Did Dr. Tom Actually Watch SmackDown?

[Guest Goodear]

Edge dragged a watchable match out of A-Train, and with someone better across from him, would have put on a quite decent match.

 

What? What? WHAT? I feel like Steve Austin here. But Edge didn't drag anything out of anyone on SmackDown. I'll say what I said in other threads, this was quite possibly Edge's worst match EVER. And it wasn't because of A-Train! And I like Edge! I have to the way I end up defending him all the time. But that match was the drizzling crap with Edge no selling the whole time even as A-Train despirately tried to use some rather basic psychology. Edge was horrible on Smackdown... horrible!

[Guest Ram]

I'd agree. The match was sadly only watchable because of the fat hairy guy.

[Guest Samurai_Goat]

All I have to say is: If we cut off Alberts arms, he'd look like a really hairy Venus de Milo. With some added pounds. And piercings.

[Guest Anglesault]

I have to say this. If you gave Albert a tennis racket, h'd look like Venus Williams.

 

Anyway, Can you BLAME Edge? If politicks forced me into a feud with Albert, I'd be furious.

[Guest godthedog]

actually, i kind of enjoyed the match myself. edge's selling of the leg is still better than anything rob van damn has ever done, the whole thing built up to a crescendo pretty nicely, good timing of the near-falls. i was entertained by it.

[Guest papacita]

actually, i kind of enjoyed the match myself. edge's selling of the leg is still better than anything rob van damn has ever done, the whole thing built up to a crescendo pretty nicely, good timing of the near-falls. i was entertained by it.

What he said.

[Guest RickyChosyu]

Now we're complimenting Edge because he sell better than Rob Van Dam? What the hell is this? A competition of most backhanded compliments?

 

His selling is terrible. He sells it like death for a few seconds, gets up, and *presto* bai bai injury. It's the deffinitive "I'll sell when it's convenient, dammit!" style, and it blows. Edge's offense is limited to the point that he just does his thing even when he's supposed to be conveying an injury.

 

And what near falls? Neither guy got much of anything in that regard, and any near falls they did get weren't built up in the least, what with Edge flipping back and forth between his "two ways to sell the leg" and Albert being a big fat chode as usual.

 

"Good worker Edge" never really existed, me thinks.

[Guest Downhome]

I've never been a big fan of Edge either, and I have no idea what so many see in him. Not only does he look like a moron who I don't know I could EVER taker seriously in the Main Events, but he is just horrible at selling. You all know what I mean, but I will not get into it. Last night, if you ask me, A-Train carried Edge, period. I was impressed by Albert, and was very pleased at his attempt at psychology, and working over Edge. Edge however went and was apparently TRYING to make Albert's attempts worthless, and it made me very, VERY mad.

[Guest TheyCallMeMark]

A-train carried Edge my ass. Notice how he didn't do anything? At all? Oh, except lock on two boston crabs at a point in the match that would force Edge to no sell them because he was booked to win. As far as the selling goes, I didn't think it was all that bad. The match wouldn't have been great, so he forwent selling to the highest possible degree so he could get some good moves in and break up the retarded monotany of Albert's weak power offense. At least after he used to leg moves, he sold it like it hurt him.

[Guest Ace309]

Albert was using rudimentary psychology. Good for him, good to see it.

 

Edge: "My knee is being hacked off. Hm. Kick. Kick. Kick. Feelin' fine. Land safely on ass... hmm, better sell the leg." *convulse*

[Guest Ace309]

Oh, and Albert's half-crab was sweet.

[Guest deadbeater]

I have to say this. If you gave Albert a tennis racket, h'd look like Venus Williams.

Um, Anglesault, have you seen any Black person in your life you like? Venus looks like Albert, really now?

 

Also, there is no way that spear should work. Edge relies on speed to make it work, and gimpy leg reduces speed a lot. In comparison in the last Heat match before the upcoming one, Molly was able to credibly no-sell the DDT because Jacqueline with her leg being worked over couldn't drive her down to the mat with as much authority.

[Guest Edwin MacPhisto]

I enjoyed Edge/Albert, but noticed quite a few problems. Not only with Edge's selling, but with his dopey move selection.

 

"My leg hurts a lot cause the big man sat on it.

 

...

 

I think I'll do a missile dropkick! Whee!"

 

::dropkick::

 

"Ow, my leg! Shoulda thought of that!"

 

I also didn't think the spear was the right finish for the match. At least let Albert go down to the Implant DDT.

 

Final thought: Albert would have won the match two minutes in if he'd just sat down entirely on Edge while doing the half-crab. Silly chubby man.

[Guest Anglesault]

Edge however went and was apparently TRYING to make Albert's attempts worthless, and it made me very, VERY mad.

Good for him. It was a fuck you to the WWF. The SD!6 should do that. Everytime management sticks them in with a Hoss, they should put in the worst possible performance. Eventually, Management will get the hint and kill the hoss pushes.

 

Um, Anglesault, have you seen any Black person in your life you like? Venus looks like Albert, really now?

 

Are you calling me racist? Black, White, green yellow grey, I don't give a fuck, Venus and Serena Williams are two of the ugliest women on earth. I don't care what color they are. They're just fucking homely.

[Guest CanadianChick]

Where is the evidence that Edge tried to make Albert look bad? To me, Edge was selling for him and making the match watchable.

[Guest papacita]

Are you calling me racist? Black, White, green yellow grey, I don't give a fuck, Venus and Serena Williams are two of the ugliest women on earth. I don't care what color they are. They're just fucking homely.

I agree with you about Venus, but Serena's not that bad looking.

[Guest Downhome]

Good for him. It was a fuck you to the WWF. The SD!6 should do that. Everytime management sticks them in with a Hoss, they should put in the worst possible performance. Eventually, Management will get the hint and kill the hoss pushes.

Are you crazy? I don't care who it is, ANYONE who tries to make someone look bad on purpose, should be punished in the most severe way. I don't care if it's HHH, Angle, Jericho, Edge, Funaki, or ANYONE.

 

If you want people to start acting like assholes, well good for you, but that would be worse than them trying to push people like Albert.

 

On a side note, I do not think Edge was doing that on purpose, unless you does it on purpose in every match, because he did nothing really different last night, he just did it more so.

[Guest Bob Van Darn]

I have to say this. If you gave Albert a tennis racket, h'd look like Venus Williams.

 

This is wrong on so many levels.

[Guest dreamer420]

Edge however went and was apparently TRYING to make Albert's attempts worthless, and it made me very, VERY mad.

Good for him. It was a fuck you to the WWF. The SD!6 should do that. Everytime management sticks them in with a Hoss, they should put in the worst possible performance. Eventually, Management will get the hint and kill the hoss pushes.

That is not being professional. I dare one of them to try it and they will have their ass fired so fast it will make you head spin. If I give you a dollar, could you run to the corner store and grab a clue?

[Guest RickyChosyu]

Ugh....

 

There was no "carrying" going on in that match. Sure, A-Train tried to take the match somewhere, but his attempts to make the leg a focal point were just as half-hearted as Edge's. He didn't use it as a way to turn the tides, he never made the work seem like it would, you know, affect the match. If the leg isn't going to get him the win, or dissable Edge's offense, why do it at all? A good amount of that is Edge's fault, but if Albert was shit in the ring, too. If he were "carrying" Edge at all, he's be able to salvage something. Instead, his completely vapid work sank the match further.

 

Bad work from both guys = bad match.

[Guest CanadianChick]

I know the match pretty much sucked, but this is being overexaggerated. It was just one bad match. If someone else had this match with Albert, I bet it wouldn't be made this big of a deal. I know there probably wouldn't be a thread about it. Throw Angle in there and people would be praising him for carrying Albert to a decent match.

[Guest Anglesault]

Good for him. It was a fuck you to the WWF. The SD!6 should do that. Everytime management sticks them in with a Hoss, they should put in the worst possible performance. Eventually, Management will get the hint and kill the hoss pushes.

Are you crazy? I don't care who it is, ANYONE who tries to make someone look bad on purpose, should be punished in the most severe way. I don't care if it's HHH, Angle, Jericho, Edge, Funaki, or ANYONE.

Yeah, that came out wrong. I don't necessarily mean dog it, I mean let the hosses carry their weight. Don't go out of your way to carry them.

 

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I have to say this. If you gave Albert a tennis racket, h'd look like Venus Williams.

 

 

This is wrong on so many levels.

why.

[Guest RickyChosyu]

I know the match pretty much sucked, but this is being overexaggerated. It was just one bad match.

 

*nod* This is nothing new for the WWE. Selling and building a logical storyline have always taken a back seat to hitting "big moment" spots and being "intense."

 

If someone else had this match with Albert, I bet it wouldn't be made this big of a deal.

 

It's backlash because everyone has been calling him a great worker for the past few months.

 

I know there probably wouldn't be a thread about it. Throw Angle in there and people would be praising him for carrying Albert to a decent match.

 

Hahah. Good point. Angle is getting the Jesus treatment by his fan boys just like Flair and Michaels got it. "Can't have a bad match, anytime a match seems bad, just remember, it would have been ten times worse if Flair/Michaels/Angle hadn't been in there to salvage it." I enjoy Angle, but he's not flawless in the ring either, and anytime a match happens to expose those limitations it's always his opponent's fault. Double standards are stupid.

[Guest CanadianChick]

It's backlash because everyone has been calling him a great worker for the past few months.

People in general or on this board? Because all I've heard on this board is how Edge is carried all the time and is only good because of the people around him. Sure, he looks better with the great workers around him, but it takes two people to have a great match.

 

I know there probably wouldn't be a thread about it. Throw Angle in there and people would be praising him for carrying Albert to a decent match.

 

Hahah. Good point. Angle is getting the Jesus treatment by his fan boys just like Flair and Michaels got it. "Can't have a bad match, anytime a match seems bad, just remember, it would have been ten times worse if Flair/Michaels/Angle hadn't been in there to salvage it." I enjoy Angle, but he's not flawless in the ring either, and anytime a match happens to expose those limitations it's always his opponent's fault. Double standards are stupid.

 

Thank you! The double standards with smark-favorites compared to non-smark-favorites is pretty irratating at times.

[Guest NYCTA Bus No. PA1767]

What the hell are you talking about? Edge may not be getting the Jesus treatment, but he's far from hated. Besides, if people are saying A-Train of all people carried him to a watchable match, perhaps he was actually off his game that night.

[Guest Bob Van Darn]

Maybe Tom copied Scott Keith's SD review, where he said Edge carried the match. OMG~!

[Guest AndrewTS]

The match sucked. Dr. Tom and Keith somehow didn't bother to point it out. However, Edge was mainly at fault, and apparently those two didn't get their shit together and actually have a plan for the match.

 

So, the match sucked. Something we can all agree on.

[Guest Bob Van Darn]

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I have to say this. If you gave Albert a tennis racket, h'd look like Venus Williams.

 

 

This is wrong on so many levels.

why.

They're faces look nothing alike. Venus has no body hair. Venus has talent. Venus tries.

 

Please don't bring tennis into your otherwise highly enjoyable trolling. Thanks.

[Guest AndrewTS]

One of these days I'm just wondering if AS is going to go too far and get banned. *I*

 

Although...yeah, that comment was unwarranted.

[Guest RickyChosyu]

"People in general or on this board? Because all I've heard on this board is how Edge is carried all the time and is only good because of the people around him. Sure, he looks better with the great workers around him, but it takes two people to have a great match."

 

Yeah, but that didn't stop people from nominating his matches with Angle and Guererro for MOTYC and such. Yeah, most of the time they did it with the usual idea that Kurt and Eddy were carrying the match, but his association with the net favorites has gotten a lot of people to call him a good worker, which he obviously is not. Just like Angle, he has incorperated all the flaws of the WWE style into his work to fit it's constraits, and his work suffers as a result.

 

"Thank you! The double standards with smark-favorites compared to non-smark-favorites is pretty irratating at times."

 

Yeah. There's always a poster-boy for "underutalized talent" or something, regardless of how concrete the claims may be. But what can you do.