter of time before he's hurt again, so get what you can from him now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest blachuuh_monkey Report post Posted December 14, 2002 Your are correct on everything Midnight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest creativename Report post Posted December 14, 2002 3MW I'd leave them as Bisch's enforcers, but give them more credibility. They have none after getting squashed in handicap matches by Show and Kane. This can only make their opponents in actual tag matches look bad. Don't know why people think these guys will get a push, or be eventual tag champs. I think they might not be around for much longer. They've been buried ever since the Patterson incident. Unfortunately, Rico's been buried with them. Albert Velocity. If he has to be pushed...have him beat Crash every now and then. Batista Mid-card singles wrestler. Give him a personality. No more squashes; the monster push will not get him over. Scott Steiner Raw champ. Won't last long anyway. Test Keep him as he was in his pre-testicle days, team him with Stacy, and no more cruiser squashes. Kane Can shuffle between mid-card and upper mid-card. The HurriKane tag team was a fine idea. Bradshaw Cut. Ron Simmons is a road agent now, so no more APA. His usefulness is done. If they have to push him...well...don't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jobber of the Week Report post Posted December 14, 2002 3-Minute Warning Keep them as they are, squashing Jeff, Spike, etc Albert / A-Train I hate to reference Russo booking, but make him the Tank Abbott to John Cena's 3Count. Batista Scott Steiner Well, so far, the guy hasn't done anything wrong, but I have 0% experience with WCW so.... Might as well main event him. Test Kane Ditch the mask and the kayfabe storyline, the Katie Vick shit destroyed it. Keep calling him Kane just because and keep the Hellfire And Brimstone or whatever. Bradshaw APA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted December 14, 2002 3-Minute Warning - The way they are. Nothing more, hopefully less. Albert / A-Train - If he bombs horribly, depush him rather than keep him stinking up things. Batista - The guy's a shitty worker. Ahmed Johnson shitty. Cut him loose. Scott Steiner - I'd expect a program with Jericho if they intend to follow that up. I don't think the Office would risk jumping into an angle with him. However, given the choice...uh...damn, are there ANY strong singles heels besides HHH? Test - Feed him jobbers (real jobbers, not Hurricane), and build him up, then feed him to a real star, like how Meng was used in WCW. Kane - Can anyone who isn't being forcibly shoved on the audience possibly survive the Katie Vick angle? I somehow doubt it. Other than taking him off TV for a while, I have no idea. Shame, because among the hosses he's got a rather decent workrate. Take him off TV for a while and try again. Bradshaw (can't mention hosses w/o him) - Same as Test. Team him with Test, and use their team the same way I suggested using Test as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted December 14, 2002 3MW-They get a tag title shot against Vitamin C, but Rico turns on them costing them their chance. Rico then become's CnC Wrestling Factory's manager/whatever, leading to a CnC victory over the fatsos, albeit giving Tubs of Fun a visual pinfall and revenge on Rico. Albert-Have him feud with another high-midcard level hoss like Rikishi for a couple weeks, then feed him to Edge. Batista-Keep doing what they're doing. Clean squash wins, and Flair to talk for him. Steiner-Hotshot the RAW belt to him now. Have him retain until the buzz dies down a little, then have him lose to Booker. Test-Upper Midcard babyface like with his run against Shane McMahon. Keep Stacy with him, drop the testicle nonsense, and get him a few wins over other big men. Maybe have him graze the ME level, but not quite make it. Kane-I don't care. Have him cut some really bizarre rambling promos about Katie Vick, and have him stalk HHH, then turn heel to ally himself with Trips, then turn him face again as it was all a ploy simply to get The Gheyme to drop his guard, but then have him turn heel again because he only went through crips to get to Shawn as payback for him never being thankful that he cost UT the HIAC. Then have him turn face again after losing the belt so he's goofy freak with attitude, only to job clean to Rico at WM 19. Bradshaw-Big dumb texan that likes to fight. No matches over 2 minutes, no opponents other than other hosses and jobbers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted December 14, 2002 3-Minute Warning Keep them as they are, squashing Jeff, Spike, etc Albert / A-Train I hate to reference Russo booking, but make him the Tank Abbott to John Cena's 3Count. Batista Scott Steiner Well, so far, the guy hasn't done anything wrong, but I have 0% experience with WCW so.... Might as well main event him. Test Kane Ditch the mask and the kayfabe storyline, the Katie Vick shit destroyed it. Keep calling him Kane just because and keep the Hellfire And Brimstone or whatever. Bradshaw APA. AHHHH!! Batista and Test on SD? Ugh, don't they have enough hosses there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evilhomer Report post Posted December 14, 2002 Bradshaw - Curtain jerker. The crowd loves him (for the most part), so put him out there to heat up the crowd. Albert - Mid-card monster. Give him a good win streak over a bunch of jobbers so that it actually seems meaninful when he jobs to someone with talent. Or my personal choice - pink slip attached to a catapult. 