Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted December 18, 2002 3 Crusierweights = 1 Hoss. Glad to see the WWF has their priorities straight. I will withhold judgement of the Angle/Heyman thing until I see it on TV - but it shocked me, that's for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted December 18, 2002 Hunter was at SmackDown? Now why would he be there? Isn't he on RAW? OH MY~! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted December 18, 2002 Kurt, you stupid fucking dipshit. He couldn't just leave things the way they were. He had to start petitioning for changes and getting better workers, so they Jerichoed him. Total Pussy? Check Lackie? Check Gets his ass kicked by the challeneger? Check. Side bar to challeneger vs. Manager feud? Check. Well, i guess it makes Brock look good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted December 18, 2002 And look what they did to the better workers: Cruiserweights? Buried Benoit? Pushed aside Chavo? Velocity Eddy? Meaningless match Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted December 18, 2002 With the exception of Eddy, Angle has more value to the company than any of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted December 18, 2002 Ehh, what's more disturbing is Heyman's masturbatory booking. Unless his plan is to eventually turn Kurt face, after Mania, which is what the crowd's been looking for, this probably isn't going to work out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the pinjockey Report post Posted December 18, 2002 I am sorry I said I was tiring of the SD6 wrestling each other. Please put them back together if this is your plan for them, PLEASE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted December 18, 2002 The plan should be Angle and Brock kill Heyman at the Rumble, and build up to face/face at Mania, where Angle wins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted December 18, 2002 That should be the plan, without the killing Heyman. It should have been Brock won the title at Rumble after costing Angle the title and allowing Big Show to injure him. Then, when Angle wins the rumble Heyman tries to recruit him, to keep up his war with Brock but Angle refuses and Heyman goes after him and the contendership through Benoit for No Way Out. Simple, effective, and carries through the other feuds (Benoit/Angle, Brock/Heyman and Show) without losing focus on Mania. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted December 18, 2002 I predict that by Mania, his confusing Heyman feud with have Champion Heyman and manager Edge vs. arch enemy Matt hardy with Albert in his corner. Because after all, we need another 73 confusing turns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted December 18, 2002 I figure they never really turned him in the first place, somewhat like Rock in the beginning, so that after Mania when Angle turns on Heyman they'll cement him in the main event. But that still leaves the problem that Heyman is booking SmackDown around him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BobBacklundRules Report post Posted December 18, 2002 How are they going to get TBS out of the picture before mania, he's the only thing that would ruin the brock/angle match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted December 18, 2002 Easy. Jump the rail. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Celtic Jobber Report post Posted December 18, 2002 Match #3: Jamie Noble and Nunzio (w/ Nidia) vs. Crash and Bill DeMott - After everyone gets in the ring, Crash is just itching to get his hands on Noble and Nunzio, for what they did to him last week. But, Big Bill puts him in his place, and says he's starting the match, not Crash. Well, Bill DeMott just wiped the ring with those two, even doing a little comedy, making them tag each other, so he could beat up the other one for a while. It was pretty funny. Crash keeps begging for a tag, but instead DeMott goes up top, and nails a great-looking moonsault on Noble to win the match all by himself. After the match, Crash gets in the ring, and starts bitching out Nunzio and Noble, getting a little revenge in anyway. He goes to shake hands with DeMott, but Bill just clotheslines him, and proceeds to hit the moonsault on Crash as well. *Winner: Bill DeMott Jamie Noble is my favorite wrestler, Bill "Hugh Morrus, Gen. Rection, etc." DeMott is a low-rent version of Albert. God I hate WWE! I hope they go out of business soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NYCTA Bus No. PA1767 Report post Posted December 19, 2002 I am now convinced that nothing will satisfy you people. Let's see what you all have going way.... Angle as Heel Champ: Check Big Show looking confused and idiotic: Check Paul Heyman being excellent mouthpiece and writing compelling TV: Check A-Train not in the major title picture: Check That's three things you whiners have been clamoring about for months and one that was handled in relatively short time. As for Benoit, WHO CARES?!?!? The guy is boring and not very over. Who cares if he can wrestle? Kurt angle is over, can wrestle, and is entertaining. This whole damn storyline is entertaining and I'll take it over the continous and repetitive SD6 tag matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MarvinisaLunatic Report post Posted December 19, 2002 Angle Interview - Blah, nothing of interest except that Lesnar wanted the match tonight and well, that can't happen since he's got a non-title match with Benoit.. Big Show throws a fit in the back, grabs Heyman and looks like he wants to eat him or something. Show has blood on his knuckles, so he might have punched the locker a bit too hard.. Eddie Guerrero vs Billy Kidman - Chavo has a funny promo calling Kidman a cheater cheater cheater. Funniest sign - Eddie Guerrero mows his hair. Anyway short but decent match as Eddie wins with what started out looking like an Razor's Edge into a sit down powerbomb. Matt Hardy got attacked by some MFers (Mattitude Followers) at his hotel room and has a black eye. Mathemattics(?) lesson: Matt Hardy - 1 Black Eye > Brock Lesnar John Cena vs Chuck Palumbo - Palumbo is already in the ring, and out comes Cena, who talks about the girls wanting his lucky charms and how he would never root for the "queer" buccaneers as hes a Patriots fan. Pretty crappy match, with Cena winning with a handful of tights (or not). Torrie/Dawn/Al Wilson segment - the start off with showing everything thats led up to tonight including a brief clip from the PPV footage. Crowd was totally dead when Dawn was talking (Alsy Wowsy?) and anyway, they apparently are getting married in 2 weeks LIVE(?) on Smackdown. Ha ha, I guess I don't have to worry about seeing that if its live.. Retro RAW - Feb 18th, 2002 Rock and Hogan confrontation.. Matt Hardy vs Brock Lesnar -Matt has wrestled in 44 States Shannon Moore comes out in a V1 Shirt. Matt Hardy has apparently gotten something in his eye and can't see at all now so Shannon Moore gets to wrestle Lesnar. Lesnar manhandles him and then gives him a Double F-5 (spinning F-5) and after the match, Matt gets an F-5 too. Stephanie orders Kurt to go back out to the ring and set the record straight... Back from the break, Kurts already in the ring..Kurt still has his 3 I's. Kurt would love to wrestle Benoit AND Lesnar tonight, but he can't. Kurt is no one's fool. Kurt got himself a manager...Paul Heyman..hmm..Funny Sign "Shave the Skullet"..Heyman goes over the whole plan to screw Lesnar again. Why this doesn't make sense is because he screwed Big Show as well..No Angle Lesnar match next week...Out comes Show whos mad with his big beady eyes..Angle was gonna belt shot him, but Show turned around and Angle ducked back. Kurt vs Big Show next week? Jamie Knoble and Nunzio (With Italian tights) vs Crash and Bill Demott. For some reason Demott reminds me of the Oxyclean guy. Demott pretty much squashes them both and doesn't tag in crash. Crash starts to celebrate and then clotheslines crash and gives him a moonsault. Ernest Miller interviews Edge. Someone better call his momma or something.. Edge vs the A Train - Funny Sign "Edge - Shave his back" Back and forth, with Albert specifically targeting Edge's knee but it doesn't phase him as usual. Edge gets the spear for the win. Josh Matthews has a moment with Brock Lesnar in the back. Kurt Angle vs Chris Benoit (non title) Match of the Night (as it should be..its Benoit vs Angle..) Cole and Tazz run down Kurt Angle throughout the whole match. Angle has a closeup with snot coming out of his nose..so Angle gets the snot knocked out of him, and then all hell breaks loose with Big Show and Brock Lesnar coming out. Cole: "Kick his (Heyman's) ass Brock ! Kick his ass!" Eventually Angle and Show get the advantage..Angle Slam and a Choke Slam on Lesnar.. In short, the swerve of the night (Heyman with Angle) doesn't make any sense, and there was only 2 good matches with the rest being squashes or just not good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Spaceman Spiff Report post Posted December 19, 2002 So, is Eddy cruiser champ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nikowwf Report post Posted December 19, 2002 So Angle is heel champ, Big Show is out of title picture, Angle will main event Rumble vs. Benoit, Angle has a ready made feud against the #1 face on smackdown set up for wrestlemania, and the Albert push has died a quick death. People were unhappy Angle asked for Brock's help. It turns out he totally fooled him and now screws him out of a title shot. So people are unhappy about that too. I know the booking is bad most of the time, but when they do something that even remotely looks interesting everyone nitpicks it to death. Niko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EternallyLazy Report post Posted December 19, 2002 Hey, I've got a revolutionary idea! Why don't you guys wait until, oh I don't know, the angle to actually play out a little while before you start bashing it? Smackdown hasn't even fucking aired yet and you guys are already jumping on it for it's lack of logic... which I find incredibly funny because the whole thing looks, from what I've read, more logical then most of the shit that we've been given, not to mention that this is professional wrestling and logic is hard to come by and has been hard to come by since the very beginning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted December 19, 2002 Mania when Angle turns on Heyman they'll cement him in the main event. Just like Beating Austin was gonna cement him? and Then when he beat Hogan, he was "cemented" Or how the Vengence feud cemented him? Or the benoit feud, that was going to cement them both. And then beating Pig Show was going to cement him. BUT THEY KEEP SENDING HIM BACK TO THE MIDCARD! Kurt angle is over, can wrestle, and is entertaining. This whole damn storyline is entertaining Angle is also a coward pussy lackey loser gets his ass kicked transitional champion. THROW a PARTY! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted December 19, 2002 Hey, I've got a revolutionary idea! Why don't you guys wait until, oh I don't know, the angle to actually play out a little while before you start bashing it? I can't think of a single way that Angle being a coward pussy lackey loser gets his ass kicked transitional champion can be good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Repo Man jr Report post Posted December 19, 2002 Hey, I've got a revolutionary idea! Why don't you guys wait until, oh I don't know, the angle to actually play out a little while before you start bashing it? I can't think of a single way that Angle being a coward pussy lackey loser gets his ass kicked transitional champion can be good. It's good for Brock! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EternallyLazy Report post Posted December 19, 2002 Hey, I've got a revolutionary idea! Why don't you guys wait until, oh I don't know, the angle to actually play out a little while before you start bashing it? I can't think of a single way that Angle being a coward pussy lackey loser gets his ass kicked transitional champion can be good. Ric Flair... Enough said Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted December 19, 2002 Ric Flair would win the belt back in a timely fashion (Usually) Angle doesn't. Ric Flair is also a legend and the greatest wrestler ever. Angle isn't. And I'm not that up with WCW/NWA history, but who was Flair a bumbling lackey to? He certainly led stables, but when was he a sidebar to a manager wrestler feud (This is eerily like Jericho last year) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2002 Ric Flair would win the belt back in a timely fashion (Usually) Angle doesn't. Ric Flair is also a legend and the greatest wrestler ever. Angle isn't. Ric Flair is a legend NOW...he wasn't when he was first doing that. And most of the time the reason he would get the belt back in timely fashion was because he either was or was close to a booker. Angle is showing humility by not being champion all the time, if you ask me. And comparing their in-ring careers...with the amount of years that Kurt has been in the business...he's already done more than Ric Flair did in the same amount of time, IIRC. So I still don't see why you put Angle and Flair in different boats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted December 19, 2002 I disagree with one part of that. I certainly at least partially remember Flair sold as a living legend, future hall of famer, etc etc etc, thoughout mid-late nineties, so I do think the fans were made aware of greatness while he was wrestling. Angle is showing humility by not being champion all the time, if you ask me. Yeah, because Angle decides when he's champion. Anyway, Angle may not be the answer, but they haven't even tried him, and his humility aint saving the company. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EternallyLazy Report post Posted December 19, 2002 When you break it down Sault, you gotta look at it like this Angle: Bumps for everyone... makes them look like supermen. Cheats to win. Incites heat because of that. Flair: Bumps for everyone... makes them look like supermen. Cheats to win. Incites heat because of that The only difference is Flair is a living legend and Angle is a coward pussy lackey loser? How does this make sense? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted December 19, 2002 You know, I think it's that I'm just not satisfied with them making Angle a supporting player and steping stone, while every single guy that they have above him is unworthy. It just bothers me that they can't find a better way yo use the guy. He really should be the future of the company, not the guy they are pushing now. Why are they using Angle as a stepping stone for guys like Edge and Brock? (Obviously, the Edge thing stalled) ANGLE should be the guy they are pushing instead of them. He's better than them in every way. As for Flair, he's special. Can you really name that many other cowardly losers who got very far? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I *heart* Stacy Report post Posted December 19, 2002 I thought Angle was turning face?? I guess Albert didn't impress with his heel work. It's up to Hugh Morrus now to live up to the massive heel hoss push. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted December 19, 2002 Edge has no world title reigns and Angle has ... what? .... Three or four now? Oh yeah, Edge is being pushed WAYYYYY over the top of Angle. So Angle did some jobs, he's wrestling once a week against the same pool of competetion for years. He cannot win every time out even if he is World Champion right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites