Miracleman Scans

[Guest Luke Cage]

Right here

 

The first four issues are missing, but for anyone who would like to read the rest of 'em, here they are.

[Guest HellSpawn]

Two questions for all...

 

1] Is that really soo great this Miracleman book?

 

2] What is your opinion 'bout the whole McFarlane / Gaiman issue?

 

I read some post in the Spawn forum about people almost threating Todd because he is not reprinting MM, but recently, and thats was a f'n lucky thing, I find one Wizard article about Gaiman, and he said HE is the one who has the negatives, he is the one who can reprint the whole series, he is the one who has new material, if my memory is good, he spoke about MM #26. And Some guy of TMP in the forum said they only can use the character for future stories, thats why they used it in HS#6 (I think), but they cant reprint stories, in fact he said that TMP dont even know where are the negatives.

 

 

IMO, I think this whole issue it was mostly because Mr.Sandman wanted to publish MM and used the Spawn owner rights to fight and take off of TM. And then bitch about it and bitch about the creation of most of Spawn mythos.

[Guest areacode212]

Hey, this is pretty awesome. Hopefully they'll still be there to download tomorrow.

[Guest Luke Cage]

Two questions for all...

 

1] Is that really soo great this Miracleman book?

IMO, Alan Moore's deconstruction of the american superhero (MM and Watchmen) is/was the inspiration for some (most?) of the superhero comics that are being published today.

Here was a writer who could present situations that were originally designed for children and make them palatable for adults. Many writers these days seem to be trying to follow his example.

And now, we have a problem.

 

Miracleman was memorable because it was special. At the time there weren't many regular comics that attempted to deal with superheroes in a mature fashion . Bill Willingham is the only other creator that comes to mind (His Elementals was the precursor to The Authority in many ways.) who tried. After MM and WM, came the so called "grim and gritty" age. While GnG may have appealed to people who grew up on comics, it may have also succeeded in alienating those who could have grown INTO comics.

 

I'm not saying that sh comics shouldn't have SOME appeal for adults. What I am saying is that the target audience should be kids.

 

Now it seems that many superhero comicbooks are dark, brooding and "mature". Maybe it's time for someone to find a way to make superheroes FUN again. Lord knows the industry needs to attract new readers. If only the industry leaders had the courage to wrest superheroes away from the grown-ups and give them back to the kids...

[Guest J*ingus]

Damn, Luke Cage, I owe you big-time bro. I just read the whole thing, and it was awesome. Moore is, quite literally, inhuman. He thinks at a higher level than the rest of us, or at least myself.

[Guest Luke Cage]

Damn, Luke Cage, I owe you big-time bro. I just read the whole thing, and it was awesome. Moore is, quite literally, inhuman. He thinks at a higher level than the rest of us, or at least myself.

I only wish the first four issues were available as well. The sequence where Mike Moran remembers that he can become Miracleman was quite memorable. Who among us doesn't wish we could say a magic word and become perfect?

 

Kimota!

 

Kimota!

 

KIMOTA!!!...

 

Damn, still doesn't work...

[Guest J*ingus]

Wow, I just finally noticed where that word came from, heh.

 

Also, the series didn't end at 16, it went on to issue #24 (and an unreleased 25), although 16 is a good stopping place.

[Guest Luke Cage]

I have the Gaiman issues. They were good, but IMO, the Alan Moore run ended our peek into the MM world. The NG stories had an "And then..." feel to them. Not knocking them, sometimes stories should just end, ya know?

[Guest Sassquatch]

1] Is that really soo great this Miracleman book?

 

Miracleman when it first came out in the States, broke the mold for how a super hero and their book should be done. Moore took out the element of having a new super villain in every book out and made his run into a multi-chapter series that encompassed every issue from his run. This was not the vase with most of the comic books in America and when the fans were shocked to find out after issue #3 that MM would not be facing off with a new villain, the fans did not know what to think.

 

Issue #2 was what grabbed everyone's interest and is one of the most overlooked books in the series. Miracleman's confrontation with Kid Miracleman after the Kid had been stuck in his KM persona which became corrupted after years of dirty dealings and witnessing the horros of life in general, got fans buzzing. While this fight was not as horrific or as violent as their rematch in Miracleman #15, it got the ball rolling. The former sidekick who spat on everything he once believed in verseus his former mentor and in some ways father figure grabbed the fans. It was only the 2nd issue into the series but the meaning behind the fight and the circumstances that led up to it caused fans to want to see more.

 

After the first 3 issues, it was clear that Eclipse had a winner on their hands and they went out of their way to get Miracleman coverage and it worked because word spread through the grape vine and soon MM was selling out everywhere it was spotted at. Eclipse did not over print the series which meant that there was a very small amount of copies put out which caused a frenzy amongst collectors and fans alike.

 

Miracleman was not your father's super hero and this caught on with older fans in the range of 18 - 36 who had predominanlt stayed away from buying comic books as it had been deemed to "childish" or "unintelligent" for them. Everyone thought that Marvel Comics' Uncanny X-Men was "too mature" for the direct market. Miracleman took that concept to a whole new level that many insiders thought at the time would be the death knell for the series. Moore crafted a book that had extreme amounts of sexual activity and violence in it but he wrote it all in such a way that wasn't looked at as some gratuitous slime due to how integral the violence and sex was to the book. This book was not living out some sick pervert's dream nor was it dumbing things down for the sheltered fans who grew up with Superman in the '50's and got caught up in the wave of comic book hatred that had swept the country.

 

Miracleman brought back the grittiness and maturity to comic books that had long been thought lost decades ago which gave fans something to point to when discussing how comic books could be read by people of all ages and not just children.

 

2] What is your opinion 'bout the whole McFarlane / Gaiman issue?

 

It boils down to Toad making promises to Neil that he broke and later on lied about and now it looks like justice will prevail. Fans might finally be able to finish reading Gaiman's "Silver Age" story that he has had waiting to be completed for almost 10 years now.