Announcement to the SWF

[Guest Thoth]

To the SWF:

 

As you may have noticed by now, Stubby is no longer modded. Hopefully, this is only a temporary situation.

 

This is one part of a plan that came to be as a result of a consensus reaction to the state of the SWF. I believe this can be rectified by increasing the amount of bookers.

 

As of right now, the Suicide King is co-head booker. Not assistant booker. Co-head booker. In addition, I have been in contact with a few people who are interested in assistant booking. If need be, I will name them when appropriate.

 

Stubby was given the opportunity to negotiate; King PMed him with this same proposal. I received no PM before the end of the PPV. Thusly, he has been demodded for two reasons.

 

One: To minimize damage.

Two: To show that he does not have ultimate power.

 

So it stands like this: Stubby can accept the fact that he will have someone to work with on an equal level. To communicate with well and efficiently. If they have any disputes, to resolve them equivically. At which point, he will be remodded.

 

Or, he can go home.

 

The choice is his.

 

Thank you.

[Guest 5_moves_of_doom]

Ahem.

 

(Y)

[Guest BA_Baracus]

What the fuck is wrong with you?

 

Couldn't someone have oh, I don't know...PMed me with this beforehand?

 

I get absolutely nothing...no PMs from you, or the other bastards behind this...then you chickenshits make King send me some sort of vague PM and I don't respond right away you de-mod me? Huh?

 

I like how you assholes decided it would be okay if I did all the work and posted the show before you fuck me over...just like I've been doing for the last 2 years. Every fucking Friday and Monday I'm here writing cards, posting shows, reading your PMs, keeping storylines straight and this is the thanks I get?

 

You don't even have the common fucking courtesy to PM me with your concerns before you do this? I mean...what the fuck is this all about, because I have no fucking idea. It can't be because I don't listen to what people have to say, since every fucking match on this card except one was set up by you guys.

 

I mean...who's behind this...Thoth, Sacred? Two fuckwits who no-show 2 or 3 times for every time you write? Whatever.

 

I should have guessed that after 2 years of booking hundreds of cards for you, spending hundreds of my own personal time for fucking free and making sure this place didn't go under when IGN went insider would end with a nice big dick up my ass.

 

Fine...have the place you selfish fucks. I don't want to be associated with a bunch of assholes who don't have the balls or respect to tell me what their problems are to my face after I sacrificed 2 years of my time for them. In short, fuck off...at least I won't be the one in charge when this shithole dies.

[Guest Thoth]

I didn't PM you with anything beforehand because you'd squash it like a bug. LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE WE SUGGEST TO YOU.

 

We still don't have 3 shows every two weeks.

 

I gave you 3 days to respond. THREE DAYS.

 

Obviously you can't handle being stripped of your power for just a second. Can't accept the fact that you don't run the show.

 

I don't want you to leave. For all your shortcomings, you have been with us for a long time.

 

But you can be replaced.

 

And as for spending your free time doing this? We all do it too. And we spend a hell of a lot more time doing this than you.

[Guest 5_moves_of_doom]

What the fuck is wrong with you?

 

Couldn't someone have oh, I don't know...PMed me with this beforehand?

 

I get absolutely nothing...no PMs from you, or the other bastards behind this...then you chickenshits make King send me some sort of vague PM and I don't respond right away you de-mod me? Huh?

 

I like how you assholes decided it would be okay if I did all the work and posted the show before you fuck me over...just like I've been doing for the last 2 years. Every fucking Friday and Monday I'm here writing cards, posting shows, reading your PMs, keeping storylines straight and this is the thanks I get?

 

You don't even have the common fucking courtesy to PM me with your concerns before you do this? I mean...what the fuck is this all about, because I have no fucking idea. It can't be because I don't listen to what people have to say, since every fucking match on this card except one was set up by you guys.

 

I mean...who's behind this...Thoth, Sacred? Two fuckwits who no-show 2 or 3 times for every time you write? Whatever.

 

I should have guessed that after 2 years of booking hundreds of cards for you, spending hundreds of my own personal time for fucking free and making sure this place didn't go under when IGN went insider would end with a nice big dick up my ass.

 

Fine...have the place you selfish fucks. I don't want to be associated with a bunch of assholes who don't have the balls or respect to tell me what their problems are to my face after I sacrificed 2 years of my time for them. In short, fuck off...at least I won't be the one in charge when this shithole dies.

...Hmmm... you have a point.

 

1.) Sorry for not being more BLATANT when Silent and I and Z and TBS and Muzz and everyone else in existance complained about you, and you just deleted thread after thread, complaint after complaint.

 

2.) Sorry for not realizing that you were a total ass earlier on, and demodding you so that you wouldn't stick around for two fucking years.

 

andd....

 

3.) Sorry for not being thankful enough.

 

So, thanks for a good two years... but if the people say that you must leave, then you must leave, so ta-ta you bitching Commi-Nazi, you!

 

- Taylor "Just KNOWS that Stubby Will Come Back Into Power And Take Out His Anger On TNT SOME Day..." Thompson

[Guest 5_moves_of_doom]

I didn't PM you with anything beforehand because you'd squash it like a bug. LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE WE SUGGEST TO YOU.

 

We still don't have 3 shows every two weeks.

 

I gave you 3 days to respond. THREE DAYS.

 

Obviously you can't handle being stripped of your power for just a second. Can't accept the fact that you don't run the show.

 

I don't want you to leave. For all your shortcomings, you have been with us for a long time.

 

But you can be replaced.

 

And as for spending your free time doing this? We all do it too. And we spend a hell of a lot more time doing this than you.

Hmm, I suppose that Thothochi phrased it even better than I...

 

I mean, you WERE a good booker, just a power-hungry ass. I mean, the fact that you totally when out in a frenzy of flames and bitching and whining and pissing and moaning totally proved our point [not that when I say "our" I don't mean that *I* was in on this, though I gladly would have been.] So... well, yeah. We offer you a chance to work as a 50/50 co-booker... and you shoot it down because you just HAVE to be Hitler. Riiiight...

[Guest BA_Baracus]

I didn't PM you with anything beforehand because you'd squash it like a bug. LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE WE SUGGEST TO YOU.

 

Oh yeah...that's why this entire show was booked by you guys basically.

 

We still don't have 3 shows every two weeks.

 

Many people don't want that and if the load is to heavy I do cancel and re-schedule shows.

 

I gave you 3 days to respond. THREE DAYS.

 

First off...you didn't tell me to respond, who to respond to, what the problem was, what you were going to do if I didn't and you didn't even PM me yourself!

 

And as for spending your free time doing this? We all do it too. And we spend a hell of a lot more time doing this than you.

 

What I fucking load! Damn...you must spend a fucking hell of a lot of time on those 2 shitty matches you write a month if it's equal to running this place for 2 solid years.

 

But whatever...you're obviously comitted to be a fucking prick. I'm actually sorry I spent so much time on this place if all you guys did was resent me the whole time. Whatever...happy fucking Christmas.

 

Shut your hole TNT...you're a fucking nobody who doesn't even participate anymore. Also I have no problem with a co-booker...I've had several in the past...just the disrespectful bullshit method you went about bringing up the issue.

[Guest realitycheck]

I know I'm just echoing what TNT and Thoth have said, but fuck it.

 

Note to Stubby: We complained like sivs every few months when we sick and tired of lame-duck booking, late cards and late shows. The sad fact of the matter is that you wouldn't listen.

 

Don't you dare blame us for never telling you any of the problems we had. None of us even hesitated. Did you even read any of those 'flamewars' on the boards we had about the problems we had with you? Did you? Every problem we had was brought up clear and concise, in plain English, in plain text. Obviously bothering to waste your time on any of our concerns is too much of a hassle.

 

It was too chaotic and out of order, you say? Bullshit. A few months ago, I wrote up a detailed, orderly list of everything I thought was wrong with the fed. I sent it to Thugg. He posted it on the CC board. You didn't even dignify it with a response. Of course, I expected you to shoot down the booking committe idea I proposed, but I that wasn't a legitimate concern because you didn't even fucking read the thing.

 

And as far as "spending hundreds of hours posting shows and making cards" for us goes... well boo fucking hoo. HOW many people offered to help you with booking, Stubby? Do you even REMEMBER? I'm not talking people who were still active at the time, I'm talking legitimate, qualified members of the fed. No, we can't sacrifice any of our fake power and fake responsibility over a fake wrestling fed to anyone else, can we? I was shocked that Thugg managed to get on CC for a few weeks... but not shocked that you didn't go to any effort to replace him.

 

Speaking of not being shocked, why am I not surprized you act insulted at the fact we "set up our own matches" for the PPV? After all, that was only the whole fucking idea the fed was founded on. The booker, such as they are, is only supposed to get the cards up, with whatever matches we wanted. Whatever made sense for our storylines. Maybe something that would MAKE us pursue a storyline if we didn't have one. You couldn't even do that on time.

 

As far as keeping those storylines together... keeping them organized? I think you should talk to Thugg, Mark Stevens, and Xstacy about that, buddy.

 

In short, I think any of your complaints are completely unfounded crap, and our demands are reasonable. But oh well.

 

I will miss having you around, Stubby. You always came through when we needed a big PPV card. But you ARE an ignorant, selfish, concieted asshole. You didn't even take the tame to get involved in the commnunity of the fed, which is basically an OBLIGATION of the "head booker", and I think whoever your replacement is will be 100x better at whatever you do.

 

Good day, sir.

 

And good riddance to bad rubbish.

 

-Z

[Guest 5_moves_of_doom]

Shut your hole TNT...you're a fucking nobody who doesn't even participate anymore.

Woohoo! Stubby acknowledges my existance for the first time EVER!! Sure, he no-sold those THREE PM's that I sent him consecutively a few months ago requesting his stats... he no-sold all of my complaints on the boards... he even no-sells the fact that I've beaten ELM, and ELM's beaten him, so therefore I own him. But now, when it's too late to prove himself as someone who actually acknowledges the PEOPLE of the fed [you listen to our match requests, not our opinions, you fucknut] he decides to sell. Jesus.

[Guest BA_Baracus]

Wow...this is almost funny.

 

Here's these guys who did nothing but suck up, and make nice with me when I'm in charge, and as soon as I'm not it all "fuck you, we hate you".

 

What a bunch of cowards.

 

If I had, had some serious indication that you were all so disgruntled I would have made changes. By the silence and the polite PMs I kept getting from everyone the impression I got was that you were all fine with things.

 

Oh...and how did I insult the fact that you guys booked this card? I didn't at all, I just brought it up as a fact against your "Stubby never listens to any of us" crap.

 

"HOW many people offered to help you with booking, Stubby?"

 

By my count, I got one PM from Thugg offering to help with booking since we moved to these boards and I let him on CC until he quit.

 

"As far as keeping those storylines together... keeping them organized? I think you should talk to Thugg, Mark Stevens, and Xstacy about that, buddy."

 

Sorry...thank you Xstasy...what am I thanking them for again?

 

"I think whoever your replacement is will be 100x better at whatever you do."

 

Yeah I'm sure.

 

"And good riddance to bad rubbish."

 

Thanks. That made all my time I've spent worthwhile.

[Guest 5_moves_of_doom]

Here's these guys who did nothing but suck up, and make nice with me when I'm in charge, and as soon as I'm not it all "fuck you, we hate you".

 

What a bunch of cowards.

 

If I had, had some serious indication that you were all so disgruntled I would have made changes. By the silence and the polite PMs I kept getting from everyone the impression I got was that you were all fine with things.

We spoke out several times Stubbs, and you usually just locked the thread, or made a worthless "Opinions Thread" that you didn't even read. After a while we just went with the flow... I myself was polite because I'm usually a polite person, and I liked you up until a month or so ago.

 

You know, I read the Genesis II Comments thread today on the IGN boards... if anyone here DOUBTS that Stubby is a pompous, egotistical, power-hungry ass, read that. Really.

[Guest realitycheck]

We were polite and accomidating because we didn't think we could change anything. You try, you fail, you try, you fail, you try, you fail, you just get sick of trying.

 

Hell, I'm shocked that Thoth stepped up and took initiative... I thought the entire movement to get you out had ceased because we all knew it'd fail anway. Of course, Thoth always wanted total public backing BEFORE he de-modded you all the other times....

 

-Z

[Guest BA_Baracus]

I read the opinions thread...you never wrote anything in it.

 

If you still had problems you should have PMed me instead of concocting this two-faced scheme. And don't give me this "you wouldn't have read it" crap, because I would have.

 

Whatever. I see I was just wasting my time here. You have no appreciation for the work I put in, nor do you have enough respect for me as a person to believe I'm capable of having discussed this stuff with you in a intelligent manner.

 

Huh Z? When have you ever made any serious attempt to talk to me about what you want changed around here? Maybe you failed because from where I'm standing, you sure as hell weren't trying very hard...in fact you effort was so weak I didn't even know you had a problem.

 

Outside of the occansional "good card" I've never got a single thank you for keeping this place going, and instead all I get is a bunch of phony politeness and then treated like crap and insulted in the end...well great.

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

First of all, before anyone says anything to me about "Stay out of it", "You're not in the fed anymore", or "You're an evil waste of breath who sucks at every aspect of e-wrestling, including writing, grading, knowledge, and killing fake girlfriends", I'd like to state that I actually have a reason for posting here.

 

I was involved, with a few others who have posted on this thread, with the original conception of Stubby's faults as a booker. I was probably enough of an ass to everyone back then that folks only saw me as a catalyst; my points probably lost a lot of their value because of the fact that I lacked in credibility. First of all, I hope that with my silence (if not absence; I have been watching), these feelings of ill will have subsided. Second of all, I'm totally off topic because the original intent of this paragraph was not to bash myself (even though they all seem to turn out that way), but to elaborate on my original points.

 

1) Stubby's booking, while consistent and usually on time, has been slipping slowly for quite some time.

 

- Over the last year or so, there have been, admittedly, some amazing matches and cards in this federation. Some of the PPVs... have just been incredible. However, the primary reason for these amazing super-hyper awesome cards has usually been the WRITERS who have specifically angled these matches. If it wasn't for these specifically, predetermined matches, the cards would be rather empty. Beyond these angles, the cards have been rather mediocre.

 

You may ask, "How does that go back on Stubby? He isn't in charge of everyone!"

 

Calm down a sec, I'll get there.

 

2) Having a virtual dictatorship significantly deteriorates a roster's will to work creatively.

 

- This point has been brought up by several people. It is most obvious that a true council, where everyone has an equal vote, can never work in any situation. There needs to be a figurehead; else, everything will go to shit.

 

This does NOT mean someone needs to act as if everyone owes him something and quash any faint attempts at criticism.

 

The writers make this fed... and I will say that again. THE WRITERS MAKE THIS FED. One figurehead should never stand against the masses, even if it is 'for their own good'. If the writers want something, give it to them. If it fails, that should teach them a lesson... and that leader should have the skill to fix the errors they made. Most of all, the reason this is necessary is because this keeps the writers MOTIVATED... the tenets of "control your own destiny" has made this fed what it is for quite some time now, so let them truly control their own destiny.

 

3) A full booking and storyline committee needs to be established.

 

- One man cannot follow everything and help out with every person who appears to be lost. One man cannot write enough strats to make sure every potential matchup is hyped, even if the writers don't take the time to do so themselves. A committee can. A TRUE committee system has always been shot down.

 

Note that I am suggesting that those who do not have angles should be helped by a PRO-ACTIVE management to develop them. You want less no-shows? Do you want people to be motivated? GET THEM INVOLVED WITH OTHER PEOPLE.

 

 

 

These and other points were my main concerns way back when; not only have they not been addressed, they have become even larger problems as motivation wanes. This, for a supposedly infallable leader, is absolutely unacceptable.

 

I am not, and never have, suggested that Stubby be forced out on his ass with no thanks and appreciation. However, with regard to the first and second points, it has become painfully obvious that Stubby cannot do this himself. While specifically noting the second point, it becomes clear that we would much rather not have him as a "dictator."

 

Would I love to have him on staff? Hell yes. Stubby, you have proven to be undeniably loyal to this fed and nobody questions your work ethic. However, the changes that have been set out must be taken into account.

 

Take a role on staff; control a small aspect of the fed and allow someone else to have the top vote.

 

Do it or get out.

[Guest 5_moves_of_doom]

Whatever.  I see I was just wasting my time here.  You have no appreciation for the work I put in, nor do you have enough respect for me as a person to believe I'm capable of having discussed this stuff with you in a intelligent manner.

So uh, why are you sticking around as if you just *have* to reply to all of our thoughts? Jesus, just post a bitter retirement post, and be gone with ye, you uh, guy with the worst finisher of all time, you.

 

- Taylor "Tiredness Causes Me To Run Out of Insults, Argh" Thompson

 

Edit: Oh, and, I can think the link in your signature can show us all just what an "intelligent" human being you are.

[Guest Muzz]

Whatever.  I see I was just wasting my time here.  You have no appreciation for the work I put in, nor do you have enough respect for me as a person to believe I'm capable of having discussed this stuff with you in a intelligent manner.

 

Yeah?

 

I'd like to point out that your match is shit.

 

How many losses in a row is that now you worthless fuckwad?

 

Respect hasn't lived here for a long time Stubby.

 

I did make my objections known, I PM'ed you, but you ignored me.

 

I know you have put a lot of work into the fed, countless hours making cards and posting shows, but that doesn't give you the right to act like an absolute dick to people.

 

You can sound like a big man here, but I don't care, I lost respect for you when you gave me no respect. I've been here, in this fed for a Long Fucking Time, around the same as you, and the moment I stop having fun in the IGNWF or SWF was when you were put in charge.

 

I think I'll go... no wait, I'm still fucking livid about what you said to me. When was the last you wrote a match, or a promo? Planned a storyline? How old are you man? Does it make you feel good to piss on someone younger than you's work? You try writing for two years, not just making the cards then pissing of to leave us to our own devieces, and then complain when people start showing a lack of interest.

 

Have a merry christmas you criminal.

[Guest BA_Baracus]

I did make my objections known, I PM'ed you, but you ignored me.

 

That's not true at all...I read and responded to your PMs. Sorry...there's only so much I can do when you think your match should have won and it didn't...short of me retiring from booking, which I guess is what you wanted. Although I give you credit...you did make your objections clearly known, unlike everyone else. At least I knew you hated me.

 

And how have I shown a lack of respect for you?

 

The fact that I've pretty much constantly booked you as a high mid-card or main event guy despite the fact that you no-show frequently and often times seem to put little or no effort in?

 

How about that world title you won in a match I marked?

 

I mean geez...the horrible injustices I've commited against you are truly staggering. Perhaps I should have declared you "king Sacred" or maybe renamed it the "Sacred Wrestling Federation" since always going along with your storylines and putting you in a position to win multiple titles didn't quite seem to be enough to keep you satisfied.

[Guest Muzz]

You make it sound like I'm the only person who ever got a title shot. The reason I got a lot of title shots was because when your here for so long, you're bound to get one.

 

I'm really proud of no showing too, it gives me such joy to lose. I know I no-showed often, but it was in some very difficult times for me, like, these are some of the most important years of school I'll ever have, so forgive me for not making the SWF my #1 priority.

 

I mean geez...the horrible injustices I've commited against you are truly staggering. Perhaps I should have declared you "king Sacred" or maybe renamed it the "Sacred Wrestling Federation" since always going along with your storylines and putting you in a position to win multiple titles didn't quite seem to be enough to keep you satisfied.

 

The Sacred Wrestling Federation is a good name , I'll give you that. Of course you have done some good things, lots of good things, but you failed to give any nice words throughout your time here. Yeah, that might sounds stupid, but going along with storylines and giving out title shots to dedicated people are like, your job. Seeing what you wrote in the other thread to me was a real kick in the teeth, and made it seemed like you were thought I was crap my whole career. The best thing you could have done to help this fed grow and encourage people to write was for some nice words, that sort of thing means a lot to me, but because you didn't say anything, it seemed like you didn't care.

[Guest BA_Baracus]

Well I kind of assumed that we're all mature adults here (or semi-mature, near-adults) and that you didn't need me to play mommy and pat you all on the head and tell you how nice all your matches and promos were.

 

Sorry about what I said on the other thread...I opened that thread about 30 seconds after I read this one, so a vein had exploded on my forehead and I had just squeezed my stress ball to death. I'm pissed like fucking hell that you're involved in all this crap, but you can write a good match when you manage to get something in.

[Guest Muzz]

Playing 'Mommy and Daddy' wouldn't be giving a nice word here and there. I might be the only one in this boat, but a good comment from the people who mark the matches and make the decisions would go along way.

[Guest BA_Baracus]

Well...that's better.

 

At least I know I'm being ousted because I'm a smelly jerkface, and not for whatever other reasons. I'll go out how I came in.

 

*Note to self*...

 

If I ever try and run another e-fed, make sure to attend to the emotional needs of the Australian members...and make sure no-one has the ability to remove your modship.

[Guest Muzz]

I mean...who's behind this...Thoth, Sacred? Two fuckwits who no-show 2 or 3 times for every time you write? Whatever.

 

I missed that too. It'd be pretty ignorant of you to expect people to suibmit a match every show, when I know I have been burnt out for a while, but every time I came back to write I gave it my best, but sometimes I got swamped.

 

Don't call me a fuckwit either. I could go into the other reasons you were being ousted, but I thought that was pretty obvious, and other people could explain in in greater depth than I could.

[Guest Muzz]

And why do you have blow everything out of proportion. I asked for one or two nice words about a match or a promo, and then you go off about "making sure to attend to the emotional needs of the Australian members..."

 

It goes beyond this, you just didn't seem to care about the fed, and if you did you didn't make it known. I believe you screwed up some angles, forgot about people's match requests and so fourth. From where I saw it, you had lost the drive to be the commisioner.

 

I can't be bothered arguing anymore. You have faults, I have faults, whatever.

[Guest Grand Slam]

I probably shouldn't post here. I should keep my mouth shut and just let this little crisis, like all of the others, resolve itself. I should take the high road.

 

But I'm not. I'm about to rant here, so anyone uninterested in my opinion should just skip this post. If you are interested, read it carefully, it will be long-winded. Just a warning.

 

When I started here, Stubby was a controversial figure. All right, if honesty prevails, he was a huge pain in the rear end. But he was a pain I never had to deal with, so I ignored him.

 

Finally, I was bumped and because of an OOC flame war that erupted between the two of us, we were booked in a match by the then booker Drew (I think). I was always a little confused as to why we had this match as I was nowhere near Stubby on the card at the time, but I didn't argue. After all, I am a worker and the booker books, and I didn;t really have anything going on.

 

So I won the match, much to my amazement. I was shocked, and I prepared for the ultimate Stubby "roast the new guy" post. I waited... and waited... and finally he posted. He basically said it was a sneaky way to win (which it was) and he'd get me next time. That's it. Nothing more. Stubby gained a couple of points in my book then.

 

Fast forward a few months, and I read a post where Stubby was made booker and commissioner. I groaned. I bitched. I called King and we bitched and moaned together. Then something bizarre happened. Stubby turned into a really good booker. Hell, I don;t know how many storylines I ran by him and all were approved. He only bitched at me once, and that was when King and I dropped the ball on our sure-fire feud after I won the CF match and he won the title. And I deserved that.

 

When it came time for me to retire, I had to come up with some reason to have my last match against a face and who better to cause me problems than the man who cost me the title, Stubby P. McWeed? During the entire story, he never complained about what we did to him, and we responded by making him look good as often as possible.

 

So I retire. Things get alittle worse around here, in my opinion mostly due to no-showing and unmotivated writing. But hey, it happens. Happens all the time, everyone has a bad month or so where they either don't want to write or can't. Why do you think so many of us retire and come back? I hear about Stubby being ousted occasionally, but nothing ever comes of it.

 

Until now.

 

So... I'm out to dinner with some friends on Saturday, and we are waiting for our table when King turns to me and says, "So I got a PM from Thoth..." he layed out the story and told me what the plan was. Told me how he felt about it and what was probably going to happen. He told me about Thoth's de-modding plan and what he hoped to accomplish by it.

 

My response? "Well, that's not going to work. Stubby will be furious."

 

So I log on this morning, and this is the thread I see. I knew it was coming, i knew it was going to happen, and yet I was a little shocked to see it had happened.

 

So Stubby has been uncerimoniously ousted. After busting his ass for this fed a long, long time (which is a thankless job) he is out on his ass, and I seem to be the only person so far to mourn the loss.

 

I say this without qualification. Stubby kicked ass as a booker, at least while I was around, and I find it hard to believe that he made a 180 degree turn in the 8 months since then. In my expierience, when sent a well thought out storyline or angle, he responed with his concerns and objections. He tried to help make it better. And while I have never been his biggest fan as a person, I was a great fan as a booker. Am I sucking up? No, why would I? My responsibilities to this fed mean I never have to talk to the booker. Stubby worked hard and has been rewarded with a kick in the ass.

 

Do the writers run the fed? Yes, in most respects. There must be a guiding hand, an arbitrator that keeps the fed moving and tries to give a direction to both the fed as a whole and to people who don't have anything happening. The booker's responsibility is huge and the expectations are tremendous. And where is the thanks? Where is the pat on the back for a job well done? Where is any sense of appreciation for the work put into this fed? Nowhere I guess. And that is a shame.

 

Do I disagree with his ouster? Don't know. I'm not that involved anymore to know what has been happening and have an opinion one way or another. Do I have a problem with how he was ousted? I guess I do. I guess to me it just feels like he was forced out with no chance to apologize or change. Doesn't sit well with me.

 

Does this mean I have a problem with changing bookers? No, not at all. It has to happen once in a while. Do I have a problem with King as booker? Hell no, I think he will do a great job. Do I have a problem with Stubby? I hope not. Stubbs and I have had an uneasy truce for a while now. I just feel like maybe this was all unneccessary and a little bit of an overreaction. And I think it is a shame.

 

So... Stubby... thank you for all of the hard, thankless work for the fed. There have been a couple of really tough times in the last year, and the fact that we still exist is as much a testament to you as it is to the writers of this fed. You were our leader through the changeover from IGN (even though you were an Insider) and you have constantly pushed for improvements in the advertising for the fed and the quality of writing. I don't like you as a person, but nobody deserves to be dumped like you were. Hell, if Outcast and I can be civil to each other after that thread a while back, anybody can get along here.

 

To everyone else... let's get this little coup over with as soon as possible and get back to making the fed work. The only thing this is going to do is get the trickle of people we finally have coming to the sites and the boards to think twice about joining. I honestly could care less at this point as to why you kicked Stubby out, the deed is done. Let's get back to something resembling civility. I still think this fed has a lot of life left in it. Let's keep it moving.

 

One more thing. King, you should know this, but I state it publicly now. If you need help from and old retiree, you know my number. I never wanted to be in CC, so I never asked. But, as I have said before, I love this fed and I will do whatever I can to keep it going.

 

At least until the jackals turn on me...

[Guest BA_Baracus]

Thanks Mark.

 

You were always a good writer, who was never too demanding or had an inflated opinion of himself.

 

Plus after months of me bitching that we needed a website, you actually made one...now that's service.

[Guest El Luchadore Magnifico]

I want to echo Mark's sentiments here, although I won't be able to say it nearly as eloquently as he did.

 

Thank you, Stubby. Your hard work will not be forgotten, at least by me.

[Guest TheBostonStrangler]

Stubbs, I'm not quite sure how I feel about this. For a long time, I thought you were an egotistical jackass. I showed up in this fed when you and Merc were flaming the hell out of each other, and for a long time, I based my opinion of you solely on that. Eventually, I got to know you a little better. I respected your ability to write good matches that entertained me. But I never did respect you for the way you treated people. When you became head booker, I figured that would change. But it never really did. You remained fairly unyielding, and whenever you DID concede, you made it seem like you were bending over backwards to make us happy. Guess what, Stubby? That's what you should ALWAYS be doing. You book for people like us, and if we want something, we should damn well get it. When I retired, I was debating the logistics of sticking around. I never wanted to leave this place. But with the amount of work I had, it would have been hard. If you had considered moving the SWF to the 3 shows/2 weeks schedule like most of the fed wants, maybe I'd still be here. And maybe if you hadn't started fighting with Annie and LDP on the PPV card over their match stips, then maybe I'd still be here too. That was when I realized that you honestly didn't give two shits about how we felt, as long as you got the glory and the final call. Well, this time someone else got the final call.

 

Stubby, in all honesty, I wish it hadn't happened this way. You're one of the best the fed ever knew in the ring, and you were a pretty good booker at times (although being booked in FIVE STRAIGHT RANDOM TAG MATCHES kinda killed my desire). But you never listened to us, and now it's biting you on the ass. Hopefully you'll figure it out someday, come back, and accept a smaller role helping out around here. Until then, get out.

[Guest Insanityman]

Stubbs if you no sell this post because I'm a JL'er this would prove everything said against you. I've been in this federation for a damn long time and I have seen all the commishes in action. I give you so much credit for giving your time the whole time but now we need to change.

 

 

We've needed to change into a different comittee for ever Stubbs and I can remember certain people given PM's in whines and they were ignored. I never kissed your ass Stubbs because I never liked you, I respect you for a writer and a booker- but this is for the best. If you pull your head out of your ass and realize your not the God of an imaginary e-federation you'd see we need a new plan.

 

Thanks for what you have done but it's time to move on.

[Guest Coffin Surfer]

Well I have no idea what the hell is going on, but I don't think this is what the fed right needs now. That's just my opinion.

 

While Stubby's absolute power may have made me a bit uneasy at times, he always gave me the matches that I requested, and he's the only marker I never clashed with.

[Guest Ace309]

I am absolutely stunned and sickened at the amount of backstage politics that go into this e-fed.

 

That is all.