3MW - no idea. I haven't seen anything useful from these guys. Let them float around the weak tag division so that there are some actual established teams. Steiner - use him while you got him. Give him a main event push while he's still getting the pops. After his lowered ability is exposed and/or the injuries come, the chance will be gone. Kane/Test - Failed push after failed push. There's nothing there to do anything with. Batista - See Kane/Test. At least he's a fresh face, so give him a Kane push until he becomes stale. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted December 14, 2002 3-Minute Warning - Tag Ranks. Never win the titles, but get occasional wins. Albert / A-Train - If they're going to push him as a giganto monster, have him job to someone who can actually get over and benefit from the win (WWE Translation: He'll win KOTR 2003!) Batista - Put him with a manager that more suits his style, like a Raven. Or bring up some of his OVW cohorts and have them form some sort of Satan stable. Scott Steiner - Push him now before his foot falls off and we get Texas Tornado 2K3. Test - Comic relief. Kane - Have him put over new stars. Kane's never, ever going to be a true main eventer, so why keep trying? He better lose to Batista on sunday. Bradshaw - A non-wrestling role. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest midnight_burn Report post Posted December 14, 2002 I kinda feel sorry for Kane, the whole Katie Vick debacle was just career assassination for him, any usefulness he may have had being flushed down the toilet before our eyes. The HurriKanes team could be brought back, Kane isn't going to be a main eventer anytime soon, and Hurricane's just being squashed by Test every few weeks, so why not team them back together, they should still be able to be salvaged as a decent tag team, there are certainly worse combinations they could put together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zack Malibu Report post Posted December 14, 2002 3-Minute Warning These guys shouldn't be jobbed out the way they are. I can understand Rico aligning with Bischoff, but not managing these guys, it just doesn't fit. I would have them be a monster heel team (which they can rebuild on) with more of an emphasis on a "street" gimmick more than this Corporate Enforcers team. Honestly, they should have traded for Rikishi, remade him into "bad man" Rikishi again (with his leather jacket, sunglasses, etc.) and made a modernized version of the Samoan Swat Team. Albert / A-Train I can't stand him, but Heyman does have the reputation for making a lot out of a little. If they're serious on pushing him, do it gradually. You know he's going over Edge this Sunday too, so what does that say about the main eventers when a guy that used to get knocked for being on Velocity what, 3 weeks ago, is going over the future WWE Champion (it's inevitable). I wouldn't put Albert in any more of a role than enforcer/"big guy" tag partner. Matt Hardy could have injured Rey, and taken Albert on to protect him. We would have been better off. Batista Ah yes, Batista. He should still be Leviathan, because he had a cool look and is more marketable that way. That gimmick was built for the Kane feud. "Dave Batista" reeks of "Bill Goldberg", and so does this push. If they're intent on doing it however, they need him to a) drop the "Dave", b)turn on Flair, saying that he realizes Flair is trying to ride his coattails to success, and he doesn't need that. Having him go on a streak AGAINST Flair/Horsemen. We saw the "heel demolishes everyone" push with Brock this year, why not "badass face runs through everyone" with Batista? Scott Steiner See my "Booker T./Goldust" thread. Test Midcard babyface, similar to Albert in that he's better as the "big guy" who stands there and gets the hot tag. Kane Either put over new talent, or do the Raven/Kane deal once and for all to give both of them something new to do. Bradshaw Midcard tag team w/ Test, doing some type of rowdy, party boy gimmick. Not exactly workrate central, but gives them something to do. Give them a name too, don't just stick them together with no reasoning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BobBacklundRules Report post Posted December 14, 2002 3-Minute Warning: Drop Rico, Big Push Albert / A-Train: fired Batista: Lower midcarder, team up with O'Hare in the who looks more like the devil tag team Scott Steiner: Main-eventer, untill he od's on 'roids and goes nuts, then fire him Test: Lower midcarder, get rid of all the testicle jokes Kane: Upper midcarder, strike him by lightning and return him to the red retard gimmick Bradshaw: fire him, never liked the guy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EricMM Report post Posted December 14, 2002 Goes down the list: Indy... Indy... Indy..... Done! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted December 14, 2002 I can do you one better: Shot. Stabbed. Choked to death. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